Route & track exchange
I have over 200 Coastal Explorer routes from Olympia north to the
Broughtons (to and from various destinations largely in the Salish Sea)
that I've accumulated over the years. (eg. Deer Harbor to Oak Harbor.) Am
willing to share with anyone. Average route size about 20KB, total folder
in which they are stored about 8 MB.
I find this subject very interesting. Though we all travel differently and
tracks are not completely usable by anyone else I believe it to be a time
tested method to get to a starting point.
Have you ever been to a boat show where they have seminars..say on cruising
the Bahamas. many times it is filled with... make sure you stay south of such
and such until passing such and such. Or the Explorer chart books and cruising
guides...with hand drawn maps and routes. I equate this method to the
typewriter, useful still but not modern. Well, I absolutely love Google Earth
and it has a feature to record tracks which are then sharable. I have searched
and found many tracks of places I wish to visit. They can be stored in either
.kmz or .kml format. When viewed on GE you can see exactly (to the accuracy of
their GPS) where they were. Gives a great starting point for your own trip
route. What I sometimes find more useful than the actual route though is it
location of the anchorages they used. Here is a link to one such example of a
.kmz file. Load it into GE and off you go on a very nice trip.
488121-paticat.kmz
I have been looking for a freebie GPS waypoint to kmz converter (or visa
versa) but have not come across it yet.
I also think the GPS (or PC) route sharing would be at least fun if not
useful.
Joel Wilkins
m/s Miss Magoo
Columbia 45
S. Pasadena, FL
--- On Thu, 11/19/09, Mel Kowal melkowal@cox.net wrote:
From: Mel Kowal melkowal@cox.net
Subject: T&T: Route & track exchange
To: "Trawler World List" trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 11:39 AM
I have over 200 Coastal Explorer routes from Olympia north to the Broughtons
(to and from various destinations largely in the Salish Sea) that I've
accumulated over the years. (eg. Deer Harbor to Oak Harbor.) Am willing to
share with anyone. Average route size about 20KB, total folder in which they
are stored about 8 MB.
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Joel Wilkins wrote:
<snip> Well, I absolutely love Google Earth
and it has a feature to record tracks which are then sharable. I have searched
and found many tracks of places I wish to visit. They can be stored in either
.kmz or .kml format. When viewed on GE you can see exactly (to the accuracy of
their GPS) where they were. Gives a great starting point for your own trip
route. What I sometimes find more useful than the actual route though is it
location of the anchorages they used. Here is a link to one such example of a
.kmz file. Load it into GE and off you go on a very nice trip.
Coastal Explorer will export a track or route to several different formats, with .kml and .gpx being two of them. AFAIK, Google Earth will read either, there is a site where one can upload a .gpx file and the site will convert it to a colored track line on a google map. It will also set different colors by date. It's fun to see the track on a large scale satellite image. I don't remember the site, but Googling geo-coding should return something close.
Steve Sipe
Solo 4303 "Maerin"
lying Thoroughfare Creek
Does anyone have any thoughts on using Polymer-Acrylic Resin Polish in lieu of
the normal stuff. It is produced by this company -
http://www.tech-products.comhttp://www.tech-products.com/. I attended a
demonstration and it seems much easier to use than the waxes I have used in
the past and of course, they claim it will last much longer. As I am always
looking for an easier way your comments would be appreciated.
Ron Nelson
Port Orchard, WA
-----Original Message-----
Does anyone have any thoughts on using Polymer-Acrylic Resin Polish in
lieu of
the normal stuff. ......
Ron,
I would keep that stuff as far away from my boat as I could!!!
There are a number of similar products on the market, and all are in essence
just acrylic floor 'polish' type products, that really are not polishing
anything, but rather laying a layer of a plastic acrylic coating on the
hull. It looks great when it first goes on, but as it ages, it the acrylic
coating looks like hell.
The PO of my boat had coated the hull with Poliglow, a similar product. By
the time I had the boat for a year, the acrylic surface was discoloring. It
was pretty awful looking. It took a LOT of manual labor the following spring
to remove all that junk from the hull. Then I used rubbing compound to bring
the gelcoat surface back, followed with several coast of a good wax. With
two coats of wax each year, it has remained looking OK since.
Kevin
On 1/9/2010 11:23 AM, Ron Nelson wrote:
Does anyone have any thoughts on using Polymer-Acrylic Resin Polish in lieu of
the normal stuff.
I have a thought on it,
DON'T
Whatever benefit you gain in ease of application will be eclipsed
several times over when you attempt to remove the gray-yellow
accumulation in 6-9 months. The vendor will tout how easy it is to renew
the surface, but you won't have to do that for a year, and it is so easy
to do you won't want to wait that long anyway.... and if you believe
all that, well then go ahead and try it, but remember you've been
forewarned! <G>
I used it on a boat I had years ago, unbelievably impossible to remove,
and like Kevin said, it looks like crap in about 3-6 months.
steve sipe
Solo 4303 "Maerin"
Daytona Beach ... where it snowed this morning... :-(
I have been using a polymer on our boat the last 4 years and get lots of
compliments. (Boat is just about to turn 20 yrs old)
I have never compounded...but...
The admiral/galley slave has just started using a porter cable polish kit
with the 3-M restorer product (this week). It has really improved the aft
deck and when she was done with that, I went over it with the polymer. Very
nice combination! We will continue to do the topsides, bit by bit. The
hull looks great and gets done about once a year or a little less with the
polymer.
The polymer I use is NuFinish...orange bottle...cheap...about $10 to do the
whole boat. It's called a once a year car polish...space age polymer....no
rubbing/no buffing. Do a small area at a time though! I've used this
product for about 20 years now, first on my fiberglass truck campers and now
on the boat. Have heard of others who've used on the boat too with
satisfaction.
While I've not used the Tech stuff, it looks similar and would be worth
trying.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Nelson" windmist@msn.com
To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:23 AM
Subject: T&T: Boat Polish
Does anyone have any thoughts on using Polymer-Acrylic Resin Polish in
lieu of
the normal stuff. It is produced by this company -
http://www.tech-products.comhttp://www.tech-products.com/. I attended
a
demonstration and it seems much easier to use than the waxes I have used
in
the past and of course, they claim it will last much longer. As I am
always
looking for an easier way your comments would be appreciated.
Ron Nelson
Port Orchard, WA
have not had this problem...maybe the acrylic stuff is a different
formulation from the NuFinish I recommended.
was the boat paint or gel coat?
DON'T
Whatever benefit you gain in ease of application will be eclipsed several
times over when you attempt to remove the gray-yellow accumulation in 6-9
months. The vendor will tout how easy it is to renew the surface, but you
won't have to do that for a year, and it is so easy to do you won't want
to wait that long anyway.... and if you believe all that, well then go
ahead and try it, but remember you've been forewarned! <G>
I used it on a boat I had years ago, unbelievably impossible to remove,
and like Kevin said, it looks like crap in about 3-6 months.
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Jim Quince vquince@comcast.net wrote:
have not had this problem...maybe the acrylic stuff is a different
formulation from the NuFinish I recommended.
Jim,
We have had the mixed experience that others are describing with acrylic
finishes. Looks great for a few months, then picks up dirt and requires
wiping with acetone to remove. What cleaning do you do during the year to
keep the NuFinish shine?
John
SeaWing
Deale MD/Beaufort NC
This is puzzling. I just don't seem to have had the problems others are
mentioning with the polymer. I have only used the one brand though....for
about 20 years on my RV's and now the boat.
We just do normal cleaning using a turtle wax type car wash. I will also
periodically clean some of black streaks off the canvas or fender type marks
that happen on the boat using the NuFinish as my cleaner. keeps it looking
great.
Ours has been a freshwater boat on the lakes and inland rivers.....I wonder if
the saltwater environment might have something to do with it. And as
mentioned before I think we are gelcoat but wonder if we might have some paint
too.
Side note:....the beaded water on the aft cabin is frozen this morning!
(Lemon Bay/Charlotte Harbor)
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Jim Quince vquince@comcast.net wrote:
have not had this problem...maybe the acrylic stuff is a different
formulation from the NuFinish I recommended.
Jim,
We have had the mixed experience that others are describing with acrylic
finishes. Looks great for a few months, then picks up dirt and requires
wiping with acetone to remove. What cleaning do you do during the year to
keep the NuFinish shine?
John
SeaWing
Deale MD/Beaufort NC