J
jon
Thu, Dec 16, 2021 3:04 PM
I use hair spray on my Prusa MK3S print bed both to increase adhesion
and to allow parts to separate (the hair spray is water soluble, so
worst case is that you let the water dissolve the hair spray)
On 12/16/2021 9:54 AM, nop head wrote:
I print PC on glass with glue stick to make it stick. I think it is
PETG that needs it more for release as it can stick too well.
I use hair spray on my Prusa MK3S print bed both to increase adhesion
and to allow parts to separate (the hair spray is water soluble, so
worst case is that you let the water dissolve the hair spray)
On 12/16/2021 9:54 AM, nop head wrote:
>
> I print PC on glass with glue stick to make it stick. I think it is
> PETG that needs it more for release as it can stick too well.
>
GH
gene heskett
Thu, Dec 16, 2021 3:15 PM
On Thursday, December 16, 2021 9:54:48 AM EST nop head wrote:
Yes, polypropylene and polycarbonate are completely different plastics. I
was replying to
I did buy a roll of PP but not even magigoo-pp will make it stick to the
Prusa bed, its loose by the time the brim is half done.
I print PC on glass with glue stick to make it stick. I think it is PETG
that needs it more for release as it can stick too well.
But I can't put glass on the prusa, its too thick for the inductive bed sensor
to work as it measures to the coated steel sheet.
Thanks nop-head.
[...]
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
On Thursday, December 16, 2021 9:54:48 AM EST nop head wrote:
> Yes, polypropylene and polycarbonate are completely different plastics. I
> was replying to
>
> > I did buy a roll of PP but not even magigoo-pp will make it stick to the
>
> Prusa bed, its loose by the time the brim is half done.
>
> I print PC on glass with glue stick to make it stick. I think it is PETG
> that needs it more for release as it can stick too well.
But I can't put glass on the prusa, its too thick for the inductive bed sensor
to work as it measures to the coated steel sheet.
Thanks nop-head.
[...]
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis
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NH
nop head
Thu, Dec 16, 2021 3:18 PM
Perhaps use a thin sheet of steel with PP film stuck to that then. It
doesn't really matter what is under the film. I just use glass because that
is what I normally print on because it is flat.
On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 at 15:16, gene heskett gheskett@shentel.net wrote:
On Thursday, December 16, 2021 9:54:48 AM EST nop head wrote:
Yes, polypropylene and polycarbonate are completely different plastics. I
was replying to
I did buy a roll of PP but not even magigoo-pp will make it stick to
Prusa bed, its loose by the time the brim is half done.
I print PC on glass with glue stick to make it stick. I think it is PETG
that needs it more for release as it can stick too well.
But I can't put glass on the prusa, its too thick for the inductive bed
sensor
to work as it measures to the coated steel sheet.
Thanks nop-head.
[...]
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
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Perhaps use a thin sheet of steel with PP film stuck to that then. It
doesn't really matter what is under the film. I just use glass because that
is what I normally print on because it is flat.
On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 at 15:16, gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, December 16, 2021 9:54:48 AM EST nop head wrote:
> > Yes, polypropylene and polycarbonate are completely different plastics. I
> > was replying to
> >
> > > I did buy a roll of PP but not even magigoo-pp will make it stick to
> the
> >
> > Prusa bed, its loose by the time the brim is half done.
> >
> > I print PC on glass with glue stick to make it stick. I think it is PETG
> > that needs it more for release as it can stick too well.
>
> But I can't put glass on the prusa, its too thick for the inductive bed
> sensor
> to work as it measures to the coated steel sheet.
> Thanks nop-head.
>
> [...]
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett.
> --
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
> - Louis D. Brandeis
> Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
>
>
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GH
gene heskett
Thu, Dec 16, 2021 3:27 PM
On Thursday, December 16, 2021 10:04:26 AM EST jon wrote:
I use hair spray on my Prusa MK3S print bed both to increase adhesion
and to allow parts to separate (the hair spray is water soluble, so
worst case is that you let the water dissolve the hair spray)
I raided the bathroom collection my departed wife left me with, but didn't find
anything that seemed to have adhesive qualities.
Does that stuff die in the can?
Some of it, she didn't seem to have a favorite, must have been 15+ years old.
On 12/16/2021 9:54 AM, nop head wrote:
I print PC on glass with glue stick to make it stick. I think it is
PETG that needs it more for release as it can stick too well.
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
On Thursday, December 16, 2021 10:04:26 AM EST jon wrote:
> I use hair spray on my Prusa MK3S print bed both to increase adhesion
> and to allow parts to separate (the hair spray is water soluble, so
> worst case is that you let the water dissolve the hair spray)
I raided the bathroom collection my departed wife left me with, but didn't find
anything that seemed to have adhesive qualities.
Does that stuff die in the can?
Some of it, she didn't seem to have a favorite, must have been 15+ years old.
> On 12/16/2021 9:54 AM, nop head wrote:
> > I print PC on glass with glue stick to make it stick. I think it is
> > PETG that needs it more for release as it can stick too well.
>
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> .
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis
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RW
Rogier Wolff
Thu, Dec 16, 2021 3:32 PM
On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 03:18:14PM +0000, nop head wrote:
Perhaps use a thin sheet of steel with PP film stuck to that
then. It doesn't really matter what is under the film. I just use
glass because that is what I normally print on because it is flat.
Thin sheets of stainless steel can be bought at PCB manufacturers like
JLCPCB, Elecrow or Allpcb. They call it "stencil", but with a bit of
prodding they will ship you 0.12 or 0.15mm thick steel sheets. (when
you order below 20x20cm JLC will change how they pack it and that
makes a big difference in shipping costs!). You'll have to add a note
that "no lasercut holes are necessary" otherwise they think you've
made a mistake. (still they think you're a fool, but at least you get
your stuff).
Roger.
On Thursday, December 16, 2021 9:54:48 AM EST nop head wrote:
Yes, polypropylene and polycarbonate are completely different plastics. I
was replying to
I did buy a roll of PP but not even magigoo-pp will make it stick to
Prusa bed, its loose by the time the brim is half done.
I print PC on glass with glue stick to make it stick. I think it is PETG
that needs it more for release as it can stick too well.
But I can't put glass on the prusa, its too thick for the inductive bed
sensor
to work as it measures to the coated steel sheet.
Thanks nop-head.
[...]
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
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** Delftechpark 11 2628 XJ Delft, The Netherlands. KVK: 27239233 **
f equals m times a. When your f is steady, and your m is going down
your a is going up. -- Chris Hadfield about flying up the space shuttle.
On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 03:18:14PM +0000, nop head wrote:
> Perhaps use a thin sheet of steel with PP film stuck to that
> then. It doesn't really matter what is under the film. I just use
> glass because that is what I normally print on because it is flat.
Thin sheets of stainless steel can be bought at PCB manufacturers like
JLCPCB, Elecrow or Allpcb. They call it "stencil", but with a bit of
prodding they will ship you 0.12 or 0.15mm thick steel sheets. (when
you order below 20x20cm JLC will change how they pack it and that
makes a big difference in shipping costs!). You'll have to add a note
that "no lasercut holes are necessary" otherwise they think you've
made a mistake. (still they think you're a fool, but at least you get
your stuff).
Roger.
>
> On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 at 15:16, gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, December 16, 2021 9:54:48 AM EST nop head wrote:
> > > Yes, polypropylene and polycarbonate are completely different plastics. I
> > > was replying to
> > >
> > > > I did buy a roll of PP but not even magigoo-pp will make it stick to
> > the
> > >
> > > Prusa bed, its loose by the time the brim is half done.
> > >
> > > I print PC on glass with glue stick to make it stick. I think it is PETG
> > > that needs it more for release as it can stick too well.
> >
> > But I can't put glass on the prusa, its too thick for the inductive bed
> > sensor
> > to work as it measures to the coated steel sheet.
> > Thanks nop-head.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett.
> > --
> > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
> > - Louis D. Brandeis
> > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
> >
> >
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> >
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f equals m times a. When your f is steady, and your m is going down
your a is going up. -- Chris Hadfield about flying up the space shuttle.
GH
gene heskett
Thu, Dec 16, 2021 3:47 PM
On Thursday, December 16, 2021 10:18:14 AM EST nop head wrote:
Perhaps use a thin sheet of steel with PP film stuck to that then. It
doesn't really matter what is under the film. I just use glass because that
is what I normally print on because it is flat.
I had adhesion probs with a creality ender 3, a 5 and a cr10 I finally solved
with a glass plate, ditto a CR10 pro V2 and its textured glass bed. I bought
but never got to try, something called PEI, 1mm thick if the film is stripped
from both sides, and they came with big sheets of 3M 468 sticky film.
Is any of that useful with PolyProp?
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
On Thursday, December 16, 2021 10:18:14 AM EST nop head wrote:
> Perhaps use a thin sheet of steel with PP film stuck to that then. It
> doesn't really matter what is under the film. I just use glass because that
> is what I normally print on because it is flat.
>
I had adhesion probs with a creality ender 3, a 5 and a cr10 I finally solved
with a glass plate, ditto a CR10 pro V2 and its textured glass bed. I bought
but never got to try, something called PEI, 1mm thick if the film is stripped
from both sides, and they came with big sheets of 3M 468 sticky film.
Is any of that useful with PolyProp?
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
J
jon
Thu, Dec 16, 2021 4:10 PM
I use Suave Extreme Hold UnScented in a red spray can.
On 12/16/2021 10:27 AM, gene heskett wrote:
On Thursday, December 16, 2021 10:04:26 AM EST jon wrote:
I use hair spray on my Prusa MK3S print bed both to increase adhesion
and to allow parts to separate (the hair spray is water soluble, so
worst case is that you let the water dissolve the hair spray)
I raided the bathroom collection my departed wife left me with, but didn't find
anything that seemed to have adhesive qualities.
Does that stuff die in the can?
Some of it, she didn't seem to have a favorite, must have been 15+ years old.
On 12/16/2021 9:54 AM, nop head wrote:
I print PC on glass with glue stick to make it stick. I think it is
PETG that needs it more for release as it can stick too well.
I use Suave Extreme Hold UnScented in a red spray can.
On 12/16/2021 10:27 AM, gene heskett wrote:
> On Thursday, December 16, 2021 10:04:26 AM EST jon wrote:
>> I use hair spray on my Prusa MK3S print bed both to increase adhesion
>> and to allow parts to separate (the hair spray is water soluble, so
>> worst case is that you let the water dissolve the hair spray)
> I raided the bathroom collection my departed wife left me with, but didn't find
> anything that seemed to have adhesive qualities.
>
> Does that stuff die in the can?
>
> Some of it, she didn't seem to have a favorite, must have been 15+ years old.
>
>> On 12/16/2021 9:54 AM, nop head wrote:
>>> I print PC on glass with glue stick to make it stick. I think it is
>>> PETG that needs it more for release as it can stick too well.
>>
NH
nop head
Thu, Dec 16, 2021 4:16 PM
PP doesn't stick to PEI, most other filaments do. It only sticks to itself
as far as I know.
The glue that comes on the back of the PP film must stick to it, so perhaps
if you coat your bed with that it will stick.
On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 at 16:11, jon jon@jonbondy.com wrote:
I use Suave Extreme Hold UnScented in a red spray can.
On 12/16/2021 10:27 AM, gene heskett wrote:
On Thursday, December 16, 2021 10:04:26 AM EST jon wrote:
I use hair spray on my Prusa MK3S print bed both to increase adhesion
and to allow parts to separate (the hair spray is water soluble, so
worst case is that you let the water dissolve the hair spray)
I raided the bathroom collection my departed wife left me with, but
anything that seemed to have adhesive qualities.
Does that stuff die in the can?
Some of it, she didn't seem to have a favorite, must have been 15+ years
On 12/16/2021 9:54 AM, nop head wrote:
I print PC on glass with glue stick to make it stick. I think it is
PETG that needs it more for release as it can stick too well.
PP doesn't stick to PEI, most other filaments do. It only sticks to itself
as far as I know.
The glue that comes on the back of the PP film must stick to it, so perhaps
if you coat your bed with that it will stick.
On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 at 16:11, jon <jon@jonbondy.com> wrote:
> I use Suave Extreme Hold UnScented in a red spray can.
>
>
> On 12/16/2021 10:27 AM, gene heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 16, 2021 10:04:26 AM EST jon wrote:
> >> I use hair spray on my Prusa MK3S print bed both to increase adhesion
> >> and to allow parts to separate (the hair spray is water soluble, so
> >> worst case is that you let the water dissolve the hair spray)
> > I raided the bathroom collection my departed wife left me with, but
> didn't find
> > anything that seemed to have adhesive qualities.
> >
> > Does that stuff die in the can?
> >
> > Some of it, she didn't seem to have a favorite, must have been 15+ years
> old.
> >
> >> On 12/16/2021 9:54 AM, nop head wrote:
> >>> I print PC on glass with glue stick to make it stick. I think it is
> >>> PETG that needs it more for release as it can stick too well.
> >>
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Rogier Wolff
Thu, Dec 16, 2021 5:11 PM
On 12/16/2021 10:27 AM, gene heskett wrote:
Some of it, she didn't seem to have a favorite, must have been 15+
years old.
... does it die in the can? ...
I bought stuff that is supposedly rebranded hairspray for 3D printing.
The first bottle I bought seems to have lost effectiveness. I'm on the
second can even though the first can seems to be ejecting something,
and is not yet empty. So my answer: Could be!
Roger.
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f equals m times a. When your f is steady, and your m is going down
your a is going up. -- Chris Hadfield about flying up the space shuttle.
On 12/16/2021 10:27 AM, gene heskett wrote:
> Some of it, she didn't seem to have a favorite, must have been 15+
> years old.
> ... does it die in the can? ...
I bought stuff that is supposedly rebranded hairspray for 3D printing.
The first bottle I bought seems to have lost effectiveness. I'm on the
second can even though the first can seems to be ejecting something,
and is not yet empty. So my answer: Could be!
Roger.
--
** R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl ** https://www.BitWizard.nl/ ** +31-15-2049110 **
** Delftechpark 11 2628 XJ Delft, The Netherlands. KVK: 27239233 **
f equals m times a. When your f is steady, and your m is going down
your a is going up. -- Chris Hadfield about flying up the space shuttle.
GH
gene heskett
Thu, Dec 16, 2021 6:11 PM
On Thursday, December 16, 2021 11:10:40 AM EST jon wrote:
I use Suave Extreme Hold UnScented in a red spray can.
You realize I hope, that by the time I get to CVS, or wallies, it will be New,
and Improved, and in a burgundy can? 😒 Marketing changes are at least monthly.
The product in the can, maybe 20 years.
I just found another, different can of aussie mousse I'll try when I get a
working printer again. Claims to be extra firm all day hold. If its got any
squirt left...
Thanks Jon.
On 12/16/2021 10:27 AM, gene heskett wrote:
On Thursday, December 16, 2021 10:04:26 AM EST jon wrote:
I use hair spray on my Prusa MK3S print bed both to increase adhesion
and to allow parts to separate (the hair spray is water soluble, so
worst case is that you let the water dissolve the hair spray)
I raided the bathroom collection my departed wife left me with, but didn't
find anything that seemed to have adhesive qualities.
Does that stuff die in the can?
Some of it, she didn't seem to have a favorite, must have been 15+ years
old.>
On 12/16/2021 9:54 AM, nop head wrote:
I print PC on glass with glue stick to make it stick. I think it is
PETG that needs it more for release as it can stick too well.
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
On Thursday, December 16, 2021 11:10:40 AM EST jon wrote:
> I use Suave Extreme Hold UnScented in a red spray can.
>
You realize I hope, that by the time I get to CVS, or wallies, it will be New,
and Improved, and in a burgundy can? 😒 Marketing changes are at least monthly.
The product in the can, maybe 20 years.
I just found another, different can of aussie mousse I'll try when I get a
working printer again. Claims to be extra firm all day hold. If its got any
squirt left...
Thanks Jon.
> On 12/16/2021 10:27 AM, gene heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 16, 2021 10:04:26 AM EST jon wrote:
> >> I use hair spray on my Prusa MK3S print bed both to increase adhesion
> >> and to allow parts to separate (the hair spray is water soluble, so
> >> worst case is that you let the water dissolve the hair spray)
> >
> > I raided the bathroom collection my departed wife left me with, but didn't
> > find anything that seemed to have adhesive qualities.
> >
> > Does that stuff die in the can?
> >
> > Some of it, she didn't seem to have a favorite, must have been 15+ years
> > old.>
> >> On 12/16/2021 9:54 AM, nop head wrote:
> >>> I print PC on glass with glue stick to make it stick. I think it is
> >>> PETG that needs it more for release as it can stick too well.
>
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Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis
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