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Tom Van Baak
Thu, Jan 31, 2008 9:55 PM

There are good clocks and bad clocks. Most need power, one
needs food, another runs all by itself.

Take a trip across 15 orders of magnitude of clock performance:

http://www.leapsecond.com/ten/

/tvb

There are good clocks and bad clocks. Most need power, one needs food, another runs all by itself. Take a trip across 15 orders of magnitude of clock performance: http://www.leapsecond.com/ten/ /tvb
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Scott Newell
Thu, Jan 31, 2008 10:20 PM

At 03:55 PM 1/31/2008, Tom Van Baak wrote:

Take a trip across 15 orders of magnitude of clock performance:

 http://www.leapsecond.com/ten/

Fun!  What piece of equipment is that Isotemp OCXO (page 28) used in?

--
newell  N5TNL

At 03:55 PM 1/31/2008, Tom Van Baak wrote: >Take a trip across 15 orders of magnitude of clock performance: > > http://www.leapsecond.com/ten/ Fun! What piece of equipment is that Isotemp OCXO (page 28) used in? -- newell N5TNL
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Sylvain RICHARD
Thu, Jan 31, 2008 10:27 PM

Tom Van Baak wrote:

There are good clocks and bad clocks. Most need power, one
needs food, another runs all by itself.

Take a trip across 15 orders of magnitude of clock performance:

 http://www.leapsecond.com/ten/

/tvb

I must say the drip clock was very nice.
Re the mains frequency, I believe it changes with the load on the grid.
Do you have a record of this?

Sylvain

Tom Van Baak wrote: > There are good clocks and bad clocks. Most need power, one > needs food, another runs all by itself. > > Take a trip across 15 orders of magnitude of clock performance: > > http://www.leapsecond.com/ten/ > > /tvb > I must say the drip clock was very nice. Re the mains frequency, I believe it changes with the load on the grid. Do you have a record of this? Sylvain
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Rob Kimberley
Thu, Jan 31, 2008 10:37 PM

There are good clocks and bad clocks. Most need power, one
needs food, another runs all by itself.

Take a trip across 15 orders of magnitude of clock performance:

Excellent stuff Tom!

Best Rgds

Rob K

> There are good clocks and bad clocks. Most need power, one > needs food, another runs all by itself. > > Take a trip across 15 orders of magnitude of clock performance: Excellent stuff Tom! Best Rgds Rob K
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John Ackermann N8UR
Thu, Jan 31, 2008 10:52 PM

Very cool, Tom!

John

Tom Van Baak said the following on 01/31/2008 04:55 PM:

There are good clocks and bad clocks. Most need power, one
needs food, another runs all by itself.

Take a trip across 15 orders of magnitude of clock performance:

 http://www.leapsecond.com/ten/

/tvb


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Very cool, Tom! John ---- Tom Van Baak said the following on 01/31/2008 04:55 PM: > There are good clocks and bad clocks. Most need power, one > needs food, another runs all by itself. > > Take a trip across 15 orders of magnitude of clock performance: > > http://www.leapsecond.com/ten/ > > /tvb > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > >
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Jeff Mock
Thu, Jan 31, 2008 11:07 PM

Very nice, it reminded me of a NYT article about a year ago that
describes "the long zoom" as one of the defining aspects of this generation:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/magazine/08games.html?ei=5090&en=d551133c9414ebbd&ex=1317960000&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all

jeff

John Ackermann N8UR wrote:

Very cool, Tom!

John

Tom Van Baak said the following on 01/31/2008 04:55 PM:

There are good clocks and bad clocks. Most need power, one
needs food, another runs all by itself.

Take a trip across 15 orders of magnitude of clock performance:

 http://www.leapsecond.com/ten/

/tvb


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Very nice, it reminded me of a NYT article about a year ago that describes "the long zoom" as one of the defining aspects of this generation: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/magazine/08games.html?ei=5090&en=d551133c9414ebbd&ex=1317960000&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all jeff John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > Very cool, Tom! > > John > ---- > > Tom Van Baak said the following on 01/31/2008 04:55 PM: >> There are good clocks and bad clocks. Most need power, one >> needs food, another runs all by itself. >> >> Take a trip across 15 orders of magnitude of clock performance: >> >> http://www.leapsecond.com/ten/ >> >> /tvb >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
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Nic McLean
Thu, Jan 31, 2008 11:24 PM

Hi all,
Can anybody lead me to information on the Tracor 895A Linear Phase / Time
Comparator? A simple google search doesn't turn up much.
Regards,
Nic

Hi all, Can anybody lead me to information on the Tracor 895A Linear Phase / Time Comparator? A simple google search doesn't turn up much. Regards, Nic
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michael taylor
Thu, Jan 31, 2008 11:37 PM

On Jan 31, 2008 5:27 PM, Sylvain RICHARD sr75pro@free.fr wrote:

Re the mains frequency, I believe it changes with the load on the grid.
Do you have a record of this?

I forget the reasoning for frequency variation, but it is load or
source related I believe. Part of the reason it

A project for a easy to build AC frequency measuring device:
http://www.sparetimegizmos.com/Hardware/AC_Monitor.htm

I could log the frequency deviations from my local AC mains if you
want some sample data.

On Jan 31, 2008 5:27 PM, Sylvain RICHARD <sr75pro@free.fr> wrote: > > > Re the mains frequency, I believe it changes with the load on the grid. > Do you have a record of this? I forget the reasoning for frequency variation, but it is load or source related I believe. Part of the reason it A project for a easy to build AC frequency measuring device: <http://www.sparetimegizmos.com/Hardware/AC_Monitor.htm> I could log the frequency deviations from my local AC mains if you want some sample data.
SR
Sylvain RICHARD
Fri, Feb 1, 2008 12:25 AM

michael taylor a écrit :

On Jan 31, 2008 5:27 PM, Sylvain RICHARD [1]sr75pro@free.fr wrote:

Re the mains frequency, I believe it changes with the load on the grid.
Do you have a record of this?

I forget the reasoning for frequency variation, but it is load or
source related I believe. Part of the reason it

It is a balance between production and grid load. In the European case,
the grids are phase synchronous over several countries. The (oldish)
data I have is

  • Nordel : Finland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark
  • Uktsoa :  UK.
  • Atsoi : Irland
  • Ucte : everybody else in Western Europe : Portugal, Spain, France,
    Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Italy,
    Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Hungary, Romania, ex-Yougoslavia
    During the 2006 blackout, the frequency went down by several hertz
    before some customers were disconnected ("load shedding"). The so
    familiar 50Hz line on VLF spectrograms took a dip.

A project for a easy to build AC frequency measuring device:
[2]http://www.sparetimegizmos.com/Hardware/AC_Monitor.htm

I could log the frequency deviations from my local AC mains if you
want some sample data.

This gadget looks nice, but I think I'll pass.
Good night
Sylvain

References

  1. mailto:sr75pro@free.fr
  2. http://www.sparetimegizmos.com/Hardware/AC_Monitor.htm
michael taylor a écrit : On Jan 31, 2008 5:27 PM, Sylvain RICHARD [1]<sr75pro@free.fr> wrote: Re the mains frequency, I believe it changes with the load on the grid. Do you have a record of this? I forget the reasoning for frequency variation, but it is load or source related I believe. Part of the reason it It is a balance between production and grid load. In the European case, the grids are phase synchronous over several countries. The (oldish) data I have is - Nordel : Finland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark - Uktsoa : UK. - Atsoi : Irland - Ucte : everybody else in Western Europe : Portugal, Spain, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Hungary, Romania, ex-Yougoslavia During the 2006 blackout, the frequency went down by several hertz before some customers were disconnected ("load shedding"). The so familiar 50Hz line on VLF spectrograms took a dip. A project for a easy to build AC frequency measuring device: [2]<http://www.sparetimegizmos.com/Hardware/AC_Monitor.htm> I could log the frequency deviations from my local AC mains if you want some sample data. This gadget looks nice, but I think I'll pass. Good night Sylvain References 1. mailto:sr75pro@free.fr 2. http://www.sparetimegizmos.com/Hardware/AC_Monitor.htm
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Alan Melia
Fri, Feb 1, 2008 12:35 AM

Hi Nic these are difficult to find for free but Ridge Electronics have one
for Tracor 895 at $20. I just got a Montronics Freq Diff meter manual from
them.

Alan G3NYK

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Hi all,
Can anybody lead me to information on the Tracor 895A Linear Phase / Time
Comparator? A simple google search doesn't turn up much.
Regards,
Nic


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Hi Nic these are difficult to find for free but Ridge Electronics have one for Tracor 895 at $20. I just got a Montronics Freq Diff meter manual from them. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nic McLean" <mcleann@bigpond.com> To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'" <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:24 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Tracor 895A > Hi all, > Can anybody lead me to information on the Tracor 895A Linear Phase / Time > Comparator? A simple google search doesn't turn up much. > Regards, > Nic > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.