Re: [CT Birds] Survival of Fork-tailed Flycatcher
But haven't we done that previously with late hummers ? Or am l mis- remembering?
Claudia longmore
Wethersfield
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Mark Szantyr birdinggeek@gmail.com wrote:
At the risk of sounding cold and heartless, that would be wrong to do. We should not interfere. If you think shooting snowy owls is wrong, catching flycatchers is sort of wrong too. I certainly understand the caring that is behind this feeling, but nature is " bloody in tooth and claw".
Mark
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We have and I believe that, in retrospect, we were likely wrong to do it.
It is always the best idea to honor the wisdom of the natural process.
It is very difficult to do this. I struggle with this with every winter
hummingbird I have the pleasure to see. I trust that the birds know best
how to be hummingbirds.
Mark
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Claudia cllongmore@cox.net wrote:
But haven't we done that previously with late hummers ? Or am l mis-
remembering?
Claudia longmore
Wethersfield
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
Mark Szantyr birdinggeek@gmail.com wrote:
At the risk of sounding cold and heartless, that would be wrong to do. We
should not interfere. If you think shooting snowy owls is wrong, catching
flycatchers is sort of wrong too. I certainly understand the caring that is
behind this feeling, but nature is " bloody in tooth and claw".
Mark
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I understand both viewpoints, but rehabbers do save owls, falcons, hawks, eagles, hummers, etc. How do we choose which ones to save (once they are obviously dying)?
On Dec 10, 2013, at 3:32 PM, "Mark Szantyr" birddog55@charter.net wrote:
We have and I believe that, in retrospect, we were likely wrong to do it.
It is always the best idea to honor the wisdom of the natural process.
It is very difficult to do this. I struggle with this with every winter
hummingbird I have the pleasure to see. I trust that the birds know best
how to be hummingbirds.
Mark
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Claudia cllongmore@cox.net wrote:
But haven't we done that previously with late hummers ? Or am l mis-
remembering?
Claudia longmore
Wethersfield
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
Mark Szantyr birdinggeek@gmail.com wrote:
At the risk of sounding cold and heartless, that would be wrong to do. We
should not interfere. If you think shooting snowy owls is wrong, catching
flycatchers is sort of wrong too. I certainly understand the caring that is
behind this feeling, but nature is " bloody in tooth and claw".
Mark
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" The Prime Directive dictates that there can be no interference with the
internal development of alien civilizations."
Anyone who is a fan of Star Trek will recognize "The Prime Directive."
We can carry this thought to birds rather than alien civilizations and
apply it to these winter hummingbirds, the Fork-tailed Flycatcher, the
Snowy Owls and any other species for that matter. I believe that "we" have
to trust that nature knows what she is doing. I believe that for "us" to
intervene on the behalf of individual birds who belong to species that
are otherwise stable and not in danger of extinction, discounts millions
and millions of years of evolution and natural selection.
I think that we have to resist the temptation to save everything because we
might not like the outcome.
Just my thoughts.
Chris Lovell
On Tuesday, December 10, 2013, Mark Szantyr wrote:
We have and I believe that, in retrospect, we were likely wrong to do it.
It is always the best idea to honor the wisdom of the natural process.
It is very difficult to do this. I struggle with this with every winter
hummingbird I have the pleasure to see. I trust that the birds know best
how to be hummingbirds.
Mark
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wrote:
But haven't we done that previously with late hummers ? Or am l mis-
remembering?
Claudia longmore
Wethersfield
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Mark Szantyr <birdinggeek@gmail.com javascript:;> wrote:
At the risk of sounding cold and heartless, that would be wrong to do.
We
should not interfere. If you think shooting snowy owls is wrong, catching
flycatchers is sort of wrong too. I certainly understand the caring that
is
behind this feeling, but nature is " bloody in tooth and claw".
Mark
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An injured or sick bird is one thing and an apparently healthy but off-course bird is another I'd say.
Patrick
Patrick M. Comins
Director of Bird Conservation
Audubon Connecticut
185 East Flat Hill Road
Southbury, CT 06488
Phone: (203)264-5098 x308
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I understand both viewpoints, but rehabbers do save owls, falcons, hawks, eagles, hummers, etc. How do we choose which ones to save (once they are obviously dying)?
On Dec 10, 2013, at 3:32 PM, "Mark Szantyr" birddog55@charter.net wrote:
We have and I believe that, in retrospect, we were likely wrong to do it.
It is always the best idea to honor the wisdom of the natural process.
It is very difficult to do this. I struggle with this with every winter
hummingbird I have the pleasure to see. I trust that the birds know best
how to be hummingbirds.
Mark
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Claudia cllongmore@cox.net wrote:
But haven't we done that previously with late hummers ? Or am l mis-
remembering?
Claudia longmore
Wethersfield
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
Mark Szantyr birdinggeek@gmail.com wrote:
At the risk of sounding cold and heartless, that would be wrong to do. We
should not interfere. If you think shooting snowy owls is wrong, catching
flycatchers is sort of wrong too. I certainly understand the caring that is
behind this feeling, but nature is " bloody in tooth and claw".
Mark
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We should let things be. Death is a very important part of it.
Mark
On Dec 10, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Dan Rottino rottino@hotmail.com wrote:
I understand both viewpoints, but rehabbers do save owls, falcons, hawks, eagles, hummers, etc. How do we choose which ones to save (once they are obviously dying)?
On Dec 10, 2013, at 3:32 PM, "Mark Szantyr" birddog55@charter.net wrote:
We have and I believe that, in retrospect, we were likely wrong to do it.
It is always the best idea to honor the wisdom of the natural process.
It is very difficult to do this. I struggle with this with every winter
hummingbird I have the pleasure to see. I trust that the birds know best
how to be hummingbirds.
Mark
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Claudia cllongmore@cox.net wrote:
But haven't we done that previously with late hummers ? Or am l mis-
remembering?
Claudia longmore
Wethersfield
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
Mark Szantyr birdinggeek@gmail.com wrote:
At the risk of sounding cold and heartless, that would be wrong to do. We
should not interfere. If you think shooting snowy owls is wrong, catching
flycatchers is sort of wrong too. I certainly understand the caring that is
behind this feeling, but nature is " bloody in tooth and claw".
Mark
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I agree with that!
I keep going back to something I have always believed and constantly
say, which was also reiterated by Dave Provencher the other day. "I
think it
is a mistake to try and interpret an animal's behavior using human logic or
human behavior patterns". Perfectly stated!
Just because we are cold doesn't mean the bird is! We look at the
perceived long migration route this bird has endured and will have to
repeat in reverse under harsher circumstances and our hearts sink. To
us we feel it can never be accomplished now because of the cold
weather. I say, why not? If there are poison ivy and other berries
here in CT, than I assume they are also on Long Island, and in New
Jersey, and Maryland, Virginia, Carolinas, etc! And the farther south
this bird travels, the potential for bug protein in its diet also
increases! I am not ready to throw in the towel just yet! In fact, I
am not the least bit concerned!
Call me a dreamer......but I am not the only one! :^)
Keith Mueller
Quoting "Comins, Patrick" PCOMINS@audubon.org:
An injured or sick bird is one thing and an apparently healthy but
off-course bird is another I'd say.
Patrick
Patrick M. Comins
Director of Bird Conservation
Audubon Connecticut
185 East Flat Hill Road
Southbury, CT 06488
Phone: (203)264-5098 x308
Fax: (203)264-6332
pcomins@audubon.org
http://iba.audubon.org/iba/viewState.do?state=US-CT
Audubon Connecticut is on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/AudubonCT
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Rottino rottino@hotmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:43 PM
To: ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Survival of Fork-tailed Flycatcher
I understand both viewpoints, but rehabbers do save owls, falcons,
hawks, eagles, hummers, etc. How do we choose which ones to save
(once they are obviously dying)?
On Dec 10, 2013, at 3:32 PM, "Mark Szantyr" birddog55@charter.net wrote:
We have and I believe that, in retrospect, we were likely wrong to do it.
It is always the best idea to honor the wisdom of the natural process.
It is very difficult to do this. I struggle with this with every winter
hummingbird I have the pleasure to see. I trust that the birds know best
how to be hummingbirds.
Mark
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Claudia cllongmore@cox.net wrote:
But haven't we done that previously with late hummers ? Or am l mis-
remembering?
Claudia longmore
Wethersfield
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
Mark Szantyr birdinggeek@gmail.com wrote:
At the risk of sounding cold and heartless, that would be wrong to do. We
should not interfere. If you think shooting snowy owls is wrong, catching
flycatchers is sort of wrong too. I certainly understand the caring that is
behind this feeling, but nature is " bloody in tooth and claw".
Mark
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I agree, Let the FTFly be as they are tough birds. Granted it's not the ideal situation right now and I think many of us knuckle bite with worry &
want to help somehow when these situations occur., when a bird seems to stay to long from our human perspective. I truly believe and have
been taught at an early age, by wise elders about the natural world., to just let nature take its course on how and what this bird or other species
will do. If the bird remains healthy, continues to eat and gets stronger, then it will depart when it needs to. Reality is, sometimes they don't make
it sadly, and we as humans have to except this fate as uncomfortable as it is. Lets think positive and be grateful so many of us have been able
to see this beautiful bird, The FTFLY.
Cheers,
Mardi Dickinson
http://kymrygroup.com/
On Dec 10, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Comins, Patrick wrote:
An injured or sick bird is one thing and an apparently healthy but off-course bird is another I'd say.
Patrick
Patrick M. Comins
Director of Bird Conservation
Audubon Connecticut
185 East Flat Hill Road
Southbury, CT 06488
Phone: (203)264-5098 x308
Fax: (203)264-6332
pcomins@audubon.org
http://iba.audubon.org/iba/viewState.do?state=US-CT
Audubon Connecticut is on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/AudubonCT
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From: CTBirds ctbirds-bounces@lists.ctbirding.org on behalf of Dan Rottino rottino@hotmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:43 PM
To: ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Survival of Fork-tailed Flycatcher
I understand both viewpoints, but rehabbers do save owls, falcons, hawks, eagles, hummers, etc. How do we choose which ones to save (once they are obviously dying)?
On Dec 10, 2013, at 3:32 PM, "Mark Szantyr" birddog55@charter.net wrote:
We have and I believe that, in retrospect, we were likely wrong to do it.
It is always the best idea to honor the wisdom of the natural process.
It is very difficult to do this. I struggle with this with every winter
hummingbird I have the pleasure to see. I trust that the birds know best
how to be hummingbirds.
Mark
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Claudia cllongmore@cox.net wrote:
But haven't we done that previously with late hummers ? Or am l mis-
remembering?
Claudia longmore
Wethersfield
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
Mark Szantyr birdinggeek@gmail.com wrote:
At the risk of sounding cold and heartless, that would be wrong to do. We
should not interfere. If you think shooting snowy owls is wrong, catching
flycatchers is sort of wrong too. I certainly understand the caring that is
behind this feeling, but nature is " bloody in tooth and claw".
Mark
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I did say if it was "obviously dying". I am a dreamer too. If its healthy, then leave it be. But if on the odd chance it were found near death, then...
It seems there is no clear line on which ones are de facto saved vs the ones that are not.
Dan
On Dec 10, 2013, at 4:23 PM, kmueller@ntplx.net wrote:
I agree with that!
I keep going back to something I have always believed and constantly say, which was also reiterated by Dave Provencher the other day. "I think it
is a mistake to try and interpret an animal's behavior using human logic or
human behavior patterns". Perfectly stated!
Just because we are cold doesn't mean the bird is! We look at the perceived long migration route this bird has endured and will have to repeat in reverse under harsher circumstances and our hearts sink. To us we feel it can never be accomplished now because of the cold weather. I say, why not? If there are poison ivy and other berries here in CT, than I assume they are also on Long Island, and in New Jersey, and Maryland, Virginia, Carolinas, etc! And the farther south this bird travels, the potential for bug protein in its diet also increases! I am not ready to throw in the towel just yet! In fact, I am not the least bit concerned!
Call me a dreamer......but I am not the only one! :^)
Keith Mueller
Quoting "Comins, Patrick" PCOMINS@audubon.org:
An injured or sick bird is one thing and an apparently healthy but off-course bird is another I'd say.
Patrick
Patrick M. Comins
Director of Bird Conservation
Audubon Connecticut
185 East Flat Hill Road
Southbury, CT 06488
Phone: (203)264-5098 x308
Fax: (203)264-6332
pcomins@audubon.org
http://iba.audubon.org/iba/viewState.do?state=US-CT
Audubon Connecticut is on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/AudubonCT
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From: CTBirds ctbirds-bounces@lists.ctbirding.org on behalf of Dan Rottino rottino@hotmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:43 PM
To: ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Survival of Fork-tailed Flycatcher
I understand both viewpoints, but rehabbers do save owls, falcons, hawks, eagles, hummers, etc. How do we choose which ones to save (once they are obviously dying)?
On Dec 10, 2013, at 3:32 PM, "Mark Szantyr" birddog55@charter.net wrote:
We have and I believe that, in retrospect, we were likely wrong to do it.
It is always the best idea to honor the wisdom of the natural process.
It is very difficult to do this. I struggle with this with every winter
hummingbird I have the pleasure to see. I trust that the birds know best
how to be hummingbirds.
Mark
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Claudia cllongmore@cox.net wrote:
But haven't we done that previously with late hummers ? Or am l mis-
remembering?
Claudia longmore
Wethersfield
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
Mark Szantyr birdinggeek@gmail.com wrote:
At the risk of sounding cold and heartless, that would be wrong to do. We
should not interfere. If you think shooting snowy owls is wrong, catching
flycatchers is sort of wrong too. I certainly understand the caring that is
behind this feeling, but nature is " bloody in tooth and claw".
Mark
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Well how do we know it's not dying. The only way to tell its condition would be to capture it, feel its keel and get a weight. I've held many skinny birds that look healthy even up close.
I say if its catchable catch it, bring it to a licensed rehabilitator and let them decide. It is legal to bring it to someone that is federally licensed.
Melissa Baston
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On Dec 10, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Dan Rottino rottino@hotmail.com wrote:
I did say if it was "obviously dying". I am a dreamer too. If its healthy, then leave it be. But if on the odd chance it were found near death, then...
It seems there is no clear line on which ones are de facto saved vs the ones that are not.
Dan
On Dec 10, 2013, at 4:23 PM, kmueller@ntplx.net wrote:
I agree with that!
I keep going back to something I have always believed and constantly say, which was also reiterated by Dave Provencher the other day. "I think it
is a mistake to try and interpret an animal's behavior using human logic or
human behavior patterns". Perfectly stated!
Just because we are cold doesn't mean the bird is! We look at the perceived long migration route this bird has endured and will have to repeat in reverse under harsher circumstances and our hearts sink. To us we feel it can never be accomplished now because of the cold weather. I say, why not? If there are poison ivy and other berries here in CT, than I assume they are also on Long Island, and in New Jersey, and Maryland, Virginia, Carolinas, etc! And the farther south this bird travels, the potential for bug protein in its diet also increases! I am not ready to throw in the towel just yet! In fact, I am not the least bit concerned!
Call me a dreamer......but I am not the only one! :^)
Keith Mueller