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JHWardJr@aol.com
Thu, Sep 10, 2009 6:29 PM

I want a cost effective means of connecting a regular household-type
extension cord to a 30 amp pedestal connection (like when I use my electric
pressure washer on the dock).  I know Hubbel (?) makes one, but  it's pricey.
See attached - is this the same connection (it's for an  RV)?  Thanks, Jim

_http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=65943&?utm
source=internet_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3709B&r=5793_153232
(http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=65943&?utm_s
ource=internet_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3709B&r=5793_153232)

I want a cost effective means of connecting a regular household-type extension cord to a 30 amp pedestal connection (like when I use my electric pressure washer on the dock). I know Hubbel (?) makes one, but it's pricey. See attached - is this the same connection (it's for an RV)? Thanks, Jim _http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=65943&?utm _source=internet_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3709B&r=5793_153232_ (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=65943&?utm_s ource=internet_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3709B&r=5793_153232)
PB
Peter Bennett
Thu, Sep 10, 2009 7:48 PM

I think RVs use a different connector than boats.

In any case, despite the description, from the picture I think that
adaptor goes the wrong way for what you want - I assume that it is
shown plugged into the power inlet on an RV, so it will be 30 amp
female to 15 amp male - to allow you to plug the RV into a standard
household outlet.  You need 30 amp male to 15 amp female.

Thursday, September 10, 2009, 11:29:48 AM, JHWardJr wrote:

Jac> I want a cost effective means of connecting a regular household-type
Jac> extension cord to a 30 amp pedestal connection (like when I use my electric
Jac> pressure washer on the dock).  I know Hubbel (?) makes one, but  it's pricey.
Jac> See attached - is this the same connection (it's for an  RV)?  Thanks, Jim
Jac>
Jac> _http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=65943&?utm
Jac> source=internet_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3709B&r=5793_153232
Jac> (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=65943&?utm_s
Jac> ource=internet_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3709B&r=5793_153232)

--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI    Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Ennos 31 "Honeycomb"
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

I think RVs use a different connector than boats. In any case, despite the description, from the picture I think that adaptor goes the wrong way for what you want - I assume that it is shown plugged into the power inlet on an RV, so it will be 30 amp female to 15 amp male - to allow you to plug the RV into a standard household outlet. You need 30 amp male to 15 amp female. Thursday, September 10, 2009, 11:29:48 AM, JHWardJr wrote: Jac> I want a cost effective means of connecting a regular household-type Jac> extension cord to a 30 amp pedestal connection (like when I use my electric Jac> pressure washer on the dock). I know Hubbel (?) makes one, but it's pricey. Jac> See attached - is this the same connection (it's for an RV)? Thanks, Jim Jac> Jac> _http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=65943&?utm Jac> _source=internet_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3709B&r=5793_153232_ Jac> (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=65943&?utm_s Jac> ource=internet_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3709B&r=5793_153232) -- Peter Bennett, VE7CEI Vancouver, B.C., Canada Ennos 31 "Honeycomb" GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca
PB
Peter Bennett
Thu, Sep 10, 2009 7:57 PM

I looked further, and found a 30 amp RV cable (item #66122-2VGA,
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=66122
) where you can see the RV "crowfoot" male connector - definitely not
the same as the marine connector!

Thursday, September 10, 2009, 12:48:42 PM, Peter wrote:

PB> I think RVs use a different connector than boats.

PB> In any case, despite the description, from the picture I think that
PB> adaptor goes the wrong way for what you want - I assume that it is
PB> shown plugged into the power inlet on an RV, so it will be 30 amp
PB> female to 15 amp male - to allow you to plug the RV into a standard
PB> household outlet.  You need 30 amp male to 15 amp female.

PB> Thursday, September 10, 2009, 11:29:48 AM, JHWardJr wrote:

Jac>> I want a cost effective means of connecting a regular household-type
Jac>> extension cord to a 30 amp pedestal connection (like when I use my electric
Jac>> pressure washer on the dock).  I know Hubbel (?) makes one, but  it's pricey.
Jac>> See attached - is this the same connection (it's for an  RV)?  Thanks, Jim
Jac>>
Jac>> _http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=65943&?utm
Jac>> source=internet_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3709B&r=5793_153232
Jac>> (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=65943&?utm_s
Jac>> ource=internet_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3709B&r=5793_153232)

--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI    Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Ennos 31 "Honeycomb"
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

I looked further, and found a 30 amp RV cable (item #66122-2VGA, http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=66122 ) where you can see the RV "crowfoot" male connector - definitely not the same as the marine connector! Thursday, September 10, 2009, 12:48:42 PM, Peter wrote: PB> I think RVs use a different connector than boats. PB> In any case, despite the description, from the picture I think that PB> adaptor goes the wrong way for what you want - I assume that it is PB> shown plugged into the power inlet on an RV, so it will be 30 amp PB> female to 15 amp male - to allow you to plug the RV into a standard PB> household outlet. You need 30 amp male to 15 amp female. PB> Thursday, September 10, 2009, 11:29:48 AM, JHWardJr wrote: Jac>> I want a cost effective means of connecting a regular household-type Jac>> extension cord to a 30 amp pedestal connection (like when I use my electric Jac>> pressure washer on the dock). I know Hubbel (?) makes one, but it's pricey. Jac>> See attached - is this the same connection (it's for an RV)? Thanks, Jim Jac>> Jac>> _http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=65943&?utm Jac>> _source=internet_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3709B&r=5793_153232_ Jac>> (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=65943&?utm_s Jac>> ource=internet_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3709B&r=5793_153232) -- Peter Bennett, VE7CEI Vancouver, B.C., Canada Ennos 31 "Honeycomb" GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca
RT
Rip Tyler
Thu, Sep 10, 2009 10:18 PM

" I want a cost effective means of connecting a regular household-type
extension cord to a 30 amp pedestal connection"

http://www.amazon.com/Conntek-Locking-Adapter-L5-30P-20R30126/dp/B001H9TSEW

Rip Tyler

m/v Severn Exposure
Pearson True North 38
Weems Creek, Annapolis, MD

" I want a cost effective means of connecting a regular household-type extension cord to a 30 amp pedestal connection" http://www.amazon.com/Conntek-Locking-Adapter-L5-30P-20R30126/dp/B001H9TSEW Rip Tyler m/v Severn Exposure Pearson True North 38 Weems Creek, Annapolis, MD
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2elnav@netbistro.com
Thu, Sep 10, 2009 11:55 PM

What is being asked for is inherently unsafe.
The whole concept of over current protection is to limit the current  to a
value less than what the wire can  stand up to. Therfore  a 15 A ampacity
cord plugged into a 30 amp outlet is NOT SAFE.  It will not be UL approved
and if a fire results your insurance company will laugh and walk away.

The chinese will sell you anything regardless of how unsafe it might be.
Note! they also sell fire works.

Buyer beware!

Arild

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rip Tyler" riptyler@verizon.net

" I want a cost effective means of connecting a regular household-type
extension cord to a 30 amp pedestal connection"

http://www.amazon.com/Conntek-Locking-Adapter-L5-30P-20R30126/dp/B001H9TSEW

Rip Tyler

What is being asked for is inherently unsafe. The whole concept of over current protection is to limit the current to a value less than what the wire can stand up to. Therfore a 15 A ampacity cord plugged into a 30 amp outlet is NOT SAFE. It will not be UL approved and if a fire results your insurance company will laugh and walk away. The chinese will sell you anything regardless of how unsafe it might be. Note! they also sell fire works. Buyer beware! Arild ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rip Tyler" <riptyler@verizon.net> >" I want a cost effective means of connecting a regular household-type > extension cord to a 30 amp pedestal connection" > > http://www.amazon.com/Conntek-Locking-Adapter-L5-30P-20R30126/dp/B001H9TSEW > > Rip Tyler
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Scott H.E. Welch
Fri, Sep 11, 2009 12:03 AM

What is being asked for is inherently unsafe.

Right on. That's exactly what I thought when I saw it.

You have two choices if you want to do this right:

Choice 1, the really good choice, it to go to Home Despot and buy a small
Square D breaker panel, some 10-3 flexible cable, a twist-lock connector,
some 15 amp breakers and a few duplex outlets. Bolt it all to a plywood
subpanel, wire it up with the #10 to the input of the breaker panel and the
duplex outlets fed through the 15 amp breakers and you have an instant source
of power on the dock.

Choice 2 is a bit cheekier, but it's what I did. Go to Home Despot and buy
the best power bar they have. Make sure it has a 15 amp breaker on the input.
Now snip the plug from the power bar and replace it with a 30A twist-lock
plug. Plug that into the dock and you have breaker-protected outlets. This is
slightly less safe, since you do still have a #16 cable being fed by a 30A
circuit, but in practice the 15A breaker in the power bar will protect you.

Scott Welch
Chief Evangelist, Open Text Social Media Group
www.opentext.com
905 762 6101

"Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn
out." - John Wooden

<2elnav@netbistro.com> writes: >What is being asked for is inherently unsafe. Right on. That's exactly what I thought when I saw it. You have two choices if you want to do this right: Choice 1, the really good choice, it to go to Home Despot and buy a small Square D breaker panel, some 10-3 flexible cable, a twist-lock connector, some 15 amp breakers and a few duplex outlets. Bolt it all to a plywood subpanel, wire it up with the #10 to the input of the breaker panel and the duplex outlets fed through the 15 amp breakers and you have an instant source of power on the dock. Choice 2 is a bit cheekier, but it's what I did. Go to Home Despot and buy the best power bar they have. Make sure it has a 15 amp breaker on the input. Now snip the plug from the power bar and replace it with a 30A twist-lock plug. Plug that into the dock and you have breaker-protected outlets. This is slightly less safe, since you do still have a #16 cable being fed by a 30A circuit, but in practice the 15A breaker in the power bar will protect you. Scott Welch Chief Evangelist, Open Text Social Media Group www.opentext.com 905 762 6101 "Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out." - John Wooden
PB
Peter Bennett
Fri, Sep 11, 2009 12:59 AM

Thursday, September 10, 2009, 4:55:25 PM, 2elnav wrote:

2nc> What is being asked for is inherently unsafe.
2nc> The whole concept of over current protection is to limit the current  to a
2nc> value less than what the wire can  stand up to. Therfore  a 15 A ampacity
2nc> cord plugged into a 30 amp outlet is NOT SAFE.  It will not be UL approved
2nc> and if a fire results your insurance company will laugh and walk away.

2nc> The chinese will sell you anything regardless of how unsafe it might be.
2nc> Note! they also sell fire works.

2nc> Buyer beware!

2nc> Arild

While I agree that the requested adaptor is illegal, immoral, and
probably fattening, it can be useful on occasion.  The user must, of
course, be aware that he should not draw more than 15 amps through it.

--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI    Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Ennos 31 "Honeycomb"
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

Thursday, September 10, 2009, 4:55:25 PM, 2elnav wrote: 2nc> What is being asked for is inherently unsafe. 2nc> The whole concept of over current protection is to limit the current to a 2nc> value less than what the wire can stand up to. Therfore a 15 A ampacity 2nc> cord plugged into a 30 amp outlet is NOT SAFE. It will not be UL approved 2nc> and if a fire results your insurance company will laugh and walk away. 2nc> The chinese will sell you anything regardless of how unsafe it might be. 2nc> Note! they also sell fire works. 2nc> Buyer beware! 2nc> Arild While I agree that the requested adaptor is illegal, immoral, and probably fattening, it can be useful on occasion. The user must, of course, be aware that he should not draw more than 15 amps through it. -- Peter Bennett, VE7CEI Vancouver, B.C., Canada Ennos 31 "Honeycomb" GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca
GH
Gregory Han
Fri, Sep 11, 2009 1:31 AM

Do not fail to use a GFI
Greg and Susan Han
Allegria -- Krogen Whaleback #16

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:29 PM,  JHWardJr@aol.com wrote:

I want a cost effective means of connecting a regular household-type
extension cord to a 30 amp pedestal connection (like when I use my electric
pressure washer on the dock).  I know Hubbel (?) makes one, but  it's

pricey.

See attached - is this the same connection (it's for an  RV)?  Thanks, Jim

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Do not fail to use a GFI Greg and Susan Han Allegria -- Krogen Whaleback #16 On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:29 PM, <JHWardJr@aol.com> wrote: > I want a cost effective means of connecting a regular household-type > extension cord to a 30 amp pedestal connection (like when I use my electric > pressure washer on the dock). I know Hubbel (?) makes one, but it's pricey. > See attached - is this the same connection (it's for an RV)? Thanks, Jim > > _http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=65943&?utm > _source=internet_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3709B&r=5793_153232_ > (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=65943&?utm_ s > ource=internet_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3709B&r=5793_153232) > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.
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Gregory Han
Fri, Sep 11, 2009 1:33 AM

Do not fail to use a GFI Outlet
The 30 a circuit is not GFI protected
Greg and Susan Han
Allegria -- Krogen Whaleback #16

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:29 PM,  JHWardJr@aol.com wrote:

I want a cost effective means of connecting a regular household-type
extension cord to a 30 amp pedestal connection (like when I use my electric
pressure washer on the dock).  I know Hubbel (?) makes one, but  it's

pricey.

See attached - is this the same connection (it's for an  RV)?  Thanks, Jim

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Do not fail to use a GFI Outlet The 30 a circuit is not GFI protected Greg and Susan Han Allegria -- Krogen Whaleback #16 On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:29 PM, <JHWardJr@aol.com> wrote: > I want a cost effective means of connecting a regular household-type > extension cord to a 30 amp pedestal connection (like when I use my electric > pressure washer on the dock). I know Hubbel (?) makes one, but it's pricey. > See attached - is this the same connection (it's for an RV)? Thanks, Jim > > _http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=65943&?utm > _source=internet_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3709B&r=5793_153232_ > (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=65943&?utm_ s > ource=internet_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3709B&r=5793_153232) > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.
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Keith
Fri, Sep 11, 2009 1:36 AM

These things are used all the time around here. Divers use them to plug
their compressors in dockside. The boat waxers use them to plug in their
buffers / polishers. I use mine (home-made from marine parts) to plug in my
shop fan and a couple of times a year, guitar amplifiers and PA systems.

Keith

How come it takes so little time for a child who is afraid of the dark to
become a teenager who wants to stay out all night?


-----Original Message-----

While I agree that the requested adaptor is illegal, immoral, and probably
fattening, it can be useful on occasion.  The user must, of course, be aware
that he should not draw more than 15 amps through it.

These things are used all the time around here. Divers use them to plug their compressors in dockside. The boat waxers use them to plug in their buffers / polishers. I use mine (home-made from marine parts) to plug in my shop fan and a couple of times a year, guitar amplifiers and PA systems. Keith How come it takes so little time for a child who is afraid of the dark to become a teenager who wants to stay out all night? _____ -----Original Message----- While I agree that the requested adaptor is illegal, immoral, and probably fattening, it can be useful on occasion. The user must, of course, be aware that he should not draw more than 15 amps through it.