Very good news today there is a long test running in the Western US and 3 sites are now active. Sites at Fallon, NV; George, WA; and Havre, MT are all up and running now. GRI is 5990. Not sure you’ll hear them so far away but thought I would let you know in case you see any skywave. At least two of these stations have significant power. Not sure on Havre MT. I will be firing up the receivers and seeing if I can hear anything here on the east coast. Also will leverage the various online SDRs to see what they hear. Just maybe we will have eLoran back as a frequency and time reference. Regards Paul WB8TSL

This is wonderful news! The reports from the Resilient Navigation and Timing Foundation (rntfnd.org) about how vulnerable our dependence on GPS makes us have been scaring me for several years. Especially since our three biggest enemies have working Loran systems (and at least two of them are pretty good at jamming GPS). Let’s hope that those who control the funding have finally gotten the message. Lynn N8AF / V31LK On Tue, 02 May 2023 at 8:16 PM, paul swed via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Very good news today there is a long test running in the Western US and 3 > sites are now active. > Sites at Fallon, NV; George, WA; and Havre, MT are all up and running now. > GRI is 5990. Not sure you’ll hear them so far away but thought I would let > you know in case you see any skywave. > At least two of these stations have significant power. Not sure on Havre > MT. > > I will be firing up the receivers and seeing if I can hear anything here on > the east coast. Also will leverage the various online SDRs to see what they > hear. > > Just maybe we will have eLoran back as a frequency and time reference. > Regards > Paul > WB8TSL > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com

Sort of doubt that. We work best when we are in trouble. But good to see a long test with 3 stations. Thats some power bill. Unfortunately I have no luck in hearing them and looking at online SDR are sites the eastern range is limited. That makes sense. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 7:52 PM Lynn Grant via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > This is wonderful news! The reports from the Resilient Navigation and > Timing Foundation (rntfnd.org) about how vulnerable our dependence on GPS > makes us have been scaring me for several years. Especially since our three > biggest enemies have working Loran systems (and at least two of them are > pretty good at jamming GPS). > > Let’s hope that those who control the funding have finally gotten the > message. > > Lynn N8AF / V31LK > > On Tue, 02 May 2023 at 8:16 PM, paul swed via time-nuts < > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > > Very good news today there is a long test running in the Western US and 3 > > sites are now active. > > Sites at Fallon, NV; George, WA; and Havre, MT are all up and running > now. > > GRI is 5990. Not sure you’ll hear them so far away but thought I would > let > > you know in case you see any skywave. > > At least two of these stations have significant power. Not sure on Havre > > MT. > > > > I will be firing up the receivers and seeing if I can hear anything here > on > > the east coast. Also will leverage the various online SDRs to see what > they > > hear. > > > > Just maybe we will have eLoran back as a frequency and time reference. > > Regards > > Paul > > WB8TSL > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com

Nothing at 5990 here in Western Montana. 03:30 UT Don On 2023-05-03 17:28, Lynn Grant via time-nuts wrote: > This is wonderful news! The reports from the Resilient Navigation and > Timing Foundation (rntfnd.org) about how vulnerable our dependence on > GPS > makes us have been scaring me for several years. Especially since our > three > biggest enemies have working Loran systems (and at least two of them > are > pretty good at jamming GPS). > > Let’s hope that those who control the funding have finally gotten the > message. > > Lynn N8AF / V31LK > > On Tue, 02 May 2023 at 8:16 PM, paul swed via time-nuts < > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > >> Very good news today there is a long test running in the Western US >> and 3 >> sites are now active. >> Sites at Fallon, NV; George, WA; and Havre, MT are all up and running >> now. >> GRI is 5990. Not sure you’ll hear them so far away but thought I would >> let >> you know in case you see any skywave. >> At least two of these stations have significant power. Not sure on >> Havre >> MT. >> >> I will be firing up the receivers and seeing if I can hear anything >> here on >> the east coast. Also will leverage the various online SDRs to see what >> they >> hear. >> >> Just maybe we will have eLoran back as a frequency and time reference. >> Regards >> Paul >> WB8TSL >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com ------------ "It's always something." Roseanne Rosannadanna ----------------------" Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL PO Box 404, Frenchtown, MT, 59834 VOX: 406-626-4304

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>But good to see a long test with 3 stations. Thats some power bill. Not really: http://phk.freebsd.dk/L9007M/dscf0458.jpg.html That is from LORSTA 9007M Eiđe -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.

Don thats really odd. I was using various SDR online sites to listen and Montana is on the air at least by ear. Or those sites are doing a good job of picking up the Wa and Nv sites. But it sure seemed like Mt was running. I did notice many of the online SDRs have very poor antennas at 100 KHz I assume/speculate. Amazingly your in Mt. Lucky you with a free Cs reference from eloran. When the East was running that actually was my goto reference even over GPS. Must be a strange trust thing I have. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 1:55 AM djl via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Nothing at 5990 here in Western Montana. 03:30 UT > Don > > On 2023-05-03 17:28, Lynn Grant via time-nuts wrote: > > This is wonderful news! The reports from the Resilient Navigation and > > Timing Foundation (rntfnd.org) about how vulnerable our dependence on > > GPS > > makes us have been scaring me for several years. Especially since our > > three > > biggest enemies have working Loran systems (and at least two of them > > are > > pretty good at jamming GPS). > > > > Let’s hope that those who control the funding have finally gotten the > > message. > > > > Lynn N8AF / V31LK > > > > On Tue, 02 May 2023 at 8:16 PM, paul swed via time-nuts < > > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > > >> Very good news today there is a long test running in the Western US > >> and 3 > >> sites are now active. > >> Sites at Fallon, NV; George, WA; and Havre, MT are all up and running > >> now. > >> GRI is 5990. Not sure you’ll hear them so far away but thought I would > >> let > >> you know in case you see any skywave. > >> At least two of these stations have significant power. Not sure on > >> Havre > >> MT. > >> > >> I will be firing up the receivers and seeing if I can hear anything > >> here on > >> the east coast. Also will leverage the various online SDRs to see what > >> they > >> hear. > >> > >> Just maybe we will have eLoran back as a frequency and time reference. > >> Regards > >> Paul > >> WB8TSL > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > >> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > > ------------ > "It's always something." > Roseanne Rosannadanna > ----------------------" > Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL > PO Box 404, Frenchtown, MT, 59834 > VOX: 406-626-4304 > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com

On 5/3/23 22:27, djl via time-nuts wrote: > Nothing at 5990 here in Western Montana. 03:30 UT > Don WWVB booming in here in central TX, but nothing at all on 100kHz. -- *Brian Lloyd * WB5BL - J79BL - NNA6BL 706 Flightline Spring Branch, TX 78070 brian@heaviside-hf.com <mailto://brian@heaviside-hf.com> +1.210.620.0011

Here's a screen grab from my Alberta KIWI last evening with the loran extension: [image: 2023-05-04 20_46_27.jpg] On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 6:54 AM paul swed via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Don thats really odd. > I was using various SDR online sites to listen and Montana is on the air at > least by ear. > Or those sites are doing a good job of picking up the Wa and Nv sites. But > it sure seemed like Mt was running. > I did notice many of the online SDRs have very poor antennas at 100 KHz I > assume/speculate. > Amazingly your in Mt. Lucky you with a free Cs reference from eloran. > When the East was running that actually was my goto reference even over > GPS. Must be a strange trust thing I have. > Regards > Paul > WB8TSL > > On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 1:55 AM djl via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > > wrote: > > > Nothing at 5990 here in Western Montana. 03:30 UT > > Don > > > > On 2023-05-03 17:28, Lynn Grant via time-nuts wrote: > > > This is wonderful news! The reports from the Resilient Navigation and > > > Timing Foundation (rntfnd.org) about how vulnerable our dependence on > > > GPS > > > makes us have been scaring me for several years. Especially since our > > > three > > > biggest enemies have working Loran systems (and at least two of them > > > are > > > pretty good at jamming GPS). > > > > > > Let’s hope that those who control the funding have finally gotten the > > > message. > > > > > > Lynn N8AF / V31LK > > > > > > On Tue, 02 May 2023 at 8:16 PM, paul swed via time-nuts < > > > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Very good news today there is a long test running in the Western US > > >> and 3 > > >> sites are now active. > > >> Sites at Fallon, NV; George, WA; and Havre, MT are all up and running > > >> now. > > >> GRI is 5990. Not sure you’ll hear them so far away but thought I would > > >> let > > >> you know in case you see any skywave. > > >> At least two of these stations have significant power. Not sure on > > >> Havre > > >> MT. > > >> > > >> I will be firing up the receivers and seeing if I can hear anything > > >> here on > > >> the east coast. Also will leverage the various online SDRs to see what > > >> they > > >> hear. > > >> > > >> Just maybe we will have eLoran back as a frequency and time reference. > > >> Regards > > >> Paul > > >> WB8TSL > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > >> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > > > > ------------ > > "It's always something." > > Roseanne Rosannadanna > > ----------------------" > > Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL > > PO Box 404, Frenchtown, MT, 59834 > > VOX: 406-626-4304 > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com

Don Moman VE6JY via time-nuts writes: > Here's a screen grab from my Alberta KIWI last evening with the loran > extension: Note that in general Loran-C propagates far better over water than over land. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.

Also, check at night.  Most of us will be in sky-wave territory which will be stronger at night. David N1HAC, looking from NH On 5/6/23 4:40 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp via time-nuts wrote: > Don Moman VE6JY via time-nuts writes: > >> Here's a screen grab from my Alberta KIWI last evening with the loran >> extension: > Note that in general Loran-C propagates far better over water than over land. >