CF
Cruising Fleet Racing
Thu, Jul 9, 2020 5:05 PM
Tony,
I totally agree with Lou. Major decisions are being made without consulting the Fleet. For example I just received an e-mail notifying me that I have been subscribed to the “NBC PHRF Racing Group”. WTF? I’m a member of the Cruising Fleet, I’m a member of the Open Fleet, and now I have to join a PHRF Racing Group too? This is getting ridiculous.
If we don’t have to pay Cruising Fleet dues this year, I don’t think we should have to renew our 2019 PHRF ratings if there have been no changes. However, I would like to continue supporting HRYRA.
Finally, there should be no Wednesday Night racing after Labor Day unless we can start earlier.
Lee
From: Louis Spitz [mailto:aronella@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:21 PM
To: Tony Martin (afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu)
Cc: aronella@gmail.com; Lee Luce; Carol Marsh
Subject: Re: Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
Hi Tony,
I was assuming that racing only Wed. nights at the club did not require a PHRF certificate. I have no intention of doing any racing this year, except for the Wed.night series. Do I need a certificate for just that? Also, the extension of the Wed. night series beyond the end of August might be illegal for 2 reasons:
-
Insurance: calls for racing substantially after dark
-
no representation (from me, at least) of changing the season from what had been a long tradition of ending racing the end of August. Where did this change come from, who inspired it,
how was it voted on?
I plan to go cruising the beginning of September, which would knock me out of the standings (if I happened to place, that is). I have always cruised at that time. That’s why I have a cruising boat!
For me, I even debated launching this season, much less race. I now feel o.k. with a crew of 4 or less, if I minimize time in the launch, and everyone wears masks, etc.
Don’t you think that some of these ‘rules’ will limit the number of folks who might otherwise want to race? There seems to be a dwindling of both spin and non-spin boats on the line.
Thanks,
Lou
On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Tony Martin afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu afmartin@mindspring.com wrote:
Hi Lou,
I don't see that Merry Chase has a valid 2020 HRYRA PHRF https://phrf.hryra.org/index.php?q=phrf/ratings -- a requirement to participate in the NBC races (see NoR/SI) and in our Wednesday Night Series (and other Cruising Fleet Series).
Under our 2020 Series Scoring rules, we recognize race results only if the lack of PHRF is cured within 7 days of the race -- that time limit has lapsed for last Wednesday. But, since we didn't notify you last week, when I sent results, you have until the start of next Wednesday's race (July 15) to remedy the situation. After that you'll be scored DNC in the series for any prior races.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks -- Tony Martin, Cruising Fleet Scoring
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Tony,
I totally agree with Lou. Major decisions are being made without consulting the Fleet. For example I just received an e-mail notifying me that I have been subscribed to the “NBC PHRF Racing Group”. WTF? I’m a member of the Cruising Fleet, I’m a member of the Open Fleet, and now I have to join a PHRF Racing Group too? This is getting ridiculous.
If we don’t have to pay Cruising Fleet dues this year, I don’t think we should have to renew our 2019 PHRF ratings if there have been no changes. However, I would like to continue supporting HRYRA.
Finally, there should be no Wednesday Night racing after Labor Day unless we can start earlier.
Lee
From: Louis Spitz [mailto:aronella@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:21 PM
To: Tony Martin (afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu)
Cc: aronella@gmail.com; Lee Luce; Carol Marsh
Subject: Re: Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
Hi Tony,
I was assuming that racing only Wed. nights at the club did not require a PHRF certificate. I have no intention of doing any racing this year, except for the Wed.night series. Do I need a certificate for just that? Also, the extension of the Wed. night series beyond the end of August might be illegal for 2 reasons:
1) Insurance: calls for racing substantially after dark
2) no representation (from me, at least) of changing the season from what had been a long tradition of ending racing the end of August. Where did this change come from, who inspired it,
how was it voted on?
I plan to go cruising the beginning of September, which would knock me out of the standings (if I happened to place, that is). I have always cruised at that time. That’s why I have a cruising boat!
For me, I even debated launching this season, much less race. I now feel o.k. with a crew of 4 or less, if I minimize time in the launch, and everyone wears masks, etc.
Don’t you think that some of these ‘rules’ will limit the number of folks who might otherwise want to race? There seems to be a dwindling of both spin and non-spin boats on the line.
Thanks,
Lou
On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Tony Martin afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu <afmartin@mindspring.com> wrote:
Hi Lou,
I don't see that Merry Chase has a valid 2020 HRYRA PHRF <https://phrf.hryra.org/index.php?q=phrf/ratings> -- a requirement to participate in the NBC races (see NoR/SI) and in our Wednesday Night Series (and other Cruising Fleet Series).
Under our 2020 Series Scoring rules, we recognize race results only if the lack of PHRF is cured within 7 days of the race -- that time limit has lapsed for last Wednesday. But, since we didn't notify you last week, when I sent results, you have until the start of next Wednesday's race (July 15) to remedy the situation. After that you'll be scored DNC in the series for any prior races.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks -- Tony Martin, Cruising Fleet Scoring
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Thu, Jul 9, 2020 6:42 PM
I too am a member of both fleets and prefer getting these emails once. So, great idea to create a combined email group for PHRF racing. I support it. Personally, I also would like the extended racing, early start or not. I can’t speak to everyone’s insurance. Mine covers me day or night. If I go cruising for a week, in my mind, that’s what the throw outs are for. Finally, I don’t appreciate getting club emails with foul language.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 9, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Cruising Fleet Racing wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org wrote:
Tony,
I totally agree with Lou. Major decisions are being made without consulting the Fleet. For example I just received an e-mail notifying me that I have been subscribed to the “NBC PHRF Racing Group”. WTF? I’m a member of the Cruising Fleet, I’m a member of the Open Fleet, and now I have to join a PHRF Racing Group too? This is getting ridiculous.
If we don’t have to pay Cruising Fleet dues this year, I don’t think we should have to renew our 2019 PHRF ratings if there have been no changes. However, I would like to continue supporting HRYRA.
Finally, there should be no Wednesday Night racing after Labor Day unless we can start earlier.
Lee
From: Louis Spitz [mailto:aronella@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:21 PM
To: Tony Martin (afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu)
Cc: aronella@gmail.com; Lee Luce; Carol Marsh
Subject: Re: Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
Hi Tony,
I was assuming that racing only Wed. nights at the club did not require a PHRF certificate. I have no intention of doing any racing this year, except for the Wed.night series. Do I need a certificate for just that? Also, the extension of the Wed. night series beyond the end of August might be illegal for 2 reasons:
- Insurance: calls for racing substantially after dark
- no representation (from me, at least) of changing the season from what had been a long tradition of ending racing the end of August. Where did this change come from, who inspired it,
how was it voted on?
I plan to go cruising the beginning of September, which would knock me out of the standings (if I happened to place, that is). I have always cruised at that time. That’s why I have a cruising boat!
For me, I even debated launching this season, much less race. I now feel o.k. with a crew of 4 or less, if I minimize time in the launch, and everyone wears masks, etc.
Don’t you think that some of these ‘rules’ will limit the number of folks who might otherwise want to race? There seems to be a dwindling of both spin and non-spin boats on the line.
Thanks,
Lou
On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Tony Martin afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu afmartin@mindspring.com wrote:
Hi Lou,
I don't see that Merry Chase has a valid 2020 HRYRA PHRF -- a requirement to participate in the NBC races (see NoR/SI) and in our Wednesday Night Series (and other Cruising Fleet Series).
Under our 2020 Series Scoring rules, we recognize race results only if the lack of PHRF is cured within 7 days of the race -- that time limit has lapsed for last Wednesday. But, since we didn't notify you last week, when I sent results, you have until the start of next Wednesday's race (July 15) to remedy the situation. After that you'll be scored DNC in the series for any prior races.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks -- Tony Martin, Cruising Fleet Scoring
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I too am a member of both fleets and prefer getting these emails once. So, great idea to create a combined email group for PHRF racing. I support it. Personally, I also would like the extended racing, early start or not. I can’t speak to everyone’s insurance. Mine covers me day or night. If I go cruising for a week, in my mind, that’s what the throw outs are for. Finally, I don’t appreciate getting club emails with foul language.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 9, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Cruising Fleet Racing <wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
>
>
> Tony,
> I totally agree with Lou. Major decisions are being made without consulting the Fleet. For example I just received an e-mail notifying me that I have been subscribed to the “NBC PHRF Racing Group”. WTF? I’m a member of the Cruising Fleet, I’m a member of the Open Fleet, and now I have to join a PHRF Racing Group too? This is getting ridiculous.
> If we don’t have to pay Cruising Fleet dues this year, I don’t think we should have to renew our 2019 PHRF ratings if there have been no changes. However, I would like to continue supporting HRYRA.
> Finally, there should be no Wednesday Night racing after Labor Day unless we can start earlier.
> Lee
>
>
> From: Louis Spitz [mailto:aronella@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:21 PM
> To: Tony Martin (afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu)
> Cc: aronella@gmail.com; Lee Luce; Carol Marsh
> Subject: Re: Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> I was assuming that racing only Wed. nights at the club did not require a PHRF certificate. I have no intention of doing any racing this year, except for the Wed.night series. Do I need a certificate for just that? Also, the extension of the Wed. night series beyond the end of August might be illegal for 2 reasons:
> 1) Insurance: calls for racing substantially after dark
> 2) no representation (from me, at least) of changing the season from what had been a long tradition of ending racing the end of August. Where did this change come from, who inspired it,
> how was it voted on?
>
> I plan to go cruising the beginning of September, which would knock me out of the standings (if I happened to place, that is). I have always cruised at that time. That’s why I have a cruising boat!
> For me, I even debated launching this season, much less race. I now feel o.k. with a crew of 4 or less, if I minimize time in the launch, and everyone wears masks, etc.
> Don’t you think that some of these ‘rules’ will limit the number of folks who might otherwise want to race? There seems to be a dwindling of both spin and non-spin boats on the line.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Tony Martin afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu <afmartin@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Lou,
> I don't see that Merry Chase has a valid 2020 HRYRA PHRF -- a requirement to participate in the NBC races (see NoR/SI) and in our Wednesday Night Series (and other Cruising Fleet Series).
>
> Under our 2020 Series Scoring rules, we recognize race results only if the lack of PHRF is cured within 7 days of the race -- that time limit has lapsed for last Wednesday. But, since we didn't notify you last week, when I sent results, you have until the start of next Wednesday's race (July 15) to remedy the situation. After that you'll be scored DNC in the series for any prior races.
>
> Let me know if you have any questions.
> Thanks -- Tony Martin, Cruising Fleet Scoring
>
>
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Cruising Fleet Racing
Thu, Jul 9, 2020 6:55 PM
Sorry I sent this email but forgot the sender did not show up on these emails. I wasn’t trying to stay anonymous.
Kaprel
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On Jul 9, 2020, at 2:43 PM, Cruising Fleet Racing wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org wrote:
I too am a member of both fleets and prefer getting these emails once. So, great idea to create a combined email group for PHRF racing. I support it. Personally, I also would like the extended racing, early start or not. I can’t speak to everyone’s insurance. Mine covers me day or night. If I go cruising for a week, in my mind, that’s what the throw outs are for. Finally, I don’t appreciate getting club emails with foul language.
Sent from my iPhone
Tony,
I totally agree with Lou. Major decisions are being made without consulting the Fleet. For example I just received an e-mail notifying me that I have been subscribed to the “NBC PHRF Racing Group”. WTF? I’m a member of the Cruising Fleet, I’m a member of the Open Fleet, and now I have to join a PHRF Racing Group too? This is getting ridiculous.
If we don’t have to pay Cruising Fleet dues this year, I don’t think we should have to renew our 2019 PHRF ratings if there have been no changes. However, I would like to continue supporting HRYRA.
Finally, there should be no Wednesday Night racing after Labor Day unless we can start earlier.
Lee
From: Louis Spitz [mailto:aronella@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:21 PM
To: Tony Martin (afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu)
Cc: aronella@gmail.com; Lee Luce; Carol Marsh
Subject: Re: Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
Hi Tony,
I was assuming that racing only Wed. nights at the club did not require a PHRF certificate. I have no intention of doing any racing this year, except for the Wed.night series. Do I need a certificate for just that? Also, the extension of the Wed. night series beyond the end of August might be illegal for 2 reasons:
- Insurance: calls for racing substantially after dark
- no representation (from me, at least) of changing the season from what had been a long tradition of ending racing the end of August. Where did this change come from, who inspired it,
how was it voted on?
I plan to go cruising the beginning of September, which would knock me out of the standings (if I happened to place, that is). I have always cruised at that time. That’s why I have a cruising boat!
For me, I even debated launching this season, much less race. I now feel o.k. with a crew of 4 or less, if I minimize time in the launch, and everyone wears masks, etc.
Don’t you think that some of these ‘rules’ will limit the number of folks who might otherwise want to race? There seems to be a dwindling of both spin and non-spin boats on the line.
Thanks,
Lou
On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Tony Martin afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu afmartin@mindspring.com wrote:
Hi Lou,
I don't see that Merry Chase has a valid 2020 HRYRA PHRF -- a requirement to participate in the NBC races (see NoR/SI) and in our Wednesday Night Series (and other Cruising Fleet Series).
Under our 2020 Series Scoring rules, we recognize race results only if the lack of PHRF is cured within 7 days of the race -- that time limit has lapsed for last Wednesday. But, since we didn't notify you last week, when I sent results, you have until the start of next Wednesday's race (July 15) to remedy the situation. After that you'll be scored DNC in the series for any prior races.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks -- Tony Martin, Cruising Fleet Scoring
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> On Jul 9, 2020, at 2:43 PM, Cruising Fleet Racing <wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
>
> I too am a member of both fleets and prefer getting these emails once. So, great idea to create a combined email group for PHRF racing. I support it. Personally, I also would like the extended racing, early start or not. I can’t speak to everyone’s insurance. Mine covers me day or night. If I go cruising for a week, in my mind, that’s what the throw outs are for. Finally, I don’t appreciate getting club emails with foul language.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>> On Jul 9, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Cruising Fleet Racing <wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
>>>
>>
>> Tony,
>> I totally agree with Lou. Major decisions are being made without consulting the Fleet. For example I just received an e-mail notifying me that I have been subscribed to the “NBC PHRF Racing Group”. WTF? I’m a member of the Cruising Fleet, I’m a member of the Open Fleet, and now I have to join a PHRF Racing Group too? This is getting ridiculous.
>> If we don’t have to pay Cruising Fleet dues this year, I don’t think we should have to renew our 2019 PHRF ratings if there have been no changes. However, I would like to continue supporting HRYRA.
>> Finally, there should be no Wednesday Night racing after Labor Day unless we can start earlier.
>> Lee
>>
>>
>> From: Louis Spitz [mailto:aronella@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:21 PM
>> To: Tony Martin (afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu)
>> Cc: aronella@gmail.com; Lee Luce; Carol Marsh
>> Subject: Re: Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> I was assuming that racing only Wed. nights at the club did not require a PHRF certificate. I have no intention of doing any racing this year, except for the Wed.night series. Do I need a certificate for just that? Also, the extension of the Wed. night series beyond the end of August might be illegal for 2 reasons:
>> 1) Insurance: calls for racing substantially after dark
>> 2) no representation (from me, at least) of changing the season from what had been a long tradition of ending racing the end of August. Where did this change come from, who inspired it,
>> how was it voted on?
>>
>> I plan to go cruising the beginning of September, which would knock me out of the standings (if I happened to place, that is). I have always cruised at that time. That’s why I have a cruising boat!
>> For me, I even debated launching this season, much less race. I now feel o.k. with a crew of 4 or less, if I minimize time in the launch, and everyone wears masks, etc.
>> Don’t you think that some of these ‘rules’ will limit the number of folks who might otherwise want to race? There seems to be a dwindling of both spin and non-spin boats on the line.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lou
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Tony Martin afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu <afmartin@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Lou,
>> I don't see that Merry Chase has a valid 2020 HRYRA PHRF -- a requirement to participate in the NBC races (see NoR/SI) and in our Wednesday Night Series (and other Cruising Fleet Series).
>>
>> Under our 2020 Series Scoring rules, we recognize race results only if the lack of PHRF is cured within 7 days of the race -- that time limit has lapsed for last Wednesday. But, since we didn't notify you last week, when I sent results, you have until the start of next Wednesday's race (July 15) to remedy the situation. After that you'll be scored DNC in the series for any prior races.
>>
>> Let me know if you have any questions.
>> Thanks -- Tony Martin, Cruising Fleet Scoring
>>
>>
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CF
Cruising Fleet Racing
Thu, Jul 9, 2020 6:58 PM
Hi Tony,
THIS IS FOR YOU AND CAROL ONLY
I think it is sad that everyone wants to weigh in on this. Especially since this is a short season.
You do this as volunteer and it is a lot of work that nobody else seems to want to do.
It annoys me how much everyone seems to want things that work to their advantage for scoring and trophies. I feel it is not in the spirit of good sportsmanship.
I have little to do with racing but wanted to express my thoughts on the extra work they would like to put you through.
Perhaps Carol should weigh in as Fleet Captain and email all racers with choices so the majority can decide OR let everyone know diplomatically that this is the way it is and if they want to run the scoring and do all the work, they should let you know.
Jeff
PS. Do u think we should have a full fleet zoom meeting in July?
On Jul 9, 2020, at 1305, Cruising Fleet Racing wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org wrote:
Tony,
I totally agree with Lou. Major decisions are being made without consulting the Fleet. For example I just received an e-mail notifying me that I have been subscribed to the “NBC PHRF Racing Group”. WTF? I’m a member of the Cruising Fleet, I’m a member of the Open Fleet, and now I have to join a PHRF Racing Group too? This is getting ridiculous.
If we don’t have to pay Cruising Fleet dues this year, I don’t think we should have to renew our 2019 PHRF ratings if there have been no changes. However, I would like to continue supporting HRYRA.
Finally, there should be no Wednesday Night racing after Labor Day unless we can start earlier.
Lee
From: Louis Spitz [mailto:aronella@gmail.com mailto:aronella@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:21 PM
To: Tony Martin (afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu mailto:afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu)
Cc: aronella@gmail.com mailto:aronella@gmail.com; Lee Luce; Carol Marsh
Subject: Re: Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
Hi Tony,
I was assuming that racing only Wed. nights at the club did not require a PHRF certificate. I have no intention of doing any racing this year, except for the Wed.night series. Do I need a certificate for just that? Also, the extension of the Wed. night series beyond the end of August might be illegal for 2 reasons:
- Insurance: calls for racing substantially after dark
- no representation (from me, at least) of changing the season from what had been a long tradition of ending racing the end of August. Where did this change come from, who inspired it,
how was it voted on?
I plan to go cruising the beginning of September, which would knock me out of the standings (if I happened to place, that is). I have always cruised at that time. That’s why I have a cruising boat!
For me, I even debated launching this season, much less race. I now feel o.k. with a crew of 4 or less, if I minimize time in the launch, and everyone wears masks, etc.
Don’t you think that some of these ‘rules’ will limit the number of folks who might otherwise want to race? There seems to be a dwindling of both spin and non-spin boats on the line.
Thanks,
Lou
On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Tony Martin afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu mailto:afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu <afmartin@mindspring.com mailto:afmartin@mindspring.com> wrote:
Hi Lou,
I don't see that Merry Chase has a valid 2020 HRYRA PHRF https://phrf.hryra.org/index.php?q=phrf/ratings -- a requirement to participate in the NBC races (see NoR/SI) and in our Wednesday Night Series (and other Cruising Fleet Series).
Under our 2020 Series Scoring rules, we recognize race results only if the lack of PHRF is cured within 7 days of the race -- that time limit has lapsed for last Wednesday. But, since we didn't notify you last week, when I sent results, you have until the start of next Wednesday's race (July 15) to remedy the situation. After that you'll be scored DNC in the series for any prior races.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks -- Tony Martin, Cruising Fleet Scoring
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Hi Tony,
THIS IS FOR YOU AND CAROL ONLY
I think it is sad that everyone wants to weigh in on this. Especially since this is a short season.
You do this as volunteer and it is a lot of work that nobody else seems to want to do.
It annoys me how much everyone seems to want things that work to their advantage for scoring and trophies. I feel it is not in the spirit of good sportsmanship.
I have little to do with racing but wanted to express my thoughts on the extra work they would like to put you through.
Perhaps Carol should weigh in as Fleet Captain and email all racers with choices so the majority can decide OR let everyone know diplomatically that this is the way it is and if they want to run the scoring and do all the work, they should let you know.
Jeff
PS. Do u think we should have a full fleet zoom meeting in July?
On Jul 9, 2020, at 1305, Cruising Fleet Racing <wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
Tony,
I totally agree with Lou. Major decisions are being made without consulting the Fleet. For example I just received an e-mail notifying me that I have been subscribed to the “NBC PHRF Racing Group”. WTF? I’m a member of the Cruising Fleet, I’m a member of the Open Fleet, and now I have to join a PHRF Racing Group too? This is getting ridiculous.
If we don’t have to pay Cruising Fleet dues this year, I don’t think we should have to renew our 2019 PHRF ratings if there have been no changes. However, I would like to continue supporting HRYRA.
Finally, there should be no Wednesday Night racing after Labor Day unless we can start earlier.
Lee
From: Louis Spitz [mailto:aronella@gmail.com <mailto:aronella@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:21 PM
To: Tony Martin (afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu <mailto:afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu>)
Cc: aronella@gmail.com <mailto:aronella@gmail.com>; Lee Luce; Carol Marsh
Subject: Re: Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
Hi Tony,
I was assuming that racing only Wed. nights at the club did not require a PHRF certificate. I have no intention of doing any racing this year, except for the Wed.night series. Do I need a certificate for just that? Also, the extension of the Wed. night series beyond the end of August might be illegal for 2 reasons:
1) Insurance: calls for racing substantially after dark
2) no representation (from me, at least) of changing the season from what had been a long tradition of ending racing the end of August. Where did this change come from, who inspired it,
how was it voted on?
I plan to go cruising the beginning of September, which would knock me out of the standings (if I happened to place, that is). I have always cruised at that time. That’s why I have a cruising boat!
For me, I even debated launching this season, much less race. I now feel o.k. with a crew of 4 or less, if I minimize time in the launch, and everyone wears masks, etc.
Don’t you think that some of these ‘rules’ will limit the number of folks who might otherwise want to race? There seems to be a dwindling of both spin and non-spin boats on the line.
Thanks,
Lou
On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Tony Martin afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu <mailto:afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu> <afmartin@mindspring.com <mailto:afmartin@mindspring.com>> wrote:
Hi Lou,
I don't see that Merry Chase has a valid 2020 HRYRA PHRF <https://phrf.hryra.org/index.php?q=phrf/ratings> -- a requirement to participate in the NBC races (see NoR/SI) and in our Wednesday Night Series (and other Cruising Fleet Series).
Under our 2020 Series Scoring rules, we recognize race results only if the lack of PHRF is cured within 7 days of the race -- that time limit has lapsed for last Wednesday. But, since we didn't notify you last week, when I sent results, you have until the start of next Wednesday's race (July 15) to remedy the situation. After that you'll be scored DNC in the series for any prior races.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks -- Tony Martin, Cruising Fleet Scoring
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Cruising Fleet Racing
Fri, Jul 10, 2020 5:04 PM
Right. Sorry about the language. Out of place.
Please sign your e-mail next time.
Lee
From: Wednightracing [mailto:wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org] On Behalf Of Cruising Fleet Racing
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:43 PM
To: wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org
Subject: Re: [CruisingFleetRacing] Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
I too am a member of both fleets and prefer getting these emails once. So, great idea to create a combined email group for PHRF racing. I support it. Personally, I also would like the extended racing, early start or not. I can’t speak to everyone’s insurance. Mine covers me day or night. If I go cruising for a week, in my mind, that’s what the throw outs are for. Finally, I don’t appreciate getting club emails with foul language.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 9, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Cruising Fleet Racing wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org wrote:
Tony,
I totally agree with Lou. Major decisions are being made without consulting the Fleet. For example I just received an e-mail notifying me that I have been subscribed to the “NBC PHRF Racing Group”. WTF? I’m a member of the Cruising Fleet, I’m a member of the Open Fleet, and now I have to join a PHRF Racing Group too? This is getting ridiculous.
If we don’t have to pay Cruising Fleet dues this year, I don’t think we should have to renew our 2019 PHRF ratings if there have been no changes. However, I would like to continue supporting HRYRA.
Finally, there should be no Wednesday Night racing after Labor Day unless we can start earlier.
Lee
From: Louis Spitz [mailto:aronella@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:21 PM
To: Tony Martin (afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu)
Cc: aronella@gmail.com; Lee Luce; Carol Marsh
Subject: Re: Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
Hi Tony,
I was assuming that racing only Wed. nights at the club did not require a PHRF certificate. I have no intention of doing any racing this year, except for the Wed.night series. Do I need a certificate for just that? Also, the extension of the Wed. night series beyond the end of August might be illegal for 2 reasons:
-
Insurance: calls for racing substantially after dark
-
no representation (from me, at least) of changing the season from what had been a long tradition of ending racing the end of August. Where did this change come from, who inspired it,
how was it voted on?
I plan to go cruising the beginning of September, which would knock me out of the standings (if I happened to place, that is). I have always cruised at that time. That’s why I have a cruising boat!
For me, I even debated launching this season, much less race. I now feel o.k. with a crew of 4 or less, if I minimize time in the launch, and everyone wears masks, etc.
Don’t you think that some of these ‘rules’ will limit the number of folks who might otherwise want to race? There seems to be a dwindling of both spin and non-spin boats on the line.
Thanks,
Lou
On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Tony Martin afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu afmartin@mindspring.com wrote:
Hi Lou,
I don't see that Merry Chase has a valid 2020 HRYRA PHRF https://phrf.hryra.org/index.php?q=phrf/ratings -- a requirement to participate in the NBC races (see NoR/SI) and in our Wednesday Night Series (and other Cruising Fleet Series).
Under our 2020 Series Scoring rules, we recognize race results only if the lack of PHRF is cured within 7 days of the race -- that time limit has lapsed for last Wednesday. But, since we didn't notify you last week, when I sent results, you have until the start of next Wednesday's race (July 15) to remedy the situation. After that you'll be scored DNC in the series for any prior races.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks -- Tony Martin, Cruising Fleet Scoring
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Please sign your e-mail next time.
Lee
From: Wednightracing [mailto:wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org] On Behalf Of Cruising Fleet Racing
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:43 PM
To: wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org
Subject: Re: [CruisingFleetRacing] Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
I too am a member of both fleets and prefer getting these emails once. So, great idea to create a combined email group for PHRF racing. I support it. Personally, I also would like the extended racing, early start or not. I can’t speak to everyone’s insurance. Mine covers me day or night. If I go cruising for a week, in my mind, that’s what the throw outs are for. Finally, I don’t appreciate getting club emails with foul language.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 9, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Cruising Fleet Racing <wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
Tony,
I totally agree with Lou. Major decisions are being made without consulting the Fleet. For example I just received an e-mail notifying me that I have been subscribed to the “NBC PHRF Racing Group”. WTF? I’m a member of the Cruising Fleet, I’m a member of the Open Fleet, and now I have to join a PHRF Racing Group too? This is getting ridiculous.
If we don’t have to pay Cruising Fleet dues this year, I don’t think we should have to renew our 2019 PHRF ratings if there have been no changes. However, I would like to continue supporting HRYRA.
Finally, there should be no Wednesday Night racing after Labor Day unless we can start earlier.
Lee
From: Louis Spitz [mailto:aronella@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:21 PM
To: Tony Martin (afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu)
Cc: aronella@gmail.com; Lee Luce; Carol Marsh
Subject: Re: Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
Hi Tony,
I was assuming that racing only Wed. nights at the club did not require a PHRF certificate. I have no intention of doing any racing this year, except for the Wed.night series. Do I need a certificate for just that? Also, the extension of the Wed. night series beyond the end of August might be illegal for 2 reasons:
1) Insurance: calls for racing substantially after dark
2) no representation (from me, at least) of changing the season from what had been a long tradition of ending racing the end of August. Where did this change come from, who inspired it,
how was it voted on?
I plan to go cruising the beginning of September, which would knock me out of the standings (if I happened to place, that is). I have always cruised at that time. That’s why I have a cruising boat!
For me, I even debated launching this season, much less race. I now feel o.k. with a crew of 4 or less, if I minimize time in the launch, and everyone wears masks, etc.
Don’t you think that some of these ‘rules’ will limit the number of folks who might otherwise want to race? There seems to be a dwindling of both spin and non-spin boats on the line.
Thanks,
Lou
On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Tony Martin afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu <afmartin@mindspring.com> wrote:
Hi Lou,
I don't see that Merry Chase has a valid 2020 HRYRA PHRF <https://phrf.hryra.org/index.php?q=phrf/ratings> -- a requirement to participate in the NBC races (see NoR/SI) and in our Wednesday Night Series (and other Cruising Fleet Series).
Under our 2020 Series Scoring rules, we recognize race results only if the lack of PHRF is cured within 7 days of the race -- that time limit has lapsed for last Wednesday. But, since we didn't notify you last week, when I sent results, you have until the start of next Wednesday's race (July 15) to remedy the situation. After that you'll be scored DNC in the series for any prior races.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks -- Tony Martin, Cruising Fleet Scoring
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Fri, Jul 10, 2020 5:12 PM
Right. Sorry about the language. Out of place.
Please sign your e-mail next time.
Lee
From: Wednightracing [mailto:
wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org] *On Behalf Of *Cruising
Fleet Racing
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:43 PM
To: wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org
Subject: Re: [CruisingFleetRacing] Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
I too am a member of both fleets and prefer getting these emails once. So,
great idea to create a combined email group for PHRF racing. I support it.
Personally, I also would like the extended racing, early start or not. I
can’t speak to everyone’s insurance. Mine covers me day or night. If I go
cruising for a week, in my mind, that’s what the throw outs are for.
Finally, I don’t appreciate getting club emails with foul language.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 9, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Cruising Fleet Racing <
wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
Tony,
I totally agree with Lou. Major decisions are being made without
consulting the Fleet. For example I just received an e-mail notifying me
that I have been subscribed to the “NBC PHRF Racing Group”. WTF? I’m a
member of the Cruising Fleet, I’m a member of the Open Fleet, and now I
have to join a PHRF Racing Group too? This is getting ridiculous.
If we don’t have to pay Cruising Fleet dues this year, I don’t think we
should have to renew our 2019 PHRF ratings if there have been no changes.
However, I would like to continue supporting HRYRA.
Finally, there should be no Wednesday Night racing after Labor Day unless
we can start earlier.
Lee
From: Louis Spitz [mailto:aronella@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:21 PM
To: Tony Martin (afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu)
Cc: aronella@gmail.com; Lee Luce; Carol Marsh
Subject: Re: Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
Hi Tony,
I was assuming that racing only Wed. nights at the club did not require a
PHRF certificate. I have no intention of doing any racing this year, except
for the Wed.night series. Do I need a certificate for just that? Also, the
extension of the Wed. night series beyond the end of August might be
illegal for 2 reasons:
-
Insurance: calls for racing substantially after dark
-
no representation (from me, at least) of changing the season from what
had been a long tradition of ending racing the end of August. Where did
this change come from, who inspired it,
how was it voted on?
I plan to go cruising the beginning of September, which would knock me out
of the standings (if I happened to place, that is). I have always cruised
at that time. That’s why I have a cruising boat!
For me, I even debated launching this season, much less race. I now feel
o.k. with a crew of 4 or less, if I minimize time in the launch, and
everyone wears masks, etc.
Don’t you think that some of these ‘rules’ will limit the number of folks
who might otherwise want to race? There seems to be a dwindling of both
spin and non-spin boats on the line.
Thanks,
Lou
On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Tony Martin afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu <
afmartin@mindspring.com> wrote:
Hi Lou,
I don't see that Merry Chase has a valid 2020 HRYRA PHRF
https://phrf.hryra.org/index.php?q=phrf/ratings -- a requirement to
participate in the NBC races (see NoR/SI) and in our Wednesday Night Series
(and other Cruising Fleet Series).
Under our 2020 Series Scoring rules, we recognize race results only if the
lack of PHRF is cured within 7 days of the race -- that time limit has
lapsed for last Wednesday. But, since we didn't notify you last week, when
I sent results, you have until the start of next Wednesday's race (July 15)
to remedy the situation. After that you'll be scored DNC in the series for
any prior races.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks -- Tony Martin, Cruising Fleet Scoring
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On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 1:05 PM Cruising Fleet Racing <
wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
> Right. Sorry about the language. Out of place.
>
> Please sign your e-mail next time.
>
> Lee
>
>
>
> *From:* Wednightracing [mailto:
> wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org] *On Behalf Of *Cruising
> Fleet Racing
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:43 PM
> *To:* wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org
> *Subject:* Re: [CruisingFleetRacing] Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
>
>
>
> I too am a member of both fleets and prefer getting these emails once. So,
> great idea to create a combined email group for PHRF racing. I support it.
> Personally, I also would like the extended racing, early start or not. I
> can’t speak to everyone’s insurance. Mine covers me day or night. If I go
> cruising for a week, in my mind, that’s what the throw outs are for.
> Finally, I don’t appreciate getting club emails with foul language.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Cruising Fleet Racing <
> wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> Tony,
>
> I totally agree with Lou. Major decisions are being made without
> consulting the Fleet. For example I just received an e-mail notifying me
> that I have been subscribed to the “NBC PHRF Racing Group”. WTF? I’m a
> member of the Cruising Fleet, I’m a member of the Open Fleet, and now I
> have to join a PHRF Racing Group too? This is getting ridiculous.
>
> If we don’t have to pay Cruising Fleet dues this year, I don’t think we
> should have to renew our 2019 PHRF ratings if there have been no changes.
> However, I would like to continue supporting HRYRA.
>
> Finally, there should be no Wednesday Night racing after Labor Day unless
> we can start earlier.
>
> Lee
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Louis Spitz [mailto:aronella@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:21 PM
> *To:* Tony Martin (afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu)
> *Cc:* aronella@gmail.com; Lee Luce; Carol Marsh
> *Subject:* Re: Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
>
>
>
> Hi Tony,
>
>
>
> I was assuming that racing only Wed. nights at the club did not require a
> PHRF certificate. I have no intention of doing any racing this year, except
> for the Wed.night series. Do I need a certificate for just that? Also, the
> extension of the Wed. night series beyond the end of August might be
> illegal for 2 reasons:
>
> 1) Insurance: calls for racing substantially after dark
>
> 2) no representation (from me, at least) of changing the season from what
> had been a long tradition of ending racing the end of August. Where did
> this change come from, who inspired it,
>
> how was it voted on?
>
>
>
> I plan to go cruising the beginning of September, which would knock me out
> of the standings (if I happened to place, that is). I have always cruised
> at that time. That’s why I have a cruising boat!
>
> For me, I even debated launching this season, much less race. I now feel
> o.k. with a crew of 4 or less, if I minimize time in the launch, and
> everyone wears masks, etc.
>
> Don’t you think that some of these ‘rules’ will limit the number of folks
> who might otherwise want to race? There seems to be a dwindling of both
> spin and non-spin boats on the line.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Lou
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Tony Martin afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu <
> afmartin@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Lou,
>
> I don't see that Merry Chase has a valid 2020 HRYRA PHRF
> <https://phrf.hryra.org/index.php?q=phrf/ratings> -- a requirement to
> participate in the NBC races (see NoR/SI) and in our Wednesday Night Series
> (and other Cruising Fleet Series).
>
>
>
> Under our 2020 Series Scoring rules, we recognize race results only if the
> lack of PHRF is cured within 7 days of the race -- that time limit has
> lapsed for last Wednesday. But, since we didn't notify you last week, when
> I sent results, you have until the start of next Wednesday's race (July 15)
> to remedy the situation. After that you'll be scored DNC in the series for
> any prior races.
>
>
>
> Let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Thanks -- Tony Martin, Cruising Fleet Scoring
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
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Fri, Jul 10, 2020 5:36 PM
At the bottom of every email people get on any of the club lists there is a
link to unsubscribe. Or you can ask your fleet list administrator.
Ken Kolkebeck
On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 1:13 PM Cruising Fleet Racing <
wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
Right. Sorry about the language. Out of place.
Please sign your e-mail next time.
Lee
From: Wednightracing [mailto:
wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org] *On Behalf Of *Cruising
Fleet Racing
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:43 PM
To: wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org
Subject: Re: [CruisingFleetRacing] Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
I too am a member of both fleets and prefer getting these emails once.
So, great idea to create a combined email group for PHRF racing. I support
it. Personally, I also would like the extended racing, early start or not.
I can’t speak to everyone’s insurance. Mine covers me day or night. If I go
cruising for a week, in my mind, that’s what the throw outs are for.
Finally, I don’t appreciate getting club emails with foul language.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 9, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Cruising Fleet Racing <
wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
Tony,
I totally agree with Lou. Major decisions are being made without
consulting the Fleet. For example I just received an e-mail notifying me
that I have been subscribed to the “NBC PHRF Racing Group”. WTF? I’m a
member of the Cruising Fleet, I’m a member of the Open Fleet, and now I
have to join a PHRF Racing Group too? This is getting ridiculous.
If we don’t have to pay Cruising Fleet dues this year, I don’t think we
should have to renew our 2019 PHRF ratings if there have been no changes.
However, I would like to continue supporting HRYRA.
Finally, there should be no Wednesday Night racing after Labor Day unless
we can start earlier.
Lee
From: Louis Spitz [mailto:aronella@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:21 PM
To: Tony Martin (afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu)
Cc: aronella@gmail.com; Lee Luce; Carol Marsh
Subject: Re: Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
Hi Tony,
I was assuming that racing only Wed. nights at the club did not require a
PHRF certificate. I have no intention of doing any racing this year, except
for the Wed.night series. Do I need a certificate for just that? Also, the
extension of the Wed. night series beyond the end of August might be
illegal for 2 reasons:
-
Insurance: calls for racing substantially after dark
-
no representation (from me, at least) of changing the season from
what had been a long tradition of ending racing the end of August. Where
did this change come from, who inspired it,
how was it voted on?
I plan to go cruising the beginning of September, which would knock me
out of the standings (if I happened to place, that is). I have always
cruised at that time. That’s why I have a cruising boat!
For me, I even debated launching this season, much less race. I now feel
o.k. with a crew of 4 or less, if I minimize time in the launch, and
everyone wears masks, etc.
Don’t you think that some of these ‘rules’ will limit the number of folks
who might otherwise want to race? There seems to be a dwindling of both
spin and non-spin boats on the line.
Thanks,
Lou
On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Tony Martin afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu <
afmartin@mindspring.com> wrote:
Hi Lou,
I don't see that Merry Chase has a valid 2020 HRYRA PHRF
https://phrf.hryra.org/index.php?q=phrf/ratings -- a requirement to
participate in the NBC races (see NoR/SI) and in our Wednesday Night Series
(and other Cruising Fleet Series).
Under our 2020 Series Scoring rules, we recognize race results only if
the lack of PHRF is cured within 7 days of the race -- that time limit has
lapsed for last Wednesday. But, since we didn't notify you last week, when
I sent results, you have until the start of next Wednesday's race (July 15)
to remedy the situation. After that you'll be scored DNC in the series for
any prior races.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks -- Tony Martin, Cruising Fleet Scoring
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On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 1:13 PM Cruising Fleet Racing <
wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
> Lee -- How do I get off this list?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Edward B. Claflin 128 High Avenue, Suite #2Nyack, NY 10960Cellphone:
> 845.216.9638Office: 845.358.1084ebclaflin@gmail.com <ebclaflin@gmail.com>*
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 1:05 PM Cruising Fleet Racing <
> wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
>
>> Right. Sorry about the language. Out of place.
>>
>> Please sign your e-mail next time.
>>
>> Lee
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Wednightracing [mailto:
>> wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org] *On Behalf Of *Cruising
>> Fleet Racing
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:43 PM
>> *To:* wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [CruisingFleetRacing] Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
>>
>>
>>
>> I too am a member of both fleets and prefer getting these emails once.
>> So, great idea to create a combined email group for PHRF racing. I support
>> it. Personally, I also would like the extended racing, early start or not.
>> I can’t speak to everyone’s insurance. Mine covers me day or night. If I go
>> cruising for a week, in my mind, that’s what the throw outs are for.
>> Finally, I don’t appreciate getting club emails with foul language.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Cruising Fleet Racing <
>> wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Tony,
>>
>> I totally agree with Lou. Major decisions are being made without
>> consulting the Fleet. For example I just received an e-mail notifying me
>> that I have been subscribed to the “NBC PHRF Racing Group”. WTF? I’m a
>> member of the Cruising Fleet, I’m a member of the Open Fleet, and now I
>> have to join a PHRF Racing Group too? This is getting ridiculous.
>>
>> If we don’t have to pay Cruising Fleet dues this year, I don’t think we
>> should have to renew our 2019 PHRF ratings if there have been no changes.
>> However, I would like to continue supporting HRYRA.
>>
>> Finally, there should be no Wednesday Night racing after Labor Day unless
>> we can start earlier.
>>
>> Lee
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Louis Spitz [mailto:aronella@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:21 PM
>> *To:* Tony Martin (afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu)
>> *Cc:* aronella@gmail.com; Lee Luce; Carol Marsh
>> *Subject:* Re: Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>>
>>
>> I was assuming that racing only Wed. nights at the club did not require a
>> PHRF certificate. I have no intention of doing any racing this year, except
>> for the Wed.night series. Do I need a certificate for just that? Also, the
>> extension of the Wed. night series beyond the end of August might be
>> illegal for 2 reasons:
>>
>> 1) Insurance: calls for racing substantially after dark
>>
>> 2) no representation (from me, at least) of changing the season from
>> what had been a long tradition of ending racing the end of August. Where
>> did this change come from, who inspired it,
>>
>> how was it voted on?
>>
>>
>>
>> I plan to go cruising the beginning of September, which would knock me
>> out of the standings (if I happened to place, that is). I have always
>> cruised at that time. That’s why I have a cruising boat!
>>
>> For me, I even debated launching this season, much less race. I now feel
>> o.k. with a crew of 4 or less, if I minimize time in the launch, and
>> everyone wears masks, etc.
>>
>> Don’t you think that some of these ‘rules’ will limit the number of folks
>> who might otherwise want to race? There seems to be a dwindling of both
>> spin and non-spin boats on the line.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Lou
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Tony Martin afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu <
>> afmartin@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Lou,
>>
>> I don't see that Merry Chase has a valid 2020 HRYRA PHRF
>> <https://phrf.hryra.org/index.php?q=phrf/ratings> -- a requirement to
>> participate in the NBC races (see NoR/SI) and in our Wednesday Night Series
>> (and other Cruising Fleet Series).
>>
>>
>>
>> Under our 2020 Series Scoring rules, we recognize race results only if
>> the lack of PHRF is cured within 7 days of the race -- that time limit has
>> lapsed for last Wednesday. But, since we didn't notify you last week, when
>> I sent results, you have until the start of next Wednesday's race (July 15)
>> to remedy the situation. After that you'll be scored DNC in the series for
>> any prior races.
>>
>>
>>
>> Let me know if you have any questions.
>>
>> Thanks -- Tony Martin, Cruising Fleet Scoring
>>
>>
>>
>>
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You are unsubscribed from the Cruising fleet e-mail list.
You should have gotten a notification if the system is working correctly.
Lee
From: Wednightracing [mailto:wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org] On Behalf Of Cruising Fleet Racing
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 1:12 PM
To: wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org
Subject: Re: [CruisingFleetRacing] Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
Lee -- How do I get off this list?
Edward B. Claflin
128 High Avenue, Suite #2
Nyack, NY 10960
Cellphone: 845.216.9638
Office: 845.358.1084
ebclaflin@gmail.com
On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 1:05 PM Cruising Fleet Racing wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org wrote:
Right. Sorry about the language. Out of place.
Please sign your e-mail next time.
Lee
From: Wednightracing [mailto:wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org] On Behalf Of Cruising Fleet Racing
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:43 PM
To: wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org
Subject: Re: [CruisingFleetRacing] Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
I too am a member of both fleets and prefer getting these emails once. So, great idea to create a combined email group for PHRF racing. I support it. Personally, I also would like the extended racing, early start or not. I can’t speak to everyone’s insurance. Mine covers me day or night. If I go cruising for a week, in my mind, that’s what the throw outs are for. Finally, I don’t appreciate getting club emails with foul language.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 9, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Cruising Fleet Racing wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org wrote:
Tony,
I totally agree with Lou. Major decisions are being made without consulting the Fleet. For example I just received an e-mail notifying me that I have been subscribed to the “NBC PHRF Racing Group”. WTF? I’m a member of the Cruising Fleet, I’m a member of the Open Fleet, and now I have to join a PHRF Racing Group too? This is getting ridiculous.
If we don’t have to pay Cruising Fleet dues this year, I don’t think we should have to renew our 2019 PHRF ratings if there have been no changes. However, I would like to continue supporting HRYRA.
Finally, there should be no Wednesday Night racing after Labor Day unless we can start earlier.
Lee
From: Louis Spitz [mailto:aronella@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:21 PM
To: Tony Martin (afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu)
Cc: aronella@gmail.com; Lee Luce; Carol Marsh
Subject: Re: Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
Hi Tony,
I was assuming that racing only Wed. nights at the club did not require a PHRF certificate. I have no intention of doing any racing this year, except for the Wed.night series. Do I need a certificate for just that? Also, the extension of the Wed. night series beyond the end of August might be illegal for 2 reasons:
-
Insurance: calls for racing substantially after dark
-
no representation (from me, at least) of changing the season from what had been a long tradition of ending racing the end of August. Where did this change come from, who inspired it,
how was it voted on?
I plan to go cruising the beginning of September, which would knock me out of the standings (if I happened to place, that is). I have always cruised at that time. That’s why I have a cruising boat!
For me, I even debated launching this season, much less race. I now feel o.k. with a crew of 4 or less, if I minimize time in the launch, and everyone wears masks, etc.
Don’t you think that some of these ‘rules’ will limit the number of folks who might otherwise want to race? There seems to be a dwindling of both spin and non-spin boats on the line.
Thanks,
Lou
On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Tony Martin afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu afmartin@mindspring.com wrote:
Hi Lou,
I don't see that Merry Chase has a valid 2020 HRYRA PHRF https://phrf.hryra.org/index.php?q=phrf/ratings -- a requirement to participate in the NBC races (see NoR/SI) and in our Wednesday Night Series (and other Cruising Fleet Series).
Under our 2020 Series Scoring rules, we recognize race results only if the lack of PHRF is cured within 7 days of the race -- that time limit has lapsed for last Wednesday. But, since we didn't notify you last week, when I sent results, you have until the start of next Wednesday's race (July 15) to remedy the situation. After that you'll be scored DNC in the series for any prior races.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks -- Tony Martin, Cruising Fleet Scoring
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You should have gotten a notification if the system is working correctly.
Lee
From: Wednightracing [mailto:wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org] On Behalf Of Cruising Fleet Racing
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 1:12 PM
To: wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org
Subject: Re: [CruisingFleetRacing] Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
Lee -- How do I get off this list?
Edward B. Claflin
128 High Avenue, Suite #2
Nyack, NY 10960
Cellphone: 845.216.9638
Office: 845.358.1084
ebclaflin@gmail.com
On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 1:05 PM Cruising Fleet Racing <wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
Right. Sorry about the language. Out of place.
Please sign your e-mail next time.
Lee
From: Wednightracing [mailto:wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org] On Behalf Of Cruising Fleet Racing
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:43 PM
To: wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org
Subject: Re: [CruisingFleetRacing] Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
I too am a member of both fleets and prefer getting these emails once. So, great idea to create a combined email group for PHRF racing. I support it. Personally, I also would like the extended racing, early start or not. I can’t speak to everyone’s insurance. Mine covers me day or night. If I go cruising for a week, in my mind, that’s what the throw outs are for. Finally, I don’t appreciate getting club emails with foul language.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 9, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Cruising Fleet Racing <wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
Tony,
I totally agree with Lou. Major decisions are being made without consulting the Fleet. For example I just received an e-mail notifying me that I have been subscribed to the “NBC PHRF Racing Group”. WTF? I’m a member of the Cruising Fleet, I’m a member of the Open Fleet, and now I have to join a PHRF Racing Group too? This is getting ridiculous.
If we don’t have to pay Cruising Fleet dues this year, I don’t think we should have to renew our 2019 PHRF ratings if there have been no changes. However, I would like to continue supporting HRYRA.
Finally, there should be no Wednesday Night racing after Labor Day unless we can start earlier.
Lee
From: Louis Spitz [mailto:aronella@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:21 PM
To: Tony Martin (afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu)
Cc: aronella@gmail.com; Lee Luce; Carol Marsh
Subject: Re: Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
Hi Tony,
I was assuming that racing only Wed. nights at the club did not require a PHRF certificate. I have no intention of doing any racing this year, except for the Wed.night series. Do I need a certificate for just that? Also, the extension of the Wed. night series beyond the end of August might be illegal for 2 reasons:
1) Insurance: calls for racing substantially after dark
2) no representation (from me, at least) of changing the season from what had been a long tradition of ending racing the end of August. Where did this change come from, who inspired it,
how was it voted on?
I plan to go cruising the beginning of September, which would knock me out of the standings (if I happened to place, that is). I have always cruised at that time. That’s why I have a cruising boat!
For me, I even debated launching this season, much less race. I now feel o.k. with a crew of 4 or less, if I minimize time in the launch, and everyone wears masks, etc.
Don’t you think that some of these ‘rules’ will limit the number of folks who might otherwise want to race? There seems to be a dwindling of both spin and non-spin boats on the line.
Thanks,
Lou
On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Tony Martin afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu <afmartin@mindspring.com> wrote:
Hi Lou,
I don't see that Merry Chase has a valid 2020 HRYRA PHRF <https://phrf.hryra.org/index.php?q=phrf/ratings> -- a requirement to participate in the NBC races (see NoR/SI) and in our Wednesday Night Series (and other Cruising Fleet Series).
Under our 2020 Series Scoring rules, we recognize race results only if the lack of PHRF is cured within 7 days of the race -- that time limit has lapsed for last Wednesday. But, since we didn't notify you last week, when I sent results, you have until the start of next Wednesday's race (July 15) to remedy the situation. After that you'll be scored DNC in the series for any prior races.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks -- Tony Martin, Cruising Fleet Scoring
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Cruising Fleet Racing
Sat, Jul 11, 2020 4:08 PM
Please resubscribe me to the cruising fleet email list. I never unsubscribed!!
Thank you.
Lou Spitz
On Jul 11, 2020, at 10:20 AM, Cruising Fleet Racing wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org wrote:
You are unsubscribed from the Cruising fleet e-mail list.
You should have gotten a notification if the system is working correctly.
Lee
From: Wednightracing [mailto:wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org] On Behalf Of Cruising Fleet Racing
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 1:12 PM
To: wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org
Subject: Re: [CruisingFleetRacing] Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
Lee -- How do I get off this list?
Edward B. Claflin
128 High Avenue, Suite #2
Nyack, NY 10960
Cellphone: 845.216.9638
Office: 845.358.1084
ebclaflin@gmail.com mailto:ebclaflin@gmail.com
On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 1:05 PM Cruising Fleet Racing <wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org mailto:wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
Right. Sorry about the language. Out of place.
Please sign your e-mail next time.
Lee
From: Wednightracing [mailto:wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org mailto:wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org] On Behalf Of Cruising Fleet Racing
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:43 PM
To: wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org mailto:wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org
Subject: Re: [CruisingFleetRacing] Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
I too am a member of both fleets and prefer getting these emails once. So, great idea to create a combined email group for PHRF racing. I support it. Personally, I also would like the extended racing, early start or not. I can’t speak to everyone’s insurance. Mine covers me day or night. If I go cruising for a week, in my mind, that’s what the throw outs are for. Finally, I don’t appreciate getting club emails with foul language.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 9, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Cruising Fleet Racing <wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org mailto:wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
Tony,
I totally agree with Lou. Major decisions are being made without consulting the Fleet. For example I just received an e-mail notifying me that I have been subscribed to the “NBC PHRF Racing Group”. WTF? I’m a member of the Cruising Fleet, I’m a member of the Open Fleet, and now I have to join a PHRF Racing Group too? This is getting ridiculous.
If we don’t have to pay Cruising Fleet dues this year, I don’t think we should have to renew our 2019 PHRF ratings if there have been no changes. However, I would like to continue supporting HRYRA.
Finally, there should be no Wednesday Night racing after Labor Day unless we can start earlier.
Lee
From: Louis Spitz [mailto:aronella@gmail.com mailto:aronella@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:21 PM
To: Tony Martin (afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu mailto:afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu)
Cc: aronella@gmail.com mailto:aronella@gmail.com; Lee Luce; Carol Marsh
Subject: Re: Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
Hi Tony,
I was assuming that racing only Wed. nights at the club did not require a PHRF certificate. I have no intention of doing any racing this year, except for the Wed.night series. Do I need a certificate for just that? Also, the extension of the Wed. night series beyond the end of August might be illegal for 2 reasons:
- Insurance: calls for racing substantially after dark
- no representation (from me, at least) of changing the season from what had been a long tradition of ending racing the end of August. Where did this change come from, who inspired it,
how was it voted on?
I plan to go cruising the beginning of September, which would knock me out of the standings (if I happened to place, that is). I have always cruised at that time. That’s why I have a cruising boat!
For me, I even debated launching this season, much less race. I now feel o.k. with a crew of 4 or less, if I minimize time in the launch, and everyone wears masks, etc.
Don’t you think that some of these ‘rules’ will limit the number of folks who might otherwise want to race? There seems to be a dwindling of both spin and non-spin boats on the line.
Thanks,
Lou
On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Tony Martin afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu mailto:afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu <afmartin@mindspring.com mailto:afmartin@mindspring.com> wrote:
Hi Lou,
I don't see that Merry Chase has a valid 2020 HRYRA PHRF https://phrf.hryra.org/index.php?q=phrf/ratings -- a requirement to participate in the NBC races (see NoR/SI) and in our Wednesday Night Series (and other Cruising Fleet Series).
Under our 2020 Series Scoring rules, we recognize race results only if the lack of PHRF is cured within 7 days of the race -- that time limit has lapsed for last Wednesday. But, since we didn't notify you last week, when I sent results, you have until the start of next Wednesday's race (July 15) to remedy the situation. After that you'll be scored DNC in the series for any prior races.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks -- Tony Martin, Cruising Fleet Scoring
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Please resubscribe me to the cruising fleet email list. I never unsubscribed!!
Thank you.
Lou Spitz
> On Jul 11, 2020, at 10:20 AM, Cruising Fleet Racing <wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
>
> You are unsubscribed from the Cruising fleet e-mail list.
> You should have gotten a notification if the system is working correctly.
> Lee
>
> From: Wednightracing [mailto:wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org] On Behalf Of Cruising Fleet Racing
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 1:12 PM
> To: wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org
> Subject: Re: [CruisingFleetRacing] Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
>
> Lee -- How do I get off this list?
>
> Edward B. Claflin
> 128 High Avenue, Suite #2
> Nyack, NY 10960
> Cellphone: 845.216.9638
> Office: 845.358.1084
> ebclaflin@gmail.com <mailto:ebclaflin@gmail.com>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 1:05 PM Cruising Fleet Racing <wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org <mailto:wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org>> wrote:
> Right. Sorry about the language. Out of place.
> Please sign your e-mail next time.
> Lee
>
> From: Wednightracing [mailto:wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org <mailto:wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org>] On Behalf Of Cruising Fleet Racing
> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:43 PM
> To: wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org <mailto:wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org>
> Subject: Re: [CruisingFleetRacing] Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
>
> I too am a member of both fleets and prefer getting these emails once. So, great idea to create a combined email group for PHRF racing. I support it. Personally, I also would like the extended racing, early start or not. I can’t speak to everyone’s insurance. Mine covers me day or night. If I go cruising for a week, in my mind, that’s what the throw outs are for. Finally, I don’t appreciate getting club emails with foul language.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Cruising Fleet Racing <wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org <mailto:wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org>> wrote:
>
>
> Tony,
> I totally agree with Lou. Major decisions are being made without consulting the Fleet. For example I just received an e-mail notifying me that I have been subscribed to the “NBC PHRF Racing Group”. WTF? I’m a member of the Cruising Fleet, I’m a member of the Open Fleet, and now I have to join a PHRF Racing Group too? This is getting ridiculous.
> If we don’t have to pay Cruising Fleet dues this year, I don’t think we should have to renew our 2019 PHRF ratings if there have been no changes. However, I would like to continue supporting HRYRA.
> Finally, there should be no Wednesday Night racing after Labor Day unless we can start earlier.
> Lee
>
>
> From: Louis Spitz [mailto:aronella@gmail.com <mailto:aronella@gmail.com>]
> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:21 PM
> To: Tony Martin (afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu <mailto:afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu>)
> Cc: aronella@gmail.com <mailto:aronella@gmail.com>; Lee Luce; Carol Marsh
> Subject: Re: Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> I was assuming that racing only Wed. nights at the club did not require a PHRF certificate. I have no intention of doing any racing this year, except for the Wed.night series. Do I need a certificate for just that? Also, the extension of the Wed. night series beyond the end of August might be illegal for 2 reasons:
> 1) Insurance: calls for racing substantially after dark
> 2) no representation (from me, at least) of changing the season from what had been a long tradition of ending racing the end of August. Where did this change come from, who inspired it,
> how was it voted on?
>
> I plan to go cruising the beginning of September, which would knock me out of the standings (if I happened to place, that is). I have always cruised at that time. That’s why I have a cruising boat!
> For me, I even debated launching this season, much less race. I now feel o.k. with a crew of 4 or less, if I minimize time in the launch, and everyone wears masks, etc.
> Don’t you think that some of these ‘rules’ will limit the number of folks who might otherwise want to race? There seems to be a dwindling of both spin and non-spin boats on the line.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Tony Martin afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu <mailto:afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu> <afmartin@mindspring.com <mailto:afmartin@mindspring.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Lou,
> I don't see that Merry Chase has a valid 2020 HRYRA PHRF <https://phrf.hryra.org/index.php?q=phrf/ratings> -- a requirement to participate in the NBC races (see NoR/SI) and in our Wednesday Night Series (and other Cruising Fleet Series).
>
> Under our 2020 Series Scoring rules, we recognize race results only if the lack of PHRF is cured within 7 days of the race -- that time limit has lapsed for last Wednesday. But, since we didn't notify you last week, when I sent results, you have until the start of next Wednesday's race (July 15) to remedy the situation. After that you'll be scored DNC in the series for any prior races.
>
> Let me know if you have any questions.
> Thanks -- Tony Martin, Cruising Fleet Scoring
>
>
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Sat, Jul 11, 2020 4:27 PM
Hi Lee, Did you mean to send this to everyone in the fleet?
Jeff
On Jul 11, 2020, at 1020, Cruising Fleet Racing wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org wrote:
You are unsubscribed from the Cruising fleet e-mail list.
You should have gotten a notification if the system is working correctly.
Lee
From: Wednightracing [mailto:wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org mailto:wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org] On Behalf Of Cruising Fleet Racing
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 1:12 PM
To: wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org mailto:wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org
Subject: Re: [CruisingFleetRacing] Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
Lee -- How do I get off this list?
Edward B. Claflin
128 High Avenue, Suite #2
Nyack, NY 10960
Cellphone: 845.216.9638
Office: 845.358.1084
ebclaflin@gmail.com mailto:ebclaflin@gmail.com
On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 1:05 PM Cruising Fleet Racing <wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org mailto:wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
Right. Sorry about the language. Out of place.
Please sign your e-mail next time.
Lee
From: Wednightracing [mailto:wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org mailto:wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org] On Behalf Of Cruising Fleet Racing
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:43 PM
To: wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org mailto:wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org
Subject: Re: [CruisingFleetRacing] Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
I too am a member of both fleets and prefer getting these emails once. So, great idea to create a combined email group for PHRF racing. I support it. Personally, I also would like the extended racing, early start or not. I can’t speak to everyone’s insurance. Mine covers me day or night. If I go cruising for a week, in my mind, that’s what the throw outs are for. Finally, I don’t appreciate getting club emails with foul language.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 9, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Cruising Fleet Racing <wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org mailto:wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
Tony,
I totally agree with Lou. Major decisions are being made without consulting the Fleet. For example I just received an e-mail notifying me that I have been subscribed to the “NBC PHRF Racing Group”. WTF? I’m a member of the Cruising Fleet, I’m a member of the Open Fleet, and now I have to join a PHRF Racing Group too? This is getting ridiculous.
If we don’t have to pay Cruising Fleet dues this year, I don’t think we should have to renew our 2019 PHRF ratings if there have been no changes. However, I would like to continue supporting HRYRA.
Finally, there should be no Wednesday Night racing after Labor Day unless we can start earlier.
Lee
From: Louis Spitz [mailto:aronella@gmail.com mailto:aronella@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:21 PM
To: Tony Martin (afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu mailto:afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu)
Cc: aronella@gmail.com mailto:aronella@gmail.com; Lee Luce; Carol Marsh
Subject: Re: Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
Hi Tony,
I was assuming that racing only Wed. nights at the club did not require a PHRF certificate. I have no intention of doing any racing this year, except for the Wed.night series. Do I need a certificate for just that? Also, the extension of the Wed. night series beyond the end of August might be illegal for 2 reasons:
- Insurance: calls for racing substantially after dark
- no representation (from me, at least) of changing the season from what had been a long tradition of ending racing the end of August. Where did this change come from, who inspired it,
how was it voted on?
I plan to go cruising the beginning of September, which would knock me out of the standings (if I happened to place, that is). I have always cruised at that time. That’s why I have a cruising boat!
For me, I even debated launching this season, much less race. I now feel o.k. with a crew of 4 or less, if I minimize time in the launch, and everyone wears masks, etc.
Don’t you think that some of these ‘rules’ will limit the number of folks who might otherwise want to race? There seems to be a dwindling of both spin and non-spin boats on the line.
Thanks,
Lou
On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Tony Martin afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu mailto:afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu <afmartin@mindspring.com mailto:afmartin@mindspring.com> wrote:
Hi Lou,
I don't see that Merry Chase has a valid 2020 HRYRA PHRF https://phrf.hryra.org/index.php?q=phrf/ratings -- a requirement to participate in the NBC races (see NoR/SI) and in our Wednesday Night Series (and other Cruising Fleet Series).
Under our 2020 Series Scoring rules, we recognize race results only if the lack of PHRF is cured within 7 days of the race -- that time limit has lapsed for last Wednesday. But, since we didn't notify you last week, when I sent results, you have until the start of next Wednesday's race (July 15) to remedy the situation. After that you'll be scored DNC in the series for any prior races.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks -- Tony Martin, Cruising Fleet Scoring
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Hi Lee, Did you mean to send this to everyone in the fleet?
Jeff
On Jul 11, 2020, at 1020, Cruising Fleet Racing <wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org> wrote:
You are unsubscribed from the Cruising fleet e-mail list.
You should have gotten a notification if the system is working correctly.
Lee
From: Wednightracing [mailto:wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org <mailto:wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org>] On Behalf Of Cruising Fleet Racing
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 1:12 PM
To: wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org <mailto:wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org>
Subject: Re: [CruisingFleetRacing] Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
Lee -- How do I get off this list?
Edward B. Claflin
128 High Avenue, Suite #2
Nyack, NY 10960
Cellphone: 845.216.9638
Office: 845.358.1084
ebclaflin@gmail.com <mailto:ebclaflin@gmail.com>
On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 1:05 PM Cruising Fleet Racing <wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org <mailto:wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org>> wrote:
Right. Sorry about the language. Out of place.
Please sign your e-mail next time.
Lee
From: Wednightracing [mailto:wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org <mailto:wednightracing-bounces@maillist.nyackboatclub.org>] On Behalf Of Cruising Fleet Racing
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:43 PM
To: wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org <mailto:wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org>
Subject: Re: [CruisingFleetRacing] Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
I too am a member of both fleets and prefer getting these emails once. So, great idea to create a combined email group for PHRF racing. I support it. Personally, I also would like the extended racing, early start or not. I can’t speak to everyone’s insurance. Mine covers me day or night. If I go cruising for a week, in my mind, that’s what the throw outs are for. Finally, I don’t appreciate getting club emails with foul language.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 9, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Cruising Fleet Racing <wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org <mailto:wednightracing@maillist.nyackboatclub.org>> wrote:
Tony,
I totally agree with Lou. Major decisions are being made without consulting the Fleet. For example I just received an e-mail notifying me that I have been subscribed to the “NBC PHRF Racing Group”. WTF? I’m a member of the Cruising Fleet, I’m a member of the Open Fleet, and now I have to join a PHRF Racing Group too? This is getting ridiculous.
If we don’t have to pay Cruising Fleet dues this year, I don’t think we should have to renew our 2019 PHRF ratings if there have been no changes. However, I would like to continue supporting HRYRA.
Finally, there should be no Wednesday Night racing after Labor Day unless we can start earlier.
Lee
From: Louis Spitz [mailto:aronella@gmail.com <mailto:aronella@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:21 PM
To: Tony Martin (afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu <mailto:afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu>)
Cc: aronella@gmail.com <mailto:aronella@gmail.com>; Lee Luce; Carol Marsh
Subject: Re: Merry Chase -- no 2020 HRYRA PHRF
Hi Tony,
I was assuming that racing only Wed. nights at the club did not require a PHRF certificate. I have no intention of doing any racing this year, except for the Wed.night series. Do I need a certificate for just that? Also, the extension of the Wed. night series beyond the end of August might be illegal for 2 reasons:
1) Insurance: calls for racing substantially after dark
2) no representation (from me, at least) of changing the season from what had been a long tradition of ending racing the end of August. Where did this change come from, who inspired it,
how was it voted on?
I plan to go cruising the beginning of September, which would knock me out of the standings (if I happened to place, that is). I have always cruised at that time. That’s why I have a cruising boat!
For me, I even debated launching this season, much less race. I now feel o.k. with a crew of 4 or less, if I minimize time in the launch, and everyone wears masks, etc.
Don’t you think that some of these ‘rules’ will limit the number of folks who might otherwise want to race? There seems to be a dwindling of both spin and non-spin boats on the line.
Thanks,
Lou
On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Tony Martin afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu <mailto:afmartin@alumni.uchicago.edu> <afmartin@mindspring.com <mailto:afmartin@mindspring.com>> wrote:
Hi Lou,
I don't see that Merry Chase has a valid 2020 HRYRA PHRF <https://phrf.hryra.org/index.php?q=phrf/ratings> -- a requirement to participate in the NBC races (see NoR/SI) and in our Wednesday Night Series (and other Cruising Fleet Series).
Under our 2020 Series Scoring rules, we recognize race results only if the lack of PHRF is cured within 7 days of the race -- that time limit has lapsed for last Wednesday. But, since we didn't notify you last week, when I sent results, you have until the start of next Wednesday's race (July 15) to remedy the situation. After that you'll be scored DNC in the series for any prior races.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks -- Tony Martin, Cruising Fleet Scoring
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