TWL: cetol
After reading about the ups and downs of cetol,another question just
came up.Can you color or tint cetol and no its not a joke.My Island
Trader has the cockpit seats in gray natural teak while the trim is in
cetol.I`m bringing her back to the great lakes where its very hard to
keep teak clean and gray without doing the salt bucket washdown.It might
be something to think about if there was a way to change the color of
the seats but leave the trim in regular cetol.Whats the word on that
idea?Help always appreciated. Steve
Mostly at the advice of people on this list, this fall I sanded my boat
transome to bare wood and applied Cetol. The plain kind, not the glossy.
We are going cruising, not to a yacht show. Anyways, I put on 5 coats.
After this much, the plain Cetol gives the wood an orange tint. However,
it looks great, wears well, and everyone on our dock gave plenty of
compliments.
Invest in the best brush you can afford. Nothing makes the job harder -
after days of sanding - than having brush hairs constantly falling out.
-JimB
Jim Baumgart
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(760)749-4257 San Diego
baumgart@starrstuff.com writes:
Anyways, I put on 5 coats.
After this much, the plain Cetol gives the wood an orange tint.
However,
it looks great, wears well, and everyone on our dock gave plenty of
compliments.
Next time try Armada. It is practically the same stuff but has less
tint to it. BTW the label says three coats, which I find sufficient.
But then I live in Canada where the sun is less severe than down
south (so they tell me).
Invest in the best brush you can afford. Nothing makes the job
harder -
after days of sanding - than having brush hairs constantly falling
out.
I use these inexpensive sponge brushes. No hair to fall out and they
are so cheap that you just throw them away after use - except thrifty
me: For just overnight storage, I wrap the sponge brush in aluminium
foil and put it in the freezer. Next day they're just like
yesterday....
Ciao - George of Scaramouche in Lake Ontario
I have found that more than 2 coats of the satin Cetol leave an orange or
chocolate tint. This can also happen if you use it over varnish. If you
use 2 coats of the satin and as many of the gloss as you like, the
results look somewhat close to varnish-at least close enough for me.
I have called the makers of Cetol (Sikkens) and they recommend against
applying Cetol gloss over anything except the satin. They do not
recommend applying it on bare wood.
Tom Mahowald
1977 CHB 34
Redondo Beach, CA
At 09:11 AM 2/13/00 -0800, you wrote:
Mostly at the advice of people on this list, this fall I sanded my boat
transome to bare wood and applied Cetol. The plain kind, not the glossy.
We are going cruising, not to a yacht show. Anyways, I put on 5 coats.
After this much, the plain Cetol gives the wood an orange tint. However,
it looks great, wears well, and everyone on our dock gave plenty of
compliments.
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The problem is Jim the teak no longer looks like the teak you paid for.
AL
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"M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47
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Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064
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I'm sure I've said it before on this list, but all the exterior teak
trim on my trawler was varnished when I bought it - cap rails, hand
rails, wondow trim, etc. (Decks are natural - gray.)
Over the past year I have stripped the vanished teak down to bare wood,
sanded it smooth, and applied three coats of satin cetol. There are only
two windows left whose trim has not been refinished. I cannot tell any
difference in color or finish between that with cetol and that with the
varnish! It looks EXACTLY like the teak I WANT and paid for!
Perhaps it depends on the quality of the teak or the refinishing
process!
Al Pilvinis wrote:
The problem is Jim the teak no longer looks like the teak you paid for.
--
Bob McLeran rmcleran@ix.netcom.com
M/V "Sanderling" Docked at Point Patience Marina
Hailing port: Wianno MA Solomons, MD
Hampton 35 Trawler
Bob McLeran said in Re: TWL: cetol at Feb/14/2000 12:07:25.
I'm sure I've said it before on this list, but all the exterior teak
trim on my trawler was varnished when I bought it - cap rails, hand
rails, wondow trim, etc. (Decks are natural - gray.)
Over the past year I have stripped the vanished teak down to bare wood,
sanded it smooth, and applied three coats of satin cetol. There are only
two windows left whose trim has not been refinished. I cannot tell any
difference in color or finish between that with cetol and that with the
varnish! It looks EXACTLY like the teak I WANT and paid for!
Perhaps it depends on the quality of the teak or the refinishing
process!
Al Pilvinis wrote:
The problem is Jim the teak no longer looks like the teak you paid for.
I'd tend to agree with Bob on this, I've seen, some fine looking teak on
very well maintained boats, that were done with Cetol. I'm wondering if
this "off" color tint some seem to perceive with Cetol could be the result
of just a glossier and better protected teak?
The question is, beyond the apparent tendancy of Armada, to not be
perceived as having as much an "off color tint" as Cetol, are there any
other good reasons to prefer one to the other? Durability? Ease of use?
Etc?
--
Jh
Nimble Nomad
SF Bay & Delta
I wish I had known about Armada before I started with Cetol just so I
could have made a comparison. People on the list seem to think Armada
looks more "natural."
I have seen a trawler with teak decks "painted" with something which I
know wasn't Cetol, and they looked terrible. In fact, the owner had
stripped and sanded from varnish to bare wood on all his trim, teak deck
chairs, etc, and then refinished the natural teak decks with what ever
this stuff was. He liked it, but I felt it looked like brownish porch
paint! I hope that wasn't Armada.
Has anyone seen Armada and Cetol side by side? If so, how does the
finish compare in terms of texture and coloration?
Jh wrote:
I'd tend to agree with Bob on this, I've seen, some fine looking teak on
very well maintained boats, that were done with Cetol. I'm wondering if
this "off" color tint some seem to perceive with Cetol could be the result
of just a glossier and better protected teak?
The question is, beyond the apparent tendancy of Armada, to not be
perceived as having as much an "off color tint" as Cetol, are there any
other good reasons to prefer one to the other? Durability? Ease of use?
--
Bob McLeran rmcleran@ix.netcom.com
M/V "Sanderling" Docked at Point Patience Marina
Hailing port: Wianno MA Solomons, MD
Hampton 35 Trawler
I have used both products over the past several years. In fact used Sikkens
several years prior to them introducing their Cetol Marine Finish. After
trying the marine finish, and was not happy with that I went back to their
commercial brand. Someone suggested Armada and after giving this a try found
this to be very satisfactory for my use.
Easy to apply and a minimum effort to keep it looking good.
Do not have any stock or interest in either product other than getting good
results.
Harold Meekins
OSPREY
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From: owner-trawler-world-list@samurai.com
[mailto:owner-trawler-world-list@samurai.com]On Behalf Of Bob McLeran
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 1:28 PM
Cc: trawler-world-list@samurai.com
Subject: Re: TWL: cetol
I wish I had known about Armada before I started with Cetol just so I
could have made a comparison. People on the list seem to think Armada
looks more "natural."
I have seen a trawler with teak decks "painted" with something which I
know wasn't Cetol, and they looked terrible. In fact, the owner had
stripped and sanded from varnish to bare wood on all his trim, teak deck
chairs, etc, and then refinished the natural teak decks with what ever
this stuff was. He liked it, but I felt it looked like brownish porch
paint! I hope that wasn't Armada.
Has anyone seen Armada and Cetol side by side? If so, how does the
finish compare in terms of texture and coloration?
Jh wrote:
I'd tend to agree with Bob on this, I've seen, some fine looking teak on
very well maintained boats, that were done with Cetol. I'm wondering if
this "off" color tint some seem to perceive with Cetol could be the result
of just a glossier and better protected teak?
The question is, beyond the apparent tendancy of Armada, to not be
perceived as having as much an "off color tint" as Cetol, are there any
other good reasons to prefer one to the other? Durability? Ease of use?
--
Bob McLeran rmcleran@ix.netcom.com
M/V "Sanderling" Docked at Point Patience Marina
Hailing port: Wianno MA Solomons, MD
Hampton 35 Trawler
I have used AwlGrip AwlBrite . It requires about 6 coats, but it dries very
fast between coats. It lasts about 3 seasons, depending if it is out of the
sun.
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