Y
yourcaptain@earthlink.net
Tue, Jun 12, 2001 1:31 AM
Joe-----I use 15w40 as the good book says and change regularily on
schedule. I buy my oil at Walmart and it conforms to all the manufacturer
and Mil specs and additives.
$5.38 a gallon, if they are out I go next door to Pep Boys, same specs. Do
you think I will wear these engines out???
I don't think so........They say the average boater which I am not puts on
about 150 hours per year, thats 10 to 20 years of boating. The long
dissertation on oil will just confuse a lot of readers unecessarily and
will not help the Newbies.
---============================
Capt. Al,
you wrote today:
Joe ---------for our purposes, do you think it really matters what oil we
use as long as the viscosity is right.
I believe that the viscosity must be right and that the additive
package/rating must also be appropriate,
Joe-----I use 15w40 as the good book says and change regularily on
schedule. I buy my oil at Walmart and it conforms to all the manufacturer
and Mil specs and additives.
$5.38 a gallon, if they are out I go next door to Pep Boys, same specs. Do
you think I will wear these engines out???
I don't think so........They say the average boater which I am not puts on
about 150 hours per year, thats 10 to 20 years of boating. The long
dissertation on oil will just confuse a lot of readers unecessarily and
will not help the Newbies.
=============================================================
>Capt. Al,
> you wrote today:
>> Joe ---------for our purposes, do you think it really matters what oil we
>> use as long as the viscosity is right.
>
>I believe that the viscosity must be right and that the additive
>package/rating must also be appropriate,
.
Captain Al Pilvinis
"M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47
2630 N.E. 41st Street
Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064
Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666
Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net
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A
alexh@olypen.com
Tue, Jun 12, 2001 3:35 PM
Joe-----I use 15w40 as the good book says and change regularily on
schedule.
Hi Al,
Assuming that your engine calls for a 15w40 and that's what you're using
then it would be virtually (and maybe totally) impossible to buy the "wrong"
oil. As I've mentioned before, the specs for 15w40 are so tight these days
that there's almost no difference among brands.
For the same reason it's also acceptable to switch back and forth among
brands of 15w40 according to what is available.
There are, however, special cases where the choices are not quite so simple.
Lately we've been discussing Detroit Diesel 2-stroke engines and Lehman type
engines. DD's call for a low ash oil and there are real (potential)
consequences for not using such a product. Add to this the fact that many
oil refiners tend to have very similar names for all their commercial market
motor oils and the fact that some dealers themselves don't stock the oil or
recognize the difference. All in all I think it's valid to point out these
requirements to our members. OTOH: Lehman calls for a single grade oil but
not a low ash oil. Certain TWListees would like to switch to a 15w40 for
their Lehman. I THINK such a switch is OK but I don't KNOW since we haven't
heard the reasons behind Bob Smith's recommendation. As a result such
discussions tend to get a bit technical and speculative. I would like to
point out that when I get into these esoteric areas I always try to preface
my remarks by saying something like "When in doubt follow the manual's
instructions".
I recently received a private email asking the following: "If cost was not a
factor -- would you put Mobil Delvac 1 in your diesel?"
My answer is a qualified yes. Unless you've got a DD 2-stroke or a Lehman a
synthetic such as Mobil Delvac 1 is probably the best oil you can buy. There
are some non-monetary considerations however: If you have an oil leak
synthetic will usually leak more than mineral oil. Supply sources are
another factor. Synthetics are still fairly rare in the marketplace and you
are far less likely to find such a product at most marina chandleries.
Figure on carrying enough on board to meet your needs. Of course you can add
mineral oil to synthetic in a pinch but if you do that why buy the synthetic
in the first place?
Arcanely yours,
Alex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Captain Al Pilvinis" <yourcaptain@earthlink.net>
> Joe-----I use 15w40 as the good book says and change regularily on
> schedule.
Hi Al,
Assuming that your engine calls for a 15w40 and that's what you're using
then it would be virtually (and maybe totally) impossible to buy the "wrong"
oil. As I've mentioned before, the specs for 15w40 are so tight these days
that there's almost no difference among brands.
For the same reason it's also acceptable to switch back and forth among
brands of 15w40 according to what is available.
There are, however, special cases where the choices are not quite so simple.
Lately we've been discussing Detroit Diesel 2-stroke engines and Lehman type
engines. DD's call for a low ash oil and there are real (potential)
consequences for not using such a product. Add to this the fact that many
oil refiners tend to have very similar names for all their commercial market
motor oils and the fact that some dealers themselves don't stock the oil or
recognize the difference. All in all I think it's valid to point out these
requirements to our members. OTOH: Lehman calls for a single grade oil but
not a low ash oil. Certain TWListees would like to switch to a 15w40 for
their Lehman. I THINK such a switch is OK but I don't KNOW since we haven't
heard the reasons behind Bob Smith's recommendation. As a result such
discussions tend to get a bit technical and speculative. I would like to
point out that when I get into these esoteric areas I always try to preface
my remarks by saying something like "When in doubt follow the manual's
instructions".
I recently received a private email asking the following: "If cost was not a
factor -- would you put Mobil Delvac 1 in your diesel?"
My answer is a qualified yes. Unless you've got a DD 2-stroke or a Lehman a
synthetic such as Mobil Delvac 1 is probably the best oil you can buy. There
are some non-monetary considerations however: If you have an oil leak
synthetic will usually leak more than mineral oil. Supply sources are
another factor. Synthetics are still fairly rare in the marketplace and you
are far less likely to find such a product at most marina chandleries.
Figure on carrying enough on board to meet your needs. Of course you can add
mineral oil to synthetic in a pinch but if you do that why buy the synthetic
in the first place?
Arcanely yours,
Alex
A
adventuresoul@yahoo.com
Tue, Jun 12, 2001 4:02 PM
Think I sent this originally only to captain Al by
mistake (Sorry AL). I havent seen it yet so here goes
again.
I am wondering what will the effects of salt air be on
my guns while on board. Lets Please not turn this
thread into legal or ethical debate about guns on
board.
I suspect the salt air will damage the metal. Im nto
sure to what degree, or how if any way to prevent
this.
Anyone know?
Dan Symula
37 Roughwater
"Wen I Dream"
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Think I sent this originally only to captain Al by
mistake (Sorry AL). I havent seen it yet so here goes
again.
I am wondering what will the effects of salt air be on
my guns while on board. Lets Please not turn this
thread into legal or ethical debate about guns on
board.
I suspect the salt air will damage the metal. Im nto
sure to what degree, or how if any way to prevent
this.
Anyone know?
Dan Symula
37 Roughwater
"Wen I Dream"
=====
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adventuresoul@yahoo.com
Tue, Jun 12, 2001 4:08 PM
Last night while plugging in my phone, I found I have
somethign I thought was a phone jack, but is not.
The phone cord plugs into it just fine, like it was a
jack. But following the wire, it attaches to what I
had previously (and still) thought was a piece of the
autpilot, a large rectangular black box. I dont have
the foggiest clue what this jack thing is or why it is
there. Anyone seen anything like this or have a clue
as to what could be?
Dan
37 Roughwater
"Wen I Dream"
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Last night while plugging in my phone, I found I have
somethign I thought was a phone jack, but is not.
The phone cord plugs into it just fine, like it was a
jack. But following the wire, it attaches to what I
had previously (and still) thought was a piece of the
autpilot, a large rectangular black box. I dont have
the foggiest clue what this jack thing is or why it is
there. Anyone seen anything like this or have a clue
as to what could be?
Dan
37 Roughwater
"Wen I Dream"
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fburrows@mail.com
Tue, Jun 12, 2001 5:07 PM
Could it be for a remote control for the autopilot???
Frank
Last night while plugging in my phone, I found I have
somethign I thought was a phone jack, but is not.
Could it be for a remote control for the autopilot???
Frank
>
>Last night while plugging in my phone, I found I have
>somethign I thought was a phone jack, but is not.
>
S
samakijoe@mediaone.net
Tue, Jun 12, 2001 7:57 PM
I am wondering what will the effects of salt air be on
my guns while on board. Lets Please not turn this
thread into legal or ethical debate about guns on
board.
I suspect the salt air will damage the metal. Im nto
sure to what degree, or how if any way to prevent
this.
Anyone know?
Dan Symula
Dan: when I carry my short shot gun (never fired yet) on the boat it is
stored in a water proof yellow plastic carrier. It's made like those
"white water" bags you would place your clothes in on a canoe trip. It
came with the gun (used) so I don't know where to get them. I will add one
of those desicant bags when I think of it..jd
Joe DellaFera / Margaret Murray
36' Prairie DC "Prairie Star"
Pompano Beach, Fl.
>I am wondering what will the effects of salt air be on
>my guns while on board. Lets Please not turn this
>thread into legal or ethical debate about guns on
>board.
>
>I suspect the salt air will damage the metal. Im nto
>sure to what degree, or how if any way to prevent
>this.
>
>Anyone know?
>
>Dan Symula
Dan: when I carry my short shot gun (never fired yet) on the boat it is
stored in a water proof yellow plastic carrier. It's made like those
"white water" bags you would place your clothes in on a canoe trip. It
came with the gun (used) so I don't know where to get them. I will add one
of those desicant bags when I think of it..jd
Joe DellaFera / Margaret Murray
36' Prairie DC "Prairie Star"
Pompano Beach, Fl.
S
samakijoe@mediaone.net
Tue, Jun 12, 2001 7:59 PM
At 09:08 AM 06/12/2001 -0700, Dan Symula wrote:
Last night while plugging in my phone, I found I have
somethign I thought was a phone jack, but is not.
The phone cord plugs into it just fine, like it was a
jack. But following the wire, it attaches to what I
had previously (and still) thought was a piece of the
autpilot, a large rectangular black box. I dont have
the foggiest clue what this jack thing is or why it is
there. Anyone seen anything like this or have a clue
as to what could be?
Dan
Uncle Sam is trying to find out how many guns you have on board... (just
kidding.)..jd
Joe DellaFera / Margaret Murray
36' Prairie DC "Prairie Star"
Pompano Beach, Fl.
At 09:08 AM 06/12/2001 -0700, Dan Symula wrote:
>Last night while plugging in my phone, I found I have
>somethign I thought was a phone jack, but is not.
>
>The phone cord plugs into it just fine, like it was a
>jack. But following the wire, it attaches to what I
>had previously (and still) thought was a piece of the
>autpilot, a large rectangular black box. I dont have
>the foggiest clue what this jack thing is or why it is
>there. Anyone seen anything like this or have a clue
>as to what could be?
>
>Dan
Uncle Sam is trying to find out how many guns you have on board... (just
kidding.)..jd
Joe DellaFera / Margaret Murray
36' Prairie DC "Prairie Star"
Pompano Beach, Fl.
R
rossflem@serv.net
Tue, Jun 12, 2001 8:04 PM
Last night while plugging in my phone, I found I have
somethign I thought was a phone jack, but is not.
Some inverters use phone cord for their remote control units.
Ross Fleming rossflem@serv.net
Seattle, WA
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:08:30 -0700 (PDT), Dan Symula
<adventuresoul@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Last night while plugging in my phone, I found I have
>somethign I thought was a phone jack, but is not.
Some inverters use phone cord for their remote control units.
----------------------------------------
Ross Fleming rossflem@serv.net
Seattle, WA
G
gbrooks@ncia.com
Tue, Jun 12, 2001 8:33 PM
Dan,
I have several of these phone jacks receptacles on Nereid V including:
-
On the Cetrek 770 autopilot for the rudder position feedback cable.
-
On the 40A Statpower battery charger for the remote panel cable.
-
On the 40A Statpower battery charger for the battery temperature cable.
-
On my 3 W mobile cell phone transceiver for the handset cable connection.
Regards,
George Brooks
Nereid V 1981 CHB 45' Tri-cabin
La Conner, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Symula adventuresoul@yahoo.com
To: Trawler World List trawler-world-list@samurai.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:08 AM
Subject: TWL: strange "phone jack" item
Last night while plugging in my phone, I found I have
somethign I thought was a phone jack, but is not.
The phone cord plugs into it just fine, like it was a
jack. But following the wire, it attaches to what I
had previously (and still) thought was a piece of the
autpilot, a large rectangular black box. I dont have
the foggiest clue what this jack thing is or why it is
there. Anyone seen anything like this or have a clue
as to what could be?
Dan
37 Roughwater
"Wen I Dream"
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Dan,
I have several of these phone jacks receptacles on Nereid V including:
1) On the Cetrek 770 autopilot for the rudder position feedback cable.
2) On the 40A Statpower battery charger for the remote panel cable.
3) On the 40A Statpower battery charger for the battery temperature cable.
4) On my 3 W mobile cell phone transceiver for the handset cable connection.
Regards,
George Brooks
Nereid V 1981 CHB 45' Tri-cabin
La Conner, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Symula <adventuresoul@yahoo.com>
To: Trawler World List <trawler-world-list@samurai.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:08 AM
Subject: TWL: strange "phone jack" item
> Last night while plugging in my phone, I found I have
> somethign I thought was a phone jack, but is not.
>
> The phone cord plugs into it just fine, like it was a
> jack. But following the wire, it attaches to what I
> had previously (and still) thought was a piece of the
> autpilot, a large rectangular black box. I dont have
> the foggiest clue what this jack thing is or why it is
> there. Anyone seen anything like this or have a clue
> as to what could be?
>
> Dan
> 37 Roughwater
> "Wen I Dream"
>
> =====
>
>
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ftimpano@infi.net
Wed, Jun 13, 2001 2:02 AM
Most marine guns are stainless steel to reduce the tendency to corrode.
Mossberg makes a pump 12 gauge in stainless, Ruger's mini 14 comes in
stainless and there are a lot of stainless revolvers available.
Keep you gun in a sealed case, well oiled, if you can. Clean it regularly.
Dessicant in the case can also be helpful. Or, if a revolver, buy a less
expensive one and replace it periodically...most gun dealers will take them
in trade on a new one.
Frank
At 09:02 AM 6/12/01 -0700, Dan Symula wrote:
Think I sent this originally only to captain Al by
mistake (Sorry AL). I havent seen it yet so here goes
again.
I am wondering what will the effects of salt air be on
my guns while on board. Lets Please not turn this
thread into legal or ethical debate about guns on
board.
I suspect the salt air will damage the metal. Im nto
sure to what degree, or how if any way to prevent
this.
Anyone know?
Dan Symula
37 Roughwater
"Wen I Dream"
=====
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Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35
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Most marine guns are stainless steel to reduce the tendency to corrode.
Mossberg makes a pump 12 gauge in stainless, Ruger's mini 14 comes in
stainless and there are a lot of stainless revolvers available.
Keep you gun in a sealed case, well oiled, if you can. Clean it regularly.
Dessicant in the case can also be helpful. Or, if a revolver, buy a less
expensive one and replace it periodically...most gun dealers will take them
in trade on a new one.
Frank
At 09:02 AM 6/12/01 -0700, Dan Symula wrote:
>Think I sent this originally only to captain Al by
>mistake (Sorry AL). I havent seen it yet so here goes
>again.
>
>I am wondering what will the effects of salt air be on
>my guns while on board. Lets Please not turn this
>thread into legal or ethical debate about guns on
>board.
>
>I suspect the salt air will damage the metal. Im nto
>sure to what degree, or how if any way to prevent
>this.
>
>Anyone know?
>
>Dan Symula
>37 Roughwater
>"Wen I Dream"
>
>=====
>
>
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