P
Patrick
Fri, Jun 19, 2009 12:04 PM
Hey everyone
Sorry for the off topic post. I have received great advice in the past
with items for my little shop and I can't resist to ask again.
I am thinking about buying a signal generator. I suspect that I will
mostly use it to inject low uV/mV signals into the amplification stages
of the laboratory instruments I service.
Any feedback you have would be greatly appreciated-Patrick
Hey everyone
Sorry for the off topic post. I have received great advice in the past
with items for my little shop and I can't resist to ask again.
I am thinking about buying a signal generator. I suspect that I will
mostly use it to inject low uV/mV signals into the amplification stages
of the laboratory instruments I service.
Any feedback you have would be greatly appreciated-Patrick
JM
John Miles
Fri, Jun 19, 2009 12:32 PM
Budget? Freq range?
HP 8657As are good general-purpose SGs. Reliable, serviceable, and
reasonably clean. Avoid 8656s and 8660s IMHO unless you can get one for
next to nothing.
If you don't mind getting your hands dirty there have been some inexpensive
8662As on the surplus market lately. They are cleaner than most, have an
actual tuning knob, and include sweep capability. They are complex,
sometimes maintenance-intensive, and very hard to ship safely, and many of
the ones you find on eBay have lived hard lives.
-- john, KE5FX
Hey everyone
Sorry for the off topic post. I have received great advice in the past
with items for my little shop and I can't resist to ask again.
I am thinking about buying a signal generator. I suspect that I will
mostly use it to inject low uV/mV signals into the amplification stages
of the laboratory instruments I service.
Any feedback you have would be greatly appreciated-Patrick
Budget? Freq range?
HP 8657As are good general-purpose SGs. Reliable, serviceable, and
reasonably clean. Avoid 8656s and 8660s IMHO unless you can get one for
next to nothing.
If you don't mind getting your hands dirty there have been some inexpensive
8662As on the surplus market lately. They are cleaner than most, have an
actual tuning knob, and include sweep capability. They are complex,
sometimes maintenance-intensive, and very hard to ship safely, and many of
the ones you find on eBay have lived hard lives.
-- john, KE5FX
> Hey everyone
>
> Sorry for the off topic post. I have received great advice in the past
> with items for my little shop and I can't resist to ask again.
>
> I am thinking about buying a signal generator. I suspect that I will
> mostly use it to inject low uV/mV signals into the amplification stages
> of the laboratory instruments I service.
>
> Any feedback you have would be greatly appreciated-Patrick
>
P
Patrick
Fri, Jun 19, 2009 12:41 PM
Thanks John
With regard to frequency and price, low frequency is fine for me and I
am hoping to buy something for < $250-Patrick
John Miles wrote:
Budget? Freq range?
HP 8657As are good general-purpose SGs. Reliable, serviceable, and
reasonably clean. Avoid 8656s and 8660s IMHO unless you can get one for
next to nothing.
If you don't mind getting your hands dirty there have been some inexpensive
8662As on the surplus market lately. They are cleaner than most, have an
actual tuning knob, and include sweep capability. They are complex,
sometimes maintenance-intensive, and very hard to ship safely, and many of
the ones you find on eBay have lived hard lives.
-- john, KE5FX
Hey everyone
Sorry for the off topic post. I have received great advice in the past
with items for my little shop and I can't resist to ask again.
I am thinking about buying a signal generator. I suspect that I will
mostly use it to inject low uV/mV signals into the amplification stages
of the laboratory instruments I service.
Any feedback you have would be greatly appreciated-Patrick
Thanks John
With regard to frequency and price, low frequency is fine for me and I
am hoping to buy something for < $250-Patrick
John Miles wrote:
> Budget? Freq range?
>
> HP 8657As are good general-purpose SGs. Reliable, serviceable, and
> reasonably clean. Avoid 8656s and 8660s IMHO unless you can get one for
> next to nothing.
>
> If you don't mind getting your hands dirty there have been some inexpensive
> 8662As on the surplus market lately. They are cleaner than most, have an
> actual tuning knob, and include sweep capability. They are complex,
> sometimes maintenance-intensive, and very hard to ship safely, and many of
> the ones you find on eBay have lived hard lives.
>
> -- john, KE5FX
>
>
>
>> Hey everyone
>>
>> Sorry for the off topic post. I have received great advice in the past
>> with items for my little shop and I can't resist to ask again.
>>
>> I am thinking about buying a signal generator. I suspect that I will
>> mostly use it to inject low uV/mV signals into the amplification stages
>> of the laboratory instruments I service.
>>
>> Any feedback you have would be greatly appreciated-Patrick
>>
>>
>
>
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Robert Darlington
Fri, Jun 19, 2009 1:13 PM
I just bought an HP 3325A synthesizer/function generator that I really like
(for some things anyway) in about that price range. What you get is
probably dependent on what YOU need though. This thing is pretty limited
but this particular one has the high voltage option so the output goes up to
40 volts up to 1MHz. It only goes to 20.99999999 Mhz (at up to 10V I
think) but for 99% of what I do that's just fine. It has a 10MHz external
reference which I hook to either an Rb osc or a Thunderbolt depending on
what I'm doing. It's pretty neat to see all the digits match between the
3325A and the 5335A counter. Of course, that's being clocked by the same
oscillator too.
Also, I noticed on some signal generators, dropping the output down to a few
mV distorts the signal. What I learned to do was send my signal out at
about 1 volt ((RMS or p2p, doesn't matter) and go through a step attenuator
to drop it back down so it comes out clean.
-Bob, N3XKB
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Patrick optomatic@rogers.com wrote:
Hey everyone
Sorry for the off topic post. I have received great advice in the past
with items for my little shop and I can't resist to ask again.
I am thinking about buying a signal generator. I suspect that I will
mostly use it to inject low uV/mV signals into the amplification stages
of the laboratory instruments I service.
Any feedback you have would be greatly appreciated-Patrick
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I just bought an HP 3325A synthesizer/function generator that I really like
(for some things anyway) in about that price range. What you get is
probably dependent on what YOU need though. This thing is pretty limited
but this particular one has the high voltage option so the output goes up to
40 volts up to 1MHz. It only goes to 20.99999999 Mhz (at up to 10V I
think) but for 99% of what I do that's just fine. It has a 10MHz external
reference which I hook to either an Rb osc or a Thunderbolt depending on
what I'm doing. It's pretty neat to see all the digits match between the
3325A and the 5335A counter. Of course, that's being clocked by the same
oscillator too.
Also, I noticed on some signal generators, dropping the output down to a few
mV distorts the signal. What I learned to do was send my signal out at
about 1 volt ((RMS or p2p, doesn't matter) and go through a step attenuator
to drop it back down so it comes out clean.
-Bob, N3XKB
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Patrick <optomatic@rogers.com> wrote:
> Hey everyone
>
> Sorry for the off topic post. I have received great advice in the past
> with items for my little shop and I can't resist to ask again.
>
> I am thinking about buying a signal generator. I suspect that I will
> mostly use it to inject low uV/mV signals into the amplification stages
> of the laboratory instruments I service.
>
> Any feedback you have would be greatly appreciated-Patrick
>
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optomatic@rogers.com
Fri, Jun 19, 2009 1:38 PM
Hey Robert
Great tip about the attenuator.
I looked up some models on the internet and some look fairly expensive.
I know that I will always be injecting low voltage signals, do you think
it would be wise to buy a cheaper fixed attenuator, let's say 20dB?, and
then just depend on the variable rate that the signal generator?
Thanks-Patrick
Robert Darlington wrote:
I just bought an HP 3325A synthesizer/function generator that I really like
(for some things anyway) in about that price range. What you get is
probably dependent on what YOU need though. This thing is pretty limited
but this particular one has the high voltage option so the output goes up to
40 volts up to 1MHz. It only goes to 20.99999999 Mhz (at up to 10V I
think) but for 99% of what I do that's just fine. It has a 10MHz external
reference which I hook to either an Rb osc or a Thunderbolt depending on
what I'm doing. It's pretty neat to see all the digits match between the
3325A and the 5335A counter. Of course, that's being clocked by the same
oscillator too.
Also, I noticed on some signal generators, dropping the output down to a few
mV distorts the signal. What I learned to do was send my signal out at
about 1 volt ((RMS or p2p, doesn't matter) and go through a step attenuator
to drop it back down so it comes out clean.
-Bob, N3XKB
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Patrick optomatic@rogers.com wrote:
Hey everyone
Sorry for the off topic post. I have received great advice in the past
with items for my little shop and I can't resist to ask again.
I am thinking about buying a signal generator. I suspect that I will
mostly use it to inject low uV/mV signals into the amplification stages
of the laboratory instruments I service.
Any feedback you have would be greatly appreciated-Patrick
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Hey Robert
Great tip about the attenuator.
I looked up some models on the internet and some look fairly expensive.
I know that I will always be injecting low voltage signals, do you think
it would be wise to buy a cheaper fixed attenuator, let's say 20dB?, and
then just depend on the variable rate that the signal generator?
Thanks-Patrick
Robert Darlington wrote:
> I just bought an HP 3325A synthesizer/function generator that I really like
> (for some things anyway) in about that price range. What you get is
> probably dependent on what YOU need though. This thing is pretty limited
> but this particular one has the high voltage option so the output goes up to
> 40 volts up to 1MHz. It only goes to 20.99999999 Mhz (at up to 10V I
> think) but for 99% of what I do that's just fine. It has a 10MHz external
> reference which I hook to either an Rb osc or a Thunderbolt depending on
> what I'm doing. It's pretty neat to see all the digits match between the
> 3325A and the 5335A counter. Of course, that's being clocked by the same
> oscillator too.
>
> Also, I noticed on some signal generators, dropping the output down to a few
> mV distorts the signal. What I learned to do was send my signal out at
> about 1 volt ((RMS or p2p, doesn't matter) and go through a step attenuator
> to drop it back down so it comes out clean.
>
> -Bob, N3XKB
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Patrick <optomatic@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Hey everyone
>>
>> Sorry for the off topic post. I have received great advice in the past
>> with items for my little shop and I can't resist to ask again.
>>
>> I am thinking about buying a signal generator. I suspect that I will
>> mostly use it to inject low uV/mV signals into the amplification stages
>> of the laboratory instruments I service.
>>
>> Any feedback you have would be greatly appreciated-Patrick
>>
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John Miles
Fri, Jun 19, 2009 1:57 PM
No distortion at low levels will occur with any signal generator worth
owning. Nothing from HP will do that.
-- john, KE5FX
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT favorite signal generator?
Hey Robert
Great tip about the attenuator.
I looked up some models on the internet and some look fairly expensive.
I know that I will always be injecting low voltage signals, do you think
it would be wise to buy a cheaper fixed attenuator, let's say 20dB?, and
then just depend on the variable rate that the signal generator?
Thanks-Patrick
Robert Darlington wrote:
I just bought an HP 3325A synthesizer/function generator that I
(for some things anyway) in about that price range. What you get is
probably dependent on what YOU need though. This thing is
but this particular one has the high voltage option so the
40 volts up to 1MHz. It only goes to 20.99999999 Mhz (at up to 10V I
think) but for 99% of what I do that's just fine. It has a
reference which I hook to either an Rb osc or a Thunderbolt depending on
what I'm doing. It's pretty neat to see all the digits match
3325A and the 5335A counter. Of course, that's being clocked
oscillator too.
Also, I noticed on some signal generators, dropping the output
mV distorts the signal. What I learned to do was send my signal out at
about 1 volt ((RMS or p2p, doesn't matter) and go through a
to drop it back down so it comes out clean.
-Bob, N3XKB
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Patrick optomatic@rogers.com wrote:
Hey everyone
Sorry for the off topic post. I have received great advice in the past
with items for my little shop and I can't resist to ask again.
I am thinking about buying a signal generator. I suspect that I will
mostly use it to inject low uV/mV signals into the amplification stages
of the laboratory instruments I service.
Any feedback you have would be greatly appreciated-Patrick
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No distortion at low levels will occur with any signal generator worth
owning. Nothing from HP will do that.
-- john, KE5FX
> -----Original Message-----
> From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com]On
> Behalf Of optomatic@rogers.com
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 6:39 AM
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT favorite signal generator?
>
>
> Hey Robert
>
> Great tip about the attenuator.
>
> I looked up some models on the internet and some look fairly expensive.
> I know that I will always be injecting low voltage signals, do you think
> it would be wise to buy a cheaper fixed attenuator, let's say 20dB?, and
> then just depend on the variable rate that the signal generator?
>
> Thanks-Patrick
>
> Robert Darlington wrote:
> > I just bought an HP 3325A synthesizer/function generator that I
> really like
> > (for some things anyway) in about that price range. What you get is
> > probably dependent on what YOU need though. This thing is
> pretty limited
> > but this particular one has the high voltage option so the
> output goes up to
> > 40 volts up to 1MHz. It only goes to 20.99999999 Mhz (at up to 10V I
> > think) but for 99% of what I do that's just fine. It has a
> 10MHz external
> > reference which I hook to either an Rb osc or a Thunderbolt depending on
> > what I'm doing. It's pretty neat to see all the digits match
> between the
> > 3325A and the 5335A counter. Of course, that's being clocked
> by the same
> > oscillator too.
> >
> > Also, I noticed on some signal generators, dropping the output
> down to a few
> > mV distorts the signal. What I learned to do was send my signal out at
> > about 1 volt ((RMS or p2p, doesn't matter) and go through a
> step attenuator
> > to drop it back down so it comes out clean.
> >
> > -Bob, N3XKB
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Patrick <optomatic@rogers.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Hey everyone
> >>
> >> Sorry for the off topic post. I have received great advice in the past
> >> with items for my little shop and I can't resist to ask again.
> >>
> >> I am thinking about buying a signal generator. I suspect that I will
> >> mostly use it to inject low uV/mV signals into the amplification stages
> >> of the laboratory instruments I service.
> >>
> >> Any feedback you have would be greatly appreciated-Patrick
> >>
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>
LJ
Lux, James P
Fri, Jun 19, 2009 2:10 PM
How accurate?
What frequency range?
What spectral performance (harmonics, spurs)?
One thing to watch out for on testing with very low level signals is leakage out of the signal generator and into the unit under test via a path other than the coax. When we test deep space transponders at work at very low levels (-160dBm), we actually use a signal generator at a different frequency and multiply it up externally (partly that's also because historically, the signal generator didn't go high enough (7.15 GHz).. But when you use a modern signal gen that does work at 7GHz, you've got to be more careful).
.. In any event, it doesn't take much to turn your careful and precise -160 into -159 or -161.
On 6/19/09 5:04 AM, "Patrick" optomatic@rogers.com wrote:
Hey everyone
Sorry for the off topic post. I have received great advice in the past
with items for my little shop and I can't resist to ask again.
I am thinking about buying a signal generator. I suspect that I will
mostly use it to inject low uV/mV signals into the amplification stages
of the laboratory instruments I service.
Any feedback you have would be greatly appreciated-Patrick
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How accurate?
What frequency range?
What spectral performance (harmonics, spurs)?
One thing to watch out for on testing with very low level signals is leakage out of the signal generator and into the unit under test via a path other than the coax. When we test deep space transponders at work at very low levels (-160dBm), we actually use a signal generator at a different frequency and multiply it up externally (partly that's also because historically, the signal generator didn't go high enough (7.15 GHz).. But when you use a modern signal gen that does work at 7GHz, you've got to be more careful).
.. In any event, it doesn't take much to turn your careful and precise -160 into -159 or -161.
On 6/19/09 5:04 AM, "Patrick" <optomatic@rogers.com> wrote:
Hey everyone
Sorry for the off topic post. I have received great advice in the past
with items for my little shop and I can't resist to ask again.
I am thinking about buying a signal generator. I suspect that I will
mostly use it to inject low uV/mV signals into the amplification stages
of the laboratory instruments I service.
Any feedback you have would be greatly appreciated-Patrick
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Lux, James P
Fri, Jun 19, 2009 2:19 PM
We use a lot of 3325As in the lab at JPL (they used to have dozens of them at the deep space network, so there are lots of them around). Some have the rear panel option that puts out a sine wave up to 60MHz, which is fairly convenient.
The settability with lots o' digits is nice (that's why they were used in DSN..).. Really a function generator with sine square triangle, and some modulation capability. You can also lock multiple 3325s together which is nice for generating things like I/Q signals with known errors in phase/amplitude, or with frequencies offset by 0.1 Hz (so it sweeps through all relative phases in 10 seconds), or clock signals with known skew (although something like an 8110 or it's newer brethren is nicer).
They're not super quiet
Depending on your needs, there might be better solutions. For a bit more money($600), you can get the TAPR Vector Network Analyzer from TenTec, which has a calibrated signal generator mode. In the few hundred dollar range, I've used a lot of eval boards from one source or another. Analog Devices has a whole bunch of DDS eval boards that take an external reference (always important for timenuts use) and with a small amount of work, you can calibrate them. National Semi has a whole bunch of PLL eval boards, if you need GHz kinds of frequencies.
On 6/19/09 6:13 AM, "Robert Darlington" rdarlington@gmail.com wrote:
I just bought an HP 3325A synthesizer/function generator that I really like
(for some things anyway) in about that price range. What you get is
probably dependent on what YOU need though. This thing is pretty limited
but this particular one has the high voltage option so the output goes up to
40 volts up to 1MHz. It only goes to 20.99999999 Mhz (at up to 10V I
think) but for 99% of what I do that's just fine. It has a 10MHz external
reference which I hook to either an Rb osc or a Thunderbolt depending on
what I'm doing. It's pretty neat to see all the digits match between the
3325A and the 5335A counter. Of course, that's being clocked by the same
oscillator too.
Also, I noticed on some signal generators, dropping the output down to a few
mV distorts the signal. What I learned to do was send my signal out at
about 1 volt ((RMS or p2p, doesn't matter) and go through a step attenuator
to drop it back down so it comes out clean.
-Bob, N3XKB
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Patrick optomatic@rogers.com wrote:
Hey everyone
Sorry for the off topic post. I have received great advice in the past
with items for my little shop and I can't resist to ask again.
I am thinking about buying a signal generator. I suspect that I will
mostly use it to inject low uV/mV signals into the amplification stages
of the laboratory instruments I service.
Any feedback you have would be greatly appreciated-Patrick
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We use a lot of 3325As in the lab at JPL (they used to have dozens of them at the deep space network, so there are lots of them around). Some have the rear panel option that puts out a sine wave up to 60MHz, which is fairly convenient.
The settability with lots o' digits is nice (that's why they were used in DSN..).. Really a function generator with sine square triangle, and some modulation capability. You can also lock multiple 3325s together which is nice for generating things like I/Q signals with known errors in phase/amplitude, or with frequencies offset by 0.1 Hz (so it sweeps through all relative phases in 10 seconds), or clock signals with known skew (although something like an 8110 or it's newer brethren is nicer).
They're not super quiet
Depending on your needs, there might be better solutions. For a bit more money($600), you can get the TAPR Vector Network Analyzer from TenTec, which has a calibrated signal generator mode. In the few hundred dollar range, I've used a lot of eval boards from one source or another. Analog Devices has a whole bunch of DDS eval boards that take an external reference (always important for timenuts use) and with a small amount of work, you can calibrate them. National Semi has a whole bunch of PLL eval boards, if you need GHz kinds of frequencies.
On 6/19/09 6:13 AM, "Robert Darlington" <rdarlington@gmail.com> wrote:
I just bought an HP 3325A synthesizer/function generator that I really like
(for some things anyway) in about that price range. What you get is
probably dependent on what YOU need though. This thing is pretty limited
but this particular one has the high voltage option so the output goes up to
40 volts up to 1MHz. It only goes to 20.99999999 Mhz (at up to 10V I
think) but for 99% of what I do that's just fine. It has a 10MHz external
reference which I hook to either an Rb osc or a Thunderbolt depending on
what I'm doing. It's pretty neat to see all the digits match between the
3325A and the 5335A counter. Of course, that's being clocked by the same
oscillator too.
Also, I noticed on some signal generators, dropping the output down to a few
mV distorts the signal. What I learned to do was send my signal out at
about 1 volt ((RMS or p2p, doesn't matter) and go through a step attenuator
to drop it back down so it comes out clean.
-Bob, N3XKB
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Patrick <optomatic@rogers.com> wrote:
> Hey everyone
>
> Sorry for the off topic post. I have received great advice in the past
> with items for my little shop and I can't resist to ask again.
>
> I am thinking about buying a signal generator. I suspect that I will
> mostly use it to inject low uV/mV signals into the amplification stages
> of the laboratory instruments I service.
>
> Any feedback you have would be greatly appreciated-Patrick
>
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Lux, James P
Fri, Jun 19, 2009 2:22 PM
Hey Robert
Great tip about the attenuator.
I looked up some models on the internet and some look fairly expensive.
I know that I will always be injecting low voltage signals, do you think
it would be wise to buy a cheaper fixed attenuator, let's say 20dB?, and
then just depend on the variable rate that the signal generator?
How precise does your level have to be? How stable?
There are surplus attenuators available all over the place, some variable
ones too.
MiniCircuits has VAT-nn attenuators which are relatively inexpensive (not by
"found it at a ham-fest 30 years ago" standards, though)
Building your own attenuator using chip resistors is another possibility.
On 6/19/09 6:38 AM, "optomatic@rogers.com" <optomatic@rogers.com> wrote:
> Hey Robert
>
> Great tip about the attenuator.
>
> I looked up some models on the internet and some look fairly expensive.
> I know that I will always be injecting low voltage signals, do you think
> it would be wise to buy a cheaper fixed attenuator, let's say 20dB?, and
> then just depend on the variable rate that the signal generator?
>
How precise does your level have to be? How stable?
There are surplus attenuators available all over the place, some variable
ones too.
MiniCircuits has VAT-nn attenuators which are relatively inexpensive (not by
"found it at a ham-fest 30 years ago" standards, though)
Building your own attenuator using chip resistors is another possibility.
SW
Stan W1LE
Fri, Jun 19, 2009 2:36 PM
Hello Pat,
Ebay could be your friend in locating a signal generator, as well as
researching availability and pricing.
My perspective is that Ebay is the big flea market in the ether
and you do not know what you got, till you get it on your test bench
and exercise it.
Bid accordingly, most dealers are simply junk/scrap dealers who buy the
stuff
by the pallet load and hope for a quick sale.
There are some used equipment dealers that will provide calibration and
a guarantee.
I have had decent luck selectively bidding on older obsolete
HP/Agilent/Fluke/TEK test gear.
Many manuals and other documents are available at the HP/Agilent
website, a tremendous resource.
Consider buying a second of a unit for a parts unit. Get them while you can.
The stuff I buy is clearly obsolete and not logistically supported by
the manufacturer.
I am happy with 80's and 90's vintage commercial test equipment.
Stan, W1LE Cape Cod
Hello Pat,
Ebay could be your friend in locating a signal generator, as well as
researching availability and pricing.
My perspective is that Ebay is the big flea market in the ether
and you do not know what you got, till you get it on your test bench
and exercise it.
Bid accordingly, most dealers are simply junk/scrap dealers who buy the
stuff
by the pallet load and hope for a quick sale.
There are some used equipment dealers that will provide calibration and
a guarantee.
I have had decent luck selectively bidding on older obsolete
HP/Agilent/Fluke/TEK test gear.
Many manuals and other documents are available at the HP/Agilent
website, a tremendous resource.
Consider buying a second of a unit for a parts unit. Get them while you can.
The stuff I buy is clearly obsolete and not logistically supported by
the manufacturer.
I am happy with 80's and 90's vintage commercial test equipment.
Stan, W1LE Cape Cod