List: trawlers@lists.trawlering.com
From: Scott H.E. Welch
Re: T&T: Connecting chain links - also some windlass & chain problems and solu
Fri, Aug 22, 2008 12:27 AM
R C Smith Jr writes:
>Scott, I think that is the size of 1/2 in Grade 43 ISO chain, not BBB, which
>is 17/32 in or .5313 in. If BBB, you should see it stamped in each link.
I have long suspected that this is a non-standard chain. I've just had a
close look and it is not stamped BBB. The diameter ranges from 0.540 to
0.545. It's only where the weld is that the diameter is greater. Does anybody
happen to know where the specs for BBB chain can be found? I had a quick look
with Google but could not find anything. If it's like most load-bearing
specifications, it will probably specify minimum sizes, not maximum sizes.
>
>Another check: BBB links are shorter to cut down on kinking in the chain
>locker. Inside length of 1/2 BBB is 1.34 in, Grade 40 is longer at 1.59 in.
Again, I just measured and the inside length is +/- 1.350. So it's definitely
not Grade 40.
>
>Non sequitur: If above is true, why did you fix work?
Well, it looks like I have some sort of non-standard chain, with larger
diameter links but still the BBB length.
Steven Dubnoff writes:
>I would say the big question here is why Ideal mis-designed in the
>gypsy in the first place, or, if the gypsy was ok for "standard"
>chain, why Ideal did not at least suggest that you measure your chain
>before selling you a new part.
Well, when I talked to Ideal they told me that this is the gypsy that they
had been selling since "before the war", and I don't think they meant the
Gulf War or even the Korean War. So I think that my chain is at fault, not
the gypsy. On the other hand, I can't see any reason that they don't open up
the slot a bit, but that's another discussion.
writes:
>You mean hundredths don't you? Decimal, tenths, hundredths, thousandths is
>the order.
Yep, thousandths.
>Any idea who made the chain?
Nope. It was on the boat when I bought it.
>If the chain is "normal" then it
>would be Ideal's fault. AT the prices quoted, in hindsight, it would have
>been cheaper to replace the chain
Well, 400 feet of 1/2 BBB will run me about $3200, so I'm still ahead. And
hey, I have a spare gypsy.
Scott Welch
FirstClass Product Manager
www.firstclass.com
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