wing cause: 15:33:55.738 tsx0x93b2664 State changed from Null to Calling, event=TX_MSG 15:33:55.738 pjsua_acc.c Registration sent * 15:33:55.738 pjsua_media.c Error retrieving default audio device parameters: Unable to find default audio device (PJMEDIA_EAUD_NODEFDEV) [status=420006] 15:33:55.738 APP Error making call: Unable to find default audio device (PJMEDIA_EAUD_NODEFDEV) [status=420006]* 15:33:55.738 pjsua_core.c Shutting down... 15:33:55.738 pjsua_pres.c Shutting down presence.. 15:33:55.738 pjsua_media.c Shutting down media.. 15:33:56.210 pa_dev.c PortAudio sound library shutting down.. 15:33:56.211 endpoint Request msg REGISTER/cseq=26593 (tdta0x939c150) created. 15:33:56.211 sip_reg.c Unable to send request, regc has another transaction pending Thank you

nd they recommended I install a new one of the right size. I informed them that this appeared to be the original CB, and was, therefore a latent defect. The engineer agreed, but said I had to take that up with the parts folks. The parts folks, after a little cajoling, sent me a new CB, despite the fact that I had no idea who sold or who had installed the unit into the Celestial. The genset was a long way out of warranty. I installed the CB and it has performed flawlessly ever since. They made me a happy customer/owner. Based upon my observations; how most customer service folks respond to problems is predicated by the manner in which the problem is presented to them. I usually try to "give them a reason to help me with MY problem". Doesn't always work the way I would like, but I have had success with companies when others have become extremely unhappy with the same folks. Always give credit where credit is due, especially within the company. In fact, one time, Ford refused to repair my 1965 Ford truck under warranty. It ran out of warranty on the ALCAN highway, heading south, and was about 700 miles over the warranty mileage when I got to the Ford place in Pasco, Washington. We had to stay overnight at the Alaska/Canadian Border and the instruments had all frozen and burned out/broke at minus 62 F when I started the engine (infrared propane heater under it for about an hour). Also, the shock absorbers blew all the oil out. The service manager called the Ford folks and really tried to get them to replace the instruments and shocks under warranty. I thanked the owner of the company for all the effort his service manager had put into trying to get Ford to replace everything. I was in the process of paying the bill - about $400 as I recall. The owner then called Ford. Ford covered all costs for the instruments under warranty, and for three new shock absorbers. Ford wouldn't pay for all four (????) Wayne M/V Celestial Albin 43 Sundeck

larly lets fly about these people who "...can't do in a million lines what we used to have to do in a hundred thousand...". I have to get her to calm down, or it begins to come across like "..walked 6 miles to school everyday, uphill both ways, in a blizzard....". Regards, John Gaquin Brefnie Queen, 32' Luhrs Bass River Marina, West Dennis, MA

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x is simply copying what they see other companies doing. You design a product, then get it built by cheap labor in a third world country for peanuts, pay a few pesos to have it shipped by container to some other part of the world where you can sell it for megabucks and retire with a fat profit. Repair consist of giving the customer another unit. After all that is cheaper than having to pay a tech $15 - $20 /hour who actually knows what he is doing. And of course the cheapest production assembly methods quite often mean it is also the most expensive to replace parts in. Rivets are cheaper than bolts, and so is spot welding. Glue is faster than screws, but not reversible. Surface mount chips and VLSI technology reduces parts count but means the whole board only cost $5 - $10v and is now a throw away item. As long as consumers insist on selecting consumer goods primarily on the basis of cheapest that is just barely good enough, we will never see a change. The mentality of planned obsolescence has helped create this state of affairs. We no longer expect or even want something to last 40 years. Most people expect to replace something in five years or less. We the consumers can only expect to change the state of affairs if we are willing to change our own mindset and social values. Cheers Arild --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - Release Date: 11/25/2002

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t all of the "me too" messages that have been posted on this topic. Best--Michael Oritt Durbeck 48--NAMASTE

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