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oilpans@thepoint.net

Mon, Dec 24, 2001 2:31 AM

Hi all,
First, hope the holidays are great for you all. Now, I put a small wet bar
on the bridge of ole Panhandler and I'm having a problem with the sink
draining. The drain is a 5/8" ID hose from the sink down thru the saon and
out a thru hull in the engine room. No kinks no obstructions and no kinked
hose. The dang thing will not drain. Water just stands there. Any ideas??
TIA
Cheers,
Dick

Dick Schroder
Pan Handler Gulfstar '43
Floating happily in Holmes Beach FL

This sure beats an Indiana winter WOW!

Hi all, First, hope the holidays are great for you all. Now, I put a small wet bar on the bridge of ole Panhandler and I'm having a problem with the sink draining. The drain is a 5/8" ID hose from the sink down thru the saon and out a thru hull in the engine room. No kinks no obstructions and no kinked hose. The dang thing will not drain. Water just stands there. Any ideas?? TIA Cheers, Dick Dick Schroder Pan Handler Gulfstar '43 Floating happily in Holmes Beach FL This sure beats an Indiana winter WOW!

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kimeric@seanet.com

Mon, Dec 24, 2001 3:18 AM

The drain is a 5/8" ID hose from the sink down thru the saon and
out a thru hull in the engine room. No kinks no obstructions and no kinked
hose. The dang thing will not drain. Water just stands there.

I love it! I am the absolute worst plumber in America...but I may know the
answer from having the same experience. You have an air lock. You have too
small of a drain and you bought a boat sink from West Marine which does not
have an overflow drain (like your house bathroom sink has). The over flow
drain breaks the airlock. It is not there just for people who run the water
too long.

Try stirring the water with your finger and see if that breaks the lock and
causes the water to drain. If not, I'm wrong and you have a bigger problem.

I hope that this elicits other responses so that we can find out who the
plumbers on the List are.

FYI, Kim cannot figure out why I have not installed P traps under our sinks.
She thought that their purpose was to catch her contact lenses! Ouch! I
guess that she heard that...

Eric Thoman
www.seanet.com/~kimeric

>The drain is a 5/8" ID hose from the sink down thru the saon and > out a thru hull in the engine room. No kinks no obstructions and no kinked > hose. The dang thing will not drain. Water just stands there. I love it! I am the absolute worst plumber in America...but I may know the answer from having the same experience. You have an air lock. You have too small of a drain and you bought a boat sink from West Marine which does not have an overflow drain (like your house bathroom sink has). The over flow drain breaks the airlock. It is not there just for people who run the water too long. Try stirring the water with your finger and see if that breaks the lock and causes the water to drain. If not, I'm wrong and you have a bigger problem. I hope that this elicits other responses so that we can find out who the plumbers on the List are. FYI, Kim cannot figure out why I have not installed P traps under our sinks. She thought that their purpose was to catch her contact lenses! Ouch! I guess that she heard that... Eric Thoman www.seanet.com/~kimeric

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scaramouche@tvo.org

Mon, Dec 24, 2001 3:41 PM

oilpans@thepoint.net writes:

First, hope the holidays are great for you all. Now, I put a small
wet bar
on the bridge of ole Panhandler and I'm having a problem with the
sink
draining. The drain is a 5/8" ID hose from the sink down thru the
saon and
out a thru hull in the engine room. No kinks no obstructions and no
kinked
hose. The dang thing will not drain. Water just stands there. Any
ideas??

Hmm, a few days ago somebody on the list had drainage problem and
found a plastic banana stuck in the hose. Have you checked all your
plastic toys, fruits etc to see if anything is missing?

Merry Christmas from Scaramouche

oilpans@thepoint.net writes: >First, hope the holidays are great for you all. Now, I put a small >wet bar >on the bridge of ole Panhandler and I'm having a problem with the >sink >draining. The drain is a 5/8" ID hose from the sink down thru the >saon and >out a thru hull in the engine room. No kinks no obstructions and no >kinked >hose. The dang thing will not drain. Water just stands there. Any >ideas?? Hmm, a few days ago somebody on the list had drainage problem and found a plastic banana stuck in the hose. Have you checked all your plastic toys, fruits etc to see if anything is missing? Merry Christmas from Scaramouche

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arider@bellsouth.net

Tue, Dec 25, 2001 5:29 PM

No kinks no obstructions and no kinked
hose. The dang thing will not drain. Water just stands there. Any ideas??

Dick,
It wasn't clear as to where the water stands. If it stands in the
sink...you must have an obstruction, kink or the seacock is closed. The
water will drain from the sink as low as the waterline of the boat, if the
through hull is below the waterline. If the through hull is above the
waterline the water will drain completely out. The only way the water will
not drain is if air cannot follow the water out or there is an obstruction.
A vent, such as in home plumbing is for venting the methane and even though
it allows water to drain more freely, water would drain anyway without the
vent...making a bubbling sound as it departed. The trap is designed to
retain a small amount of water to keep the methane from entering the house
instead of going up the vent to the roof. Toilets have built in traps in
the casting. The overflow hole in a sink and in the bathtub are for
overflow as well as allowing air to follow the water out and make the
draining process faster and quieter but not necessary for the water to
drain.
If the top and bottom of a hose is open and it is lower on the bottom,
gravity will do the rest.
In plumbing you need to know one simple rule.......S__T always runs
downhill.... however on our boats we are constantly trying to make it run
uphill??:>{

Bob Clinkenbeard
M/Y Twin Screws
1964 Chris Craft Roamer 56'
Under reconstruction in Savannah
http://www.snapfish.com/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=3446862/t_=7199

>No kinks no obstructions and no kinked > hose. The dang thing will not drain. Water just stands there. Any ideas?? __________________________________ Dick, It wasn't clear as to where the water stands. If it stands in the sink...you must have an obstruction, kink or the seacock is closed. The water will drain from the sink as low as the waterline of the boat, if the through hull is below the waterline. If the through hull is above the waterline the water will drain completely out. The only way the water will not drain is if air cannot follow the water out or there is an obstruction. A vent, such as in home plumbing is for venting the methane and even though it allows water to drain more freely, water would drain anyway without the vent...making a bubbling sound as it departed. The trap is designed to retain a small amount of water to keep the methane from entering the house instead of going up the vent to the roof. Toilets have built in traps in the casting. The overflow hole in a sink and in the bathtub are for overflow as well as allowing air to follow the water out and make the draining process faster and quieter but not necessary for the water to drain. If the top and bottom of a hose is open and it is lower on the bottom, gravity will do the rest. In plumbing you need to know one simple rule.......S__T always runs downhill.... however on our boats we are constantly trying to make it run uphill??:>{ Bob Clinkenbeard M/Y Twin Screws 1964 Chris Craft Roamer 56' Under reconstruction in Savannah http://www.snapfish.com/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=3446862/t_=7199

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