This morning seen at East Granby Farms Worm Eating Warbler. Since the species as far as I know does not nest in the immediate area it is a sign that this species is already starting to move.

Paul Desjardins
Windsor Locks

Isn't movement at this stage known as "post-breeding dispersal"?

Roy Harvey
Beacon Falls, CT

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This morning seen at East Granby Farms Worm Eating Warbler. Since the species as far as I know does not nest in the immediate area it is a sign that this species is already starting to move.

Paul Desjardins

Windsor Locks

Hi Roy,

Not for passerines. Some passerines are already heading south...  Herons do post-breeding...

Frank Gallo

Life is short. Bird often.

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Isn't movement at this stage known as "post-breeding dispersal"?

Roy Harvey
Beacon Falls, CT

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This morning seen at East Granby Farms Worm Eating Warbler. Since the species as far as I know does not nest in the immediate area it is a sign that this species is already starting to move.

Paul Desjardins

Windsor Locks

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Greg Hanisek responded to me but he meant to send it to everyone.

This to me is a difficult question and one that makes this time of year very interesting. The two concepts are somewhat fluid. Classic post-breeding dispersal is, for example, what occur with herons, egrets and other long-legged waders. Their breeding season is over at a time when there are no temperature or food constraints that would make them undertake strict directional migration to more favorable climes. In addition, the young are in heavy concentrations around breeding colonies. Taking all that into account, they're free to wander off in any direction for the next few months. Hence the Great Egret that suddenly appears in your backyard goldfish pond.
Things are not so clear with many other species, especially passerines. We're at the time where songbirds start showing up in places where we know they didn't breed. The question is: Did they disperse from breeding spots not too far away, or have they already begun migration that fits its definition - seasonal, predictable and annual. I don't think there's any way to be sure in most cases until we start seeing species that we know nested a significant distance away (Olive-sided Flycatcher, Tennessee Warbler etc). 
Another way (a favorite of mine) is to go some place where you can watch visible migration, such as Lighthouse Point in New Haven. A cold front at this time of year can produce obvious directional movement (migration) of species such as Bobolinks, Eastern Kingbirds and swallows.
Greg HanisekWaterbury

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Isn't movement at this stage known as "post-breeding dispersal"?

Roy Harvey
Beacon Falls, CT

From: Paul Desjardins via CTBirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
To: Connecticut Ornithological Association ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 1:48 PM
Subject: [CT Birds] Passerine movement starting

This morning seen at East Granby Farms Worm Eating Warbler. Since the species as far as I know does not nest in the immediate area it is a sign that this species is already starting to move.

Paul Desjardins

Windsor Locks

Very well put. Thanks

Frank
 
Life is short. Bird often.

On Monday, July 10, 2017 Roy Harvey via CTBirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org wrote:
Greg Hanisek responded to me but he meant to send it to everyone. --- This to me is a difficult question and one that makes this time of year very interesting. The two concepts are somewhat fluid. Classic post-breeding dispersal is, for example, what occur with herons, egrets and other long-legged waders. Their breeding season is over at a time when there are no temperature or food constraints that would make them undertake strict directional migration to more favorable climes. In addition, the young are in heavy concentrations around breeding colonies. Taking all that into account, they're free to wander off in any direction for the next few months. Hence the Great Egret that suddenly appears in your backyard goldfish pond. Things are not so clear with many other species, especially passerines. We're at the time where songbirds start showing up in places where we know they didn't breed. The question is: Did they disperse from breeding spots not too far away, or have they already begun migration that fits its definition - seasonal, predictable and annual. I don't think there's any way to be sure in most cases until we start seeing species that we know nested a significant distance away (Olive-sided Flycatcher, Tennessee Warbler etc).  Another way (a favorite of mine) is to go some place where you can watch visible migration, such as Lighthouse Point in New Haven. A cold front at this time of year can produce obvious directional movement (migration) of species such as Bobolinks, Eastern Kingbirds and swallows. Greg HanisekWaterbury From: Roy Harvey via CTBirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org To: Paul Desjardins paul.desjardins2@gmail.com; Connecticut Ornithological Association ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Passerine movement starting Isn't movement at this stage known as "post-breeding dispersal"? Roy Harvey Beacon Falls, CT ________________________________ From: Paul Desjardins via CTBirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org To: Connecticut Ornithological Association ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 1:48 PM Subject: [CT Birds] Passerine movement starting This morning seen at East Granby Farms Worm Eating Warbler. Since the species as far as I know does not nest in the immediate area it is a sign that this species is already starting to move. Paul Desjardins Windsor Locks _______________________________________________ This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org