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Re: T&T: Green/red buoy

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GHechtman@aol.com
Thu, Aug 25, 2005 1:41 AM

Kevin, if you have the bound, blue cover version go to Q page 73
"Supplementary National Symbols" section h.
Shows BR, RG and GR, G  "Bifurcation, Junction, isolated  danger, Wreck, and
Obstruction buoys" Section l shows the corresponding beacons.

George

Kevin, if you have the bound, blue cover version go to Q page 73 "Supplementary National Symbols" section h. Shows BR, RG and GR, G "Bifurcation, Junction, isolated danger, Wreck, and Obstruction buoys" Section l shows the corresponding beacons. George
KR
Kevin Redden
Thu, Aug 25, 2005 2:03 AM

Kevin, if you have the bound, blue cover version go to Q page 73
"Supplementary National Symbols" section h.
Shows BR, RG and GR, G  "Bifurcation, Junction, isolated danger, Wreck,
and Obstruction buoys" Section l shows the corresponding beacons.

George & Marin,

Don't ever confuse a wreck or isolated danger buoy with a junction buoy. The
section of Chart No.1 that you cited had grouped the different buoys
together, including wreck and isolated danger buoys, just to show the chart
symbols for various buoys, not to ever imply that a red over green buoy was
a danger buoy.  You had to carefully read what the section meant, along with
the details provided later on in Chart No.1 for the various buoy types. They
never intended to show that a black over red buoy was a junction buoy.

Only two of the five buoys pictured in my copy (or 2 of 4 pictured on
Marin's reference)of that section were junction buoys, the remaining three
(or 2 in Marin's reference) were certainly not the red/green/red or
green/red/green junctions buoys that were being discussed. Note carefully
the colors being shown, including the solid green can buoy pictured.

If you go some 21 pages further in, they give a much clearer and in-depth
treatment of junction buoys. Two pages further in they cover the isolated
danger buoys. Also, note the isolated danger buoy is black over red (even on
Marin's reference), and has two top balls, and certainly is not a junction
buoy.

Be careful how you (mis)read Chart No.1 information!

Kevin

> Kevin, if you have the bound, blue cover version go to Q page 73 > "Supplementary National Symbols" section h. > Shows BR, RG and GR, G "Bifurcation, Junction, isolated danger, Wreck, > and Obstruction buoys" Section l shows the corresponding beacons. George & Marin, Don't ever confuse a wreck or isolated danger buoy with a junction buoy. The section of Chart No.1 that you cited had grouped the different buoys together, including wreck and isolated danger buoys, just to show the chart symbols for various buoys, not to ever imply that a red over green buoy was a danger buoy. You had to carefully read what the section meant, along with the details provided later on in Chart No.1 for the various buoy types. They never intended to show that a black over red buoy was a junction buoy. Only two of the five buoys pictured in my copy (or 2 of 4 pictured on Marin's reference)of that section were junction buoys, the remaining three (or 2 in Marin's reference) were certainly not the red/green/red or green/red/green junctions buoys that were being discussed. Note carefully the colors being shown, including the solid green can buoy pictured. If you go some 21 pages further in, they give a much clearer and in-depth treatment of junction buoys. Two pages further in they cover the isolated danger buoys. Also, note the isolated danger buoy is black over red (even on Marin's reference), and has two top balls, and certainly is not a junction buoy. Be careful how you (mis)read Chart No.1 information! Kevin
FB
Frank Burrows
Thu, Aug 25, 2005 2:15 AM

The page that Kevin refers to is

http://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/chart1/indicies/IALA.pdf

Frank Burrows

If you go some 21 pages further in, they give a much clearer and in-depth
treatment of junction buoys. Two pages further in they cover the isolated
danger buoys. Also, note the isolated danger buoy is black over red (even on
Marin's reference), and has two top balls, and certainly is not a junction
buoy.

The page that Kevin refers to is http://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/chart1/indicies/IALA.pdf Frank Burrows >If you go some 21 pages further in, they give a much clearer and in-depth >treatment of junction buoys. Two pages further in they cover the isolated >danger buoys. Also, note the isolated danger buoy is black over red (even on >Marin's reference), and has two top balls, and certainly is not a junction >buoy.
JF
John Ford
Thu, Aug 25, 2005 2:25 AM

Hey, all I know it's not Chart 1 and all but this is pretty good
website I stumbled across..  http://safetyafloat.ca/olcmod3.html
On Aug 24, 2005, at 10:15 PM, Frank Burrows wrote:

The page that Kevin refers to is

http://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/chart1/indicies/IALA.pdf

Frank Burrows

If you go some 21 pages further in, they give a much clearer and
in-depth
treatment of junction buoys. Two pages further in they cover the
isolated
danger buoys. Also, note the isolated danger buoy is black over
red (even on
Marin's reference), and has two top balls, and certainly is not a
junction
buoy.


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Hey, all I know it's not Chart 1 and all but this is pretty good website I stumbled across.. http://safetyafloat.ca/olcmod3.html On Aug 24, 2005, at 10:15 PM, Frank Burrows wrote: > The page that Kevin refers to is > > http://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/chart1/indicies/IALA.pdf > > Frank Burrows > > >> If you go some 21 pages further in, they give a much clearer and >> in-depth >> treatment of junction buoys. Two pages further in they cover the >> isolated >> danger buoys. Also, note the isolated danger buoy is black over >> red (even on >> Marin's reference), and has two top balls, and certainly is not a >> junction >> buoy. >> > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe send email to > trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com with the word > UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.