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Re: [time-nuts] Unified VCXO Carrier Board

BG
Bruce Griffiths
Mon, Oct 26, 2015 1:27 AM

On Sunday, October 25, 2015 11:56:13 PM Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:

Am 24.10.2015 um 22:21 schrieb Bruce Griffiths:

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 09:03:21 AM Charles Steinmetz wrote:

The spec sheet says both TimePod inputs accept -5 to +20dBm into

50

ohms.  -5dBm is less than 0.4Vp-p, which requires less than +/-4mA
from the source, so a 0-5v comparator output feeding a
capacitor and a 560 ohm series resistor should work fine as long as
the comparator can source and sink at least 4mA.

The fly in the ointment is that with such low level inputs (the LTC6957-4
evaluation board will deliver +4dBm into 50 ohm) the Timepod phase

noise

floor is uncomfortably close to the phase noise floor of the LTC6957.

Alternatively, a 0-5v comparator output could be buffered with three
'AC04 inverters in parallel, or an 'AC line driver -- but that adds s
the PN of the gates.

Not if one uses a pair of drivers one to drive the Timepod Ch0 input

and

one to drive the Timepod CH2 input.

It would perhaps be useful to measure the PN characteristics of

several

comparators and other sine to square converter circuits using a

Timepod

or equivalent.

For the sake of repeatability, could we agree on a common setup?
Timepod would be ok for me. Levels, sources, filters, splitters...

regards, Gerhard


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I'll start another thread on this initially detailing how I measured the PN of
the LT6957-4.

Bruce

On Sunday, October 25, 2015 11:56:13 PM Gerhard Hoffmann wrote: > Am 24.10.2015 um 22:21 schrieb Bruce Griffiths: > > On Saturday, October 24, 2015 09:03:21 AM Charles Steinmetz wrote: > >> The spec sheet says both TimePod inputs accept -5 to +20dBm into 50 > >> ohms. -5dBm is less than 0.4Vp-p, which requires less than +/-4mA > >> from the source, so a 0-5v comparator output feeding a > >> capacitor and a 560 ohm series resistor should work fine as long as > >> the comparator can source and sink at least 4mA. > > > > The fly in the ointment is that with such low level inputs (the LTC6957-4 > > evaluation board will deliver +4dBm into 50 ohm) the Timepod phase noise > > floor is uncomfortably close to the phase noise floor of the LTC6957. > > > >> Alternatively, a 0-5v comparator output could be buffered with three > >> 'AC04 inverters in parallel, or an 'AC line driver -- but that adds s > >> the PN of the gates. > > > > Not if one uses a pair of drivers one to drive the Timepod Ch0 input and > > one to drive the Timepod CH2 input. > > > > It would perhaps be useful to measure the PN characteristics of several > > comparators and other sine to square converter circuits using a Timepod > > or equivalent. > > For the sake of repeatability, could we agree on a common setup? > Timepod would be ok for me. Levels, sources, filters, splitters... > > regards, Gerhard > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the > instructions there. Gerhard I'll start another thread on this initially detailing how I measured the PN of the LT6957-4. Bruce