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TJ
Tim Johnson
Wed, Oct 31, 2007 12:03 AM

My wife and I are the purchasers of a Nordhavn 64, which is on board a
freighter bound from Taiwan to the U.S.  We had planned to have the boat
commissioned in Dana Point, Nordhavn's headquarters, but the option now
presents itself to have commissioning done in Seattle at Emerald Harbor
Marine.  We are considering the Seattle option because we want to cruise
Alaska next summer and we would thus avoid the run from Dana Point to
Seattle next April or May, plus avoid "hanging around" northern Mexico for a
couple of months or so between completion of commissioning  in Dana Point
and suitable weather for the transit north.  Our electronics are being
installed by Alcom Marine, which has stated its preference for Dana Point,
because of its proximity.

I'd be interested in hearing your candid assessments of the capabilities of
Emerald Harbor Marine.  If you want to respond "offline," please do so to me
at tim@timandclair.com.

All such communications will be held in strictest confidence by me.

Unfortunately, I must make my decision no later than tomorrow, so a prompt
response would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Timothy A. Johnson, Jr.

895 Espinosa Road

Woodside, CA 94062-4803

tim@timandclair.com

My wife and I are the purchasers of a Nordhavn 64, which is on board a freighter bound from Taiwan to the U.S. We had planned to have the boat commissioned in Dana Point, Nordhavn's headquarters, but the option now presents itself to have commissioning done in Seattle at Emerald Harbor Marine. We are considering the Seattle option because we want to cruise Alaska next summer and we would thus avoid the run from Dana Point to Seattle next April or May, plus avoid "hanging around" northern Mexico for a couple of months or so between completion of commissioning in Dana Point and suitable weather for the transit north. Our electronics are being installed by Alcom Marine, which has stated its preference for Dana Point, because of its proximity. I'd be interested in hearing your candid assessments of the capabilities of Emerald Harbor Marine. If you want to respond "offline," please do so to me at tim@timandclair.com. All such communications will be held in strictest confidence by me. Unfortunately, I must make my decision no later than tomorrow, so a prompt response would be appreciated. Thanks. Timothy A. Johnson, Jr. 895 Espinosa Road Woodside, CA 94062-4803 tim@timandclair.com
BM
Bob Miller
Wed, Oct 31, 2007 12:12 AM

Emerald Harbor has a good reputation in Seattle.

We have a friend who just finished delivery of an Alaskan 64 and the work
was good.

I just finished an Alaskan 62 flushdeck at Seattle Yacht Service and found
its work excellent. I have been using Seattle Yacht Service for ten years
and recommend them.

Bob Miller
Anacortes, WA
Loon Song, Alaskan 62

-----Original Message-----
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Tim Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:03 PM
To: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com
Subject: [PUP] Emerald Harbor Marina - Seattle

My wife and I are the purchasers of a Nordhavn 64, which is on board a
freighter bound from Taiwan to the U.S.  We had planned to have the boat
commissioned in Dana Point, Nordhavn's headquarters, but the option now
presents itself to have commissioning done in Seattle at Emerald Harbor
Marine.  We are considering the Seattle option because we want to cruise
Alaska next summer and we would thus avoid the run from Dana Point to
Seattle next April or May, plus avoid "hanging around" northern Mexico for a
couple of months or so between completion of commissioning  in Dana Point
and suitable weather for the transit north.  Our electronics are being
installed by Alcom Marine, which has stated its preference for Dana Point,
because of its proximity.

I'd be interested in hearing your candid assessments of the capabilities of
Emerald Harbor Marine.  If you want to respond "offline," please do so to me
at tim@timandclair.com.

All such communications will be held in strictest confidence by me.

Unfortunately, I must make my decision no later than tomorrow, so a prompt
response would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Timothy A. Johnson, Jr.

895 Espinosa Road

Woodside, CA 94062-4803

tim@timandclair.com


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Emerald Harbor has a good reputation in Seattle. We have a friend who just finished delivery of an Alaskan 64 and the work was good. I just finished an Alaskan 62 flushdeck at Seattle Yacht Service and found its work excellent. I have been using Seattle Yacht Service for ten years and recommend them. Bob Miller Anacortes, WA Loon Song, Alaskan 62 -----Original Message----- From: passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Tim Johnson Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:03 PM To: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com Subject: [PUP] Emerald Harbor Marina - Seattle My wife and I are the purchasers of a Nordhavn 64, which is on board a freighter bound from Taiwan to the U.S. We had planned to have the boat commissioned in Dana Point, Nordhavn's headquarters, but the option now presents itself to have commissioning done in Seattle at Emerald Harbor Marine. We are considering the Seattle option because we want to cruise Alaska next summer and we would thus avoid the run from Dana Point to Seattle next April or May, plus avoid "hanging around" northern Mexico for a couple of months or so between completion of commissioning in Dana Point and suitable weather for the transit north. Our electronics are being installed by Alcom Marine, which has stated its preference for Dana Point, because of its proximity. I'd be interested in hearing your candid assessments of the capabilities of Emerald Harbor Marine. If you want to respond "offline," please do so to me at tim@timandclair.com. All such communications will be held in strictest confidence by me. Unfortunately, I must make my decision no later than tomorrow, so a prompt response would be appreciated. Thanks. Timothy A. Johnson, Jr. 895 Espinosa Road Woodside, CA 94062-4803 tim@timandclair.com _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power To unsubscribe send email to passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions.
SB
Scott Bulger
Wed, Oct 31, 2007 12:32 AM

If you land the boat in WA and keep it there 6 months you will be liable for
WA use tax.  Are you going to keep it in WA?  If so, go ahead, and pay the
tax, otherwise the tax savings alone will pay for 3 deliveries up the coast
and back, and back...

Scott Bulger

Regarding Alcom, If their common practice for installing VHF antenna mounts
is to simply drill through the top layer of fiberglass, and then thread
machine bolts into it with a little 5200 as a sealant, I'd take my business
elsewhere.  That was what I experienced with my boat, but I'm not sure who
did the antenna mount install, so it may not be fair to pin it on Alcom.  I
had other Nordhavn owners tell me they had Alcom install their antennas and
this was the technique used on their boats.

Regarding Emerald Harbor.  I've purchased 90% of my electronics from them in
the last 2 years but I've done all the installations myself.  Dan, one of
their techs did troubleshoot a windless problem I had and I found Dan to be
a wonderful person to work with.  I'd get in touch with Dean on Segue
because I've seen his boat at their docks for months.  Good luck!

If you land the boat in WA and keep it there 6 months you will be liable for WA use tax. Are you going to keep it in WA? If so, go ahead, and pay the tax, otherwise the tax savings alone will pay for 3 deliveries up the coast and back, and back... Scott Bulger Regarding Alcom, If their common practice for installing VHF antenna mounts is to simply drill through the top layer of fiberglass, and then thread machine bolts into it with a little 5200 as a sealant, I'd take my business elsewhere. That was what I experienced with my boat, but I'm not sure who did the antenna mount install, so it may not be fair to pin it on Alcom. I had other Nordhavn owners tell me they had Alcom install their antennas and this was the technique used on their boats. Regarding Emerald Harbor. I've purchased 90% of my electronics from them in the last 2 years but I've done all the installations myself. Dan, one of their techs did troubleshoot a windless problem I had and I found Dan to be a wonderful person to work with. I'd get in touch with Dean on Segue because I've seen his boat at their docks for months. Good luck!
HW
Hal Wyman
Wed, Oct 31, 2007 12:35 AM

I've been boating in Seattle for over 50 years and I thought I knew most of
the yards but I've never heard of them nor any of their principals.  The
fact that their office is at Elliot Bay Marina, a marina that is very strict
about allowing repair work to take place, raises another concern for me.

On the other hand, if Nordhavn recommended them I would feel comfortable.

Hal

-----Original Message-----
From: passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com]
On Behalf Of Tim Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:03 PM
To: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com
Subject: [PUP] Emerald Harbor Marina - Seattle

My wife and I are the purchasers of a Nordhavn 64, which is
on board a freighter bound from Taiwan to the U.S.  We had
planned to have the boat commissioned in Dana Point,
Nordhavn's headquarters, but the option now presents itself
to have commissioning done in Seattle at Emerald Harbor
Marine.  We are considering the Seattle option because we
want to cruise Alaska next summer and we would thus avoid the
run from Dana Point to Seattle next April or May, plus avoid
"hanging around" northern Mexico for a couple of months or so
between completion of commissioning  in Dana Point and
suitable weather for the transit north.  Our electronics are
being installed by Alcom Marine, which has stated its
preference for Dana Point, because of its proximity.

I'd be interested in hearing your candid assessments of the
capabilities of Emerald Harbor Marine.  If you want to
respond "offline," please do so to me at tim@timandclair.com.

All such communications will be held in strictest confidence by me.

Unfortunately, I must make my decision no later than
tomorrow, so a prompt response would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Timothy A. Johnson, Jr.

895 Espinosa Road

Woodside, CA 94062-4803

tim@timandclair.com


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I've been boating in Seattle for over 50 years and I thought I knew most of the yards but I've never heard of them nor any of their principals. The fact that their office is at Elliot Bay Marina, a marina that is very strict about allowing repair work to take place, raises another concern for me. On the other hand, if Nordhavn recommended them I would feel comfortable. Hal > -----Original Message----- > From: passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com > [mailto:passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com] > On Behalf Of Tim Johnson > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:03 PM > To: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com > Subject: [PUP] Emerald Harbor Marina - Seattle > > My wife and I are the purchasers of a Nordhavn 64, which is > on board a freighter bound from Taiwan to the U.S. We had > planned to have the boat commissioned in Dana Point, > Nordhavn's headquarters, but the option now presents itself > to have commissioning done in Seattle at Emerald Harbor > Marine. We are considering the Seattle option because we > want to cruise Alaska next summer and we would thus avoid the > run from Dana Point to Seattle next April or May, plus avoid > "hanging around" northern Mexico for a couple of months or so > between completion of commissioning in Dana Point and > suitable weather for the transit north. Our electronics are > being installed by Alcom Marine, which has stated its > preference for Dana Point, because of its proximity. > > > > I'd be interested in hearing your candid assessments of the > capabilities of Emerald Harbor Marine. If you want to > respond "offline," please do so to me at tim@timandclair.com. > > All such communications will be held in strictest confidence by me. > > > > Unfortunately, I must make my decision no later than > tomorrow, so a prompt response would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Timothy A. Johnson, Jr. > > 895 Espinosa Road > > Woodside, CA 94062-4803 > > tim@timandclair.com > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power > > To unsubscribe send email to > passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the > word UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of > the message. > > Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water > World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions.
PP
Peter Pisciotta
Wed, Oct 31, 2007 1:21 AM

Tim - When I was an active delivery captain, I did a
lot of work with PAE/Nordhavn. I like and respect
their boats, but especially the people. And I've
worked with Robert at Alcom at few times (quite the
character).

That being said, I personally would be wary about
having commissioning done by a 3rd party - even if
it's an extremely good one (I don't know the yard you
mentioned). There will be a lot of odds and ends to
repair, many items that won't work, many connections
that fail. My guess is you'll have a lot of money into
the electronics, and the tab will be running with the
yard (even though PAE will be footing the bill). Your
boat will take multiple sea trials to get everything
straight - and make sure everything is WORKING AS
DESIGNED before taking off. WxFax receives properly,
computer interfaces are working properly, all TV
monitors are correct, all screens are properly
configured, all GPSs read on all displays and
repeaters, all the sensors read out as designed (wind,
speed, depth, etc - sometimes these do not interface
into nav software) etc.

That being said, my experience with PAE was they were
good for their word - they'll fly repair people all
over as needed. But it's still a hassle to arrange.
It's better to get it as straight as possible right up
front.

And the trip north is no more than 8-days. Nothing, in
the big scheme of things.

And Scott B made an excellent point on tax - having
the work done in California buys you more time.

Just my opinion - but I would strongly recommend
having the yacht commissioned in Dana Point.

Best success Tim -

Peter
www.SeaSkills.com

Tim - When I was an active delivery captain, I did a lot of work with PAE/Nordhavn. I like and respect their boats, but especially the people. And I've worked with Robert at Alcom at few times (quite the character). That being said, I personally would be wary about having commissioning done by a 3rd party - even if it's an extremely good one (I don't know the yard you mentioned). There will be a lot of odds and ends to repair, many items that won't work, many connections that fail. My guess is you'll have a lot of money into the electronics, and the tab will be running with the yard (even though PAE will be footing the bill). Your boat will take multiple sea trials to get everything straight - and make sure everything is WORKING AS DESIGNED before taking off. WxFax receives properly, computer interfaces are working properly, all TV monitors are correct, all screens are properly configured, all GPSs read on all displays and repeaters, all the sensors read out as designed (wind, speed, depth, etc - sometimes these do not interface into nav software) etc. That being said, my experience with PAE was they were good for their word - they'll fly repair people all over as needed. But it's still a hassle to arrange. It's better to get it as straight as possible right up front. And the trip north is no more than 8-days. Nothing, in the big scheme of things. And Scott B made an excellent point on tax - having the work done in California buys you more time. Just my opinion - but I would strongly recommend having the yacht commissioned in Dana Point. Best success Tim - Peter www.SeaSkills.com
SD
Steven Dubnoff
Wed, Oct 31, 2007 3:29 AM

I have had exactly one experience with Emerald Harbor.  I had them
make me a pair of six foot inverter cables.  That, as everyone knows,
is a rather simple job that only requires the proper tools to
perform.  As I recall, they charged me about 200 bucks (!) and a
month or two later, one of the terminals fell off.

This was four or five years ago, maybe things have improved, but, if
they can't make a battery cable?????

Best,

Steve

Steve Dubnoff
1966 Willard Pilothouse
www.mvnereid.com
sdubnoff@circlesys.com

I have had exactly one experience with Emerald Harbor. I had them make me a pair of six foot inverter cables. That, as everyone knows, is a rather simple job that only requires the proper tools to perform. As I recall, they charged me about 200 bucks (!) and a month or two later, one of the terminals fell off. This was four or five years ago, maybe things have improved, but, if they can't make a battery cable????? Best, Steve Steve Dubnoff 1966 Willard Pilothouse www.mvnereid.com sdubnoff@circlesys.com
JM
John Marshall
Wed, Oct 31, 2007 7:44 AM

Tim,
I commissioned my N55 in Dana Point, but have since had it maintained
in Seattle by Emerald Harbor. I've also talked with owners who have
had Emerald Harbor do their commissioning. If I had to do it again,
I'd absolutely commission in Seattle.

I'll drop you a note to discuss further off-list.

John Marshall
N55-Serendipity
Sequim Bay, WA

On Oct 30, 2007, at 5:03 PM, Tim Johnson wrote:

My wife and I are the purchasers of a Nordhavn 64, which is on board a
freighter bound from Taiwan to the U.S.  We had planned to have the
boat
commissioned in Dana Point, Nordhavn's headquarters, but the option
now
presents itself to have commissioning done in Seattle at Emerald
Harbor
Marine.  We are considering the Seattle option because we want to
cruise
Alaska next summer and we would thus avoid the run from Dana Point to
Seattle next April or May, plus avoid "hanging around" northern
Mexico for a
couple of months or so between completion of commissioning  in Dana
Point
and suitable weather for the transit north.  Our electronics are being
installed by Alcom Marine, which has stated its preference for Dana
Point,
because of its proximity.

I'd be interested in hearing your candid assessments of the
capabilities of
Emerald Harbor Marine.  If you want to respond "offline," please do
so to me
at tim@timandclair.com.

All such communications will be held in strictest confidence by me.

Unfortunately, I must make my decision no later than tomorrow, so a
prompt
response would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Timothy A. Johnson, Jr.

895 Espinosa Road

Woodside, CA 94062-4803

tim@timandclair.com


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Tim, I commissioned my N55 in Dana Point, but have since had it maintained in Seattle by Emerald Harbor. I've also talked with owners who have had Emerald Harbor do their commissioning. If I had to do it again, I'd absolutely commission in Seattle. I'll drop you a note to discuss further off-list. John Marshall N55-Serendipity Sequim Bay, WA On Oct 30, 2007, at 5:03 PM, Tim Johnson wrote: > My wife and I are the purchasers of a Nordhavn 64, which is on board a > freighter bound from Taiwan to the U.S. We had planned to have the > boat > commissioned in Dana Point, Nordhavn's headquarters, but the option > now > presents itself to have commissioning done in Seattle at Emerald > Harbor > Marine. We are considering the Seattle option because we want to > cruise > Alaska next summer and we would thus avoid the run from Dana Point to > Seattle next April or May, plus avoid "hanging around" northern > Mexico for a > couple of months or so between completion of commissioning in Dana > Point > and suitable weather for the transit north. Our electronics are being > installed by Alcom Marine, which has stated its preference for Dana > Point, > because of its proximity. > > > > I'd be interested in hearing your candid assessments of the > capabilities of > Emerald Harbor Marine. If you want to respond "offline," please do > so to me > at tim@timandclair.com. > > All such communications will be held in strictest confidence by me. > > > > Unfortunately, I must make my decision no later than tomorrow, so a > prompt > response would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Timothy A. Johnson, Jr. > > 895 Espinosa Road > > Woodside, CA 94062-4803 > > tim@timandclair.com > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power > > To unsubscribe send email to > passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word > UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. > > Passagemaking U
TJ
Tim Johnson
Wed, Oct 31, 2007 2:53 PM

Thanks for your input.

Timothy A. Johnson, Jr.
895 Espinosa Road
Woodside, CA 94062-4803
tim@timandclair.com

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[mailto:passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of
Steven Dubnoff
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:30 PM
To: Passagemaking Under Power List
Subject: Re: [PUP] Emerald Harbor Marina - Seattle

I have had exactly one experience with Emerald Harbor.  I had them
make me a pair of six foot inverter cables.  That, as everyone knows,
is a rather simple job that only requires the proper tools to
perform.  As I recall, they charged me about 200 bucks (!) and a
month or two later, one of the terminals fell off.

This was four or five years ago, maybe things have improved, but, if
they can't make a battery cable?????

Best,

Steve

Steve Dubnoff
1966 Willard Pilothouse
www.mvnereid.com
sdubnoff@circlesys.com


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Thanks for your input. Timothy A. Johnson, Jr. 895 Espinosa Road Woodside, CA 94062-4803 tim@timandclair.com -----Original Message----- From: passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Steven Dubnoff Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:30 PM To: Passagemaking Under Power List Subject: Re: [PUP] Emerald Harbor Marina - Seattle I have had exactly one experience with Emerald Harbor. I had them make me a pair of six foot inverter cables. That, as everyone knows, is a rather simple job that only requires the proper tools to perform. As I recall, they charged me about 200 bucks (!) and a month or two later, one of the terminals fell off. This was four or five years ago, maybe things have improved, but, if they can't make a battery cable????? Best, Steve Steve Dubnoff 1966 Willard Pilothouse www.mvnereid.com sdubnoff@circlesys.com _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power To unsubscribe send email to passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions.
TJ
Tim Johnson
Wed, Oct 31, 2007 2:53 PM

Thanks for your input.

Timothy A. Johnson, Jr.
895 Espinosa Road
Woodside, CA 94062-4803
tim@timandclair.com

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Subject: Re: [PUP] Emerald Harbor Marina - Seattle

Tim - When I was an active delivery captain, I did a
lot of work with PAE/Nordhavn. I like and respect
their boats, but especially the people. And I've
worked with Robert at Alcom at few times (quite the
character).

That being said, I personally would be wary about
having commissioning done by a 3rd party - even if
it's an extremely good one (I don't know the yard you
mentioned). There will be a lot of odds and ends to
repair, many items that won't work, many connections
that fail. My guess is you'll have a lot of money into
the electronics, and the tab will be running with the
yard (even though PAE will be footing the bill). Your
boat will take multiple sea trials to get everything
straight - and make sure everything is WORKING AS
DESIGNED before taking off. WxFax receives properly,
computer interfaces are working properly, all TV
monitors are correct, all screens are properly
configured, all GPSs read on all displays and
repeaters, all the sensors read out as designed (wind,
speed, depth, etc - sometimes these do not interface
into nav software) etc.

That being said, my experience with PAE was they were
good for their word - they'll fly repair people all
over as needed. But it's still a hassle to arrange.
It's better to get it as straight as possible right up
front.

And the trip north is no more than 8-days. Nothing, in
the big scheme of things.

And Scott B made an excellent point on tax - having
the work done in California buys you more time.

Just my opinion - but I would strongly recommend
having the yacht commissioned in Dana Point.

Best success Tim -

Peter
www.SeaSkills.com


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Thanks for your input. Timothy A. Johnson, Jr. 895 Espinosa Road Woodside, CA 94062-4803 tim@timandclair.com -----Original Message----- From: passagemaking-under-power-bounces+tim=timandclair.com@lists.samurai.com [mailto:passagemaking-under-power-bounces+tim=timandclair.com@lists.samurai. com] On Behalf Of Peter Pisciotta Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 6:22 PM To: Passagemaking Under Power List Subject: Re: [PUP] Emerald Harbor Marina - Seattle Tim - When I was an active delivery captain, I did a lot of work with PAE/Nordhavn. I like and respect their boats, but especially the people. And I've worked with Robert at Alcom at few times (quite the character). That being said, I personally would be wary about having commissioning done by a 3rd party - even if it's an extremely good one (I don't know the yard you mentioned). There will be a lot of odds and ends to repair, many items that won't work, many connections that fail. My guess is you'll have a lot of money into the electronics, and the tab will be running with the yard (even though PAE will be footing the bill). Your boat will take multiple sea trials to get everything straight - and make sure everything is WORKING AS DESIGNED before taking off. WxFax receives properly, computer interfaces are working properly, all TV monitors are correct, all screens are properly configured, all GPSs read on all displays and repeaters, all the sensors read out as designed (wind, speed, depth, etc - sometimes these do not interface into nav software) etc. That being said, my experience with PAE was they were good for their word - they'll fly repair people all over as needed. But it's still a hassle to arrange. It's better to get it as straight as possible right up front. And the trip north is no more than 8-days. Nothing, in the big scheme of things. And Scott B made an excellent point on tax - having the work done in California buys you more time. Just my opinion - but I would strongly recommend having the yacht commissioned in Dana Point. Best success Tim - Peter www.SeaSkills.com _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power To unsubscribe send email to passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions.