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ralph

Fri, Mar 31, 2006 6:24 PM

Installed white sanitary hose on my head pump line. I have the hose clamps
as tight as I can and yet there are still leaks at the pump fittings. How
can I stop the leaks with this hose material?

Ralph Salerno
M/V ANCORA
Leaking in San Diego

Installed white sanitary hose on my head pump line. I have the hose clamps as tight as I can and yet there are still leaks at the pump fittings. How can I stop the leaks with this hose material? Ralph Salerno M/V ANCORA Leaking in San Diego

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Scott H.E. Welch

Fri, Mar 31, 2006 8:30 PM

"ralph" ancora@cox.net writes:

Installed white sanitary hose on my head pump line. I have the hose clamps
as tight as I can and yet there are still leaks at the pump fittings. How
can I stop the leaks with this hose material?

Let me pass on a helpful hint on this subject:

I installed two new Vacuflush toilets on Island Eagle, as well as re-plumbing
a manual head. Let me tell you, getting that white sanitary hose on some of
the barbs was a b*tch! It took all of my strength and then some, and even so
I couldn't get the hose all the way on to some of the barbs. Plus, the hose
was so stiff that even if I really cranked on the hose clamp it was still not
too tight on the barb.

So you can imagine my chagrin when my pipefitter came on board to do some
cleanup and happened to notice the bad connections. I told my tale of woe and
he said "watch this". He whipped out a heat gun, gave the hoses about 30
seconds of heat, and shazam. They slipped right onto the barbs, the hose
clamps compressed the hose beautifully, and two minutes later the whole mess
had solidified into a near-weld.

Now I know.

Scott Welch
FirstClass Product Manager
www.firstclass.com

"The person who makes no mistakes usually doesn't make anything"

"ralph" <ancora@cox.net> writes: >Installed white sanitary hose on my head pump line. I have the hose clamps >as tight as I can and yet there are still leaks at the pump fittings. How >can I stop the leaks with this hose material? Let me pass on a helpful hint on this subject: I installed two new Vacuflush toilets on Island Eagle, as well as re-plumbing a manual head. Let me tell you, getting that white sanitary hose on some of the barbs was a b*tch! It took all of my strength and then some, and even so I couldn't get the hose all the way on to some of the barbs. Plus, the hose was so stiff that even if I really cranked on the hose clamp it was still not too tight on the barb. So you can imagine my chagrin when my pipefitter came on board to do some cleanup and happened to notice the bad connections. I told my tale of woe and he said "watch this". He whipped out a heat gun, gave the hoses about 30 seconds of heat, and shazam. They slipped right onto the barbs, the hose clamps compressed the hose beautifully, and two minutes later the whole mess had solidified into a near-weld. Now I know. Scott Welch FirstClass Product Manager www.firstclass.com "The person who makes no mistakes usually doesn't make anything"

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trawlerphil

Fri, Mar 31, 2006 11:57 PM

(SNIP) Installed white sanitary hose on my head pump line. I have the hose
clamps
as tight as I can and yet there are still leaks at the pump fittings. How
can I stop the leaks with this hose material? Ralph

Ralph, try a heat gun to soften the hose a bit. Every boat should have one
if only to get off stubborn hoses, but the technique also works for putting
them on.

                                      Regards....

Phil Rosch
Old Harbor Consulting
M/V "Curmudgeon" MT44 TC
Currently lying Bond Creek, NC

(SNIP) Installed white sanitary hose on my head pump line. I have the hose clamps as tight as I can and yet there are still leaks at the pump fittings. How can I stop the leaks with this hose material? Ralph Ralph, try a heat gun to soften the hose a bit. Every boat should have one if only to get off stubborn hoses, but the technique also works for putting them on. Regards.... Phil Rosch Old Harbor Consulting M/V "Curmudgeon" MT44 TC Currently lying Bond Creek, NC

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Keith

Sat, Apr 1, 2006 1:16 AM

... and use KY jelly as a lubricant when putting these on.

Keith

You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "trawlerphil" trawlerphil@earthlink.net

Ralph, try a heat gun to soften the hose a bit. Every boat should have
one
if only to get off stubborn hoses, but the technique also works for
putting
them on.

... and use KY jelly as a lubricant when putting these on. Keith _____ You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "trawlerphil" <trawlerphil@earthlink.net> > > Ralph, try a heat gun to soften the hose a bit. Every boat should have > one > if only to get off stubborn hoses, but the technique also works for > putting > them on.

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Bob Peterson

Sat, Apr 1, 2006 1:59 AM

Keith, it's important to remember that KY jelly does as good a job in
allowing the hoses to slip off the barb as it does to let it slip on.
Better to use a product like West Marine's hose-lube, forgot the actual
name, as it dries up after use and no longer lubricates, so the hose seizes
up on the barb quite tightly.

Bob Peterson

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Subject: Re: T&T: Sanitary hose

... and use KY jelly as a lubricant when putting these on.

Keith

You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "trawlerphil" trawlerphil@earthlink.net

Ralph, try a heat gun to soften the hose a bit. Every boat should
have one if only to get off stubborn hoses, but the technique also
works for putting them on.

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Keith, it's important to remember that KY jelly does as good a job in allowing the hoses to slip off the barb as it does to let it slip on. Better to use a product like West Marine's hose-lube, forgot the actual name, as it dries up after use and no longer lubricates, so the hose seizes up on the barb quite tightly. Bob Peterson -----Original Message----- From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces+bob=peterson.org@lists.samurai.com [mailto:trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces+bob=peterson.org@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Keith Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 5:17 PM To: 'trawler world' Subject: Re: T&T: Sanitary hose ... and use KY jelly as a lubricant when putting these on. Keith _____ You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "trawlerphil" <trawlerphil@earthlink.net> > > Ralph, try a heat gun to soften the hose a bit. Every boat should > have one if only to get off stubborn hoses, but the technique also > works for putting them on. _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To unsubscribe send email to trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com with the word UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.

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Keith

Sat, Apr 1, 2006 2:54 AM

I can tell you from real experience, that KY works well for this use, and
I've never had a hose slip off after installation. In fact, they're a bear
to get off. Since KY is water soluble, I imagine it "dries up" as well, and
probably costs 1/10 what West's "marine" hose lube does. This is also what
Peggie Hall recommends, and with all her experience, I will stick with that.

Keith

If you don't know where you're going, any road/course will take you there.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Peterson" bob@peterson.org

Keith, it's important to remember that KY jelly does as good a job in
allowing the hoses to slip off the barb as it does to let it slip on.
Better to use a product like West Marine's hose-lube, forgot the actual
name, as it dries up after use and no longer lubricates, so the hose
seizes
up on the barb quite tightly.

Bob Peterson

I can tell you from real experience, that KY works well for this use, and I've never had a hose slip off after installation. In fact, they're a bear to get off. Since KY is water soluble, I imagine it "dries up" as well, and probably costs 1/10 what West's "marine" hose lube does. This is also what Peggie Hall recommends, and with all her experience, I will stick with that. Keith _____ If you don't know where you're going, any road/course will take you there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Peterson" <bob@peterson.org> > Keith, it's important to remember that KY jelly does as good a job in > allowing the hoses to slip off the barb as it does to let it slip on. > Better to use a product like West Marine's hose-lube, forgot the actual > name, as it dries up after use and no longer lubricates, so the hose > seizes > up on the barb quite tightly. > > Bob Peterson

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