List, Another hardware possibility.    Double the 10 MHz to 20 MHz.   With another circuit of 74HC390’s divide 10 MHz to 200 KHz.  Then double it twice to 800 KHz with LM 1496 DBM’s.  Apply the two frequencies to a LM 1496 DBM and use a LPF to get the 19.2 MHz.   Hardware complicated?  A bit.  However one doesn’t have to search for a microprocessor that you program and may not be available in a couple of years.  The IC’s are cheap and have been and will be around forever.   IMHO sometimes an older *brute force* circuit proves that more can be less in implementing what you desire to accomplish.   Regards,   Perrier ________________________________

I'm glad I asked this question. I was hoping to get ideas I'd never think of. It's going to be hard to beat that TI PLL chip especially because TI offers free samples. The injection idea seems almost like cheating. I might use part of the idea below to divide down 10MHz then inject that into the 19.2 crystal and let the crystal itself do the rest. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Perry Sandeen <sandeenpa@yahoo.com> wrote: > List, > > > Another hardware possibility. > > Double the 10 MHz to 20 MHz. > > With another circuit of 74HC390’s divide 10 MHz to > 200 KHz. Then double it twice to 800 KHz > with LM 1496 DBM’s. Apply the two > frequencies to a LM 1496 DBM and use a LPF to get the 19.2 MHz. > > Hardware complicated? A bit. However one doesn’t have to search for a > microprocessor that you program > and may not be available in a couple of years. The IC’s are cheap and > have been and will be around forever. > > IMHO sometimes an older *brute force* circuit > proves that more can be less in implementing what you desire to accomplish. > > Regards, > > Perrier > > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California

On 07.06.2013 19:23, Perry Sandeen wrote: > List, > > > Another hardware possibility. > > Double the 10 MHz to 20 MHz. > > With another circuit of 74HC390’s divide 10 MHz to > 200 KHz. Then double it twice to 800 KHz > with LM 1496 DBM’s. Apply the two > frequencies to a LM 1496 DBM and use a LPF to get the 19.2 MHz. > > Hardware complicated? A bit. Only a bit? Only the filter to rejetct the products that you will have spreaded in all places, spaced 200kHz, and mainly to remove the 20.8 MHz spurious that you will have as a result of the last mixing, makes this approach difficult. I would favour a PLL, and since for the application, short-term stability seems unrelevant, even using a conventional VCO and not a crystal would be enough. A 74HC4046 can reach 19.2MHz, and you only need a couple of dividers to get a 200kHz reference to feed it. > However one doesn’t have to search for a microprocessor that you program > and may not be available in a couple of years. The IC’s are cheap and have been and will be around forever. The LM1496 was discontinued long ago.... it was a second source of the MC1496 (that is in production). But never think it will be around forever (yes, as a hobbyist, surely you can find a single piece forever, more if price does not matter too much). Also, I'm not a bit fan of PICs, quite the contrary, but for example the PIC16F84 has been available from more that 16yr and it is on production... so following your LM1496 criteria, will be available forever :) > > IMHO sometimes an older *brute force* circuit > proves that more can be less in implementing what you desire to accomplish. Brute force is usually brute :) Regards, Javier > > Regards, > > Perrier > > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.