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kim hall
Mon, Apr 20, 2009 6:59 PM

I am ready to tackle the replacement of my current battery setup.  I have 4
8-d batteries.  It appears that one is for the generator ( an old Onan 6kw) 1
is the house battery and the others are for starting.  They sit between the
two perkins 6354 na's in a box below the engine level.  The Onan sits aft of
the batteries midline in the engine room. I am looking for recommendations
based on my engines of what I really need for starting batteries both for the
perkins and the onan.  I am planning on getting some Trojan GC batteries for
the house bank.  I need this to fit basically in the same foot print of the
current batteries.  Any thoughts/ reccomendations.

Kim M Hall Salty Lady 43' Gulfstar Trawler


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I am ready to tackle the replacement of my current battery setup. I have 4 8-d batteries. It appears that one is for the generator ( an old Onan 6kw) 1 is the house battery and the others are for starting. They sit between the two perkins 6354 na's in a box below the engine level. The Onan sits aft of the batteries midline in the engine room. I am looking for recommendations based on my engines of what I really need for starting batteries both for the perkins and the onan. I am planning on getting some Trojan GC batteries for the house bank. I need this to fit basically in the same foot print of the current batteries. Any thoughts/ reccomendations. Kim M Hall Salty Lady 43' Gulfstar Trawler _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail.: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Upda tes2_042009
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2elnav@netbistro.com
Mon, Apr 20, 2009 7:15 PM

Kim you could make much better use  of the existing "floor space".
Although you have twin  engines it is posibel to share one start battery for
both.
Just don't try to start both engines simultaneously. < smil>

Your genset  can get along with an OPTIMA  round top type battery  of much
smaler size.  I have seen these round tops used to start big six cylinder
Cummings in diesel pusher RV.  Given the small size I'm pretty sure you can
tuck such a battery away in a corner.

The Trojan GC  would be good for a house bank.  And depending on vertical
clearance you an  go for 105, 305, or L-16  sizes.

Arild

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Subject: T&T: batteries for 43 gulfstar

I am ready to tackle the replacement of my current battery setup.  I have 4
8-d batteries.  It appears that one is for the generator ( an old Onan
6kw) 1
is the house battery and the others are for starting.  They sit between
the
two perkins 6354 na's in a box below the engine level.  The Onan sits aft
of
the batteries midline in the engine room. I am looking for recommendations
based on my engines of what I really need for starting batteries both for
the
perkins and the onan.  I am planning on getting some Trojan GC batteries
for
the house bank.  I need this to fit basically in the same foot print of
the
current batteries.  Any thoughts/ reccomendations.

Kim M Hall Salty Lady 43' Gulfstar Trawler


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Kim you could make much better use of the existing "floor space". Although you have twin engines it is posibel to share one start battery for both. Just don't try to start both engines simultaneously. < smil> Your genset can get along with an OPTIMA round top type battery of much smaler size. I have seen these round tops used to start big six cylinder Cummings in diesel pusher RV. Given the small size I'm pretty sure you can tuck such a battery away in a corner. The Trojan GC would be good for a house bank. And depending on vertical clearance you an go for 105, 305, or L-16 sizes. Arild ----- Original Message ----- From: "kim hall" <kandivekim@hotmail.com> To: <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 11:59 AM Subject: T&T: batteries for 43 gulfstar >I am ready to tackle the replacement of my current battery setup. I have 4 > 8-d batteries. It appears that one is for the generator ( an old Onan > 6kw) 1 > is the house battery and the others are for starting. They sit between > the > two perkins 6354 na's in a box below the engine level. The Onan sits aft > of > the batteries midline in the engine room. I am looking for recommendations > based on my engines of what I really need for starting batteries both for > the > perkins and the onan. I am planning on getting some Trojan GC batteries > for > the house bank. I need this to fit basically in the same foot print of > the > current batteries. Any thoughts/ reccomendations. > > Kim M Hall Salty Lady 43' Gulfstar Trawler > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Rediscover Hotmail.: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. > http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Upda > tes2_042009 > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4022 (20090420) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com
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Troy Leek
Mon, Apr 20, 2009 8:22 PM

Golf carts are the best bang for your buck in my opinion. 8d's are extremy
heavy and hard to deal with.

I am sure some will dissagree with this, but I have 8 golf carts that i use
for starting/house bank and even down at 11.8 volts after using 50% of the
battery power the engines turn right over and start. My inverter is set to
shut down at 11.8 volts, so i cant totally drain the batteries dead.

I have an isolated start battery for the gen set, so worst case if the golf
carts went totally bad i can still get the engines started to go home.

From: kandivekim@hotmail.com
To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:59:11 -0500
Subject: T&T: batteries for 43 gulfstar

I am ready to tackle the replacement of my current battery setup. I have 4
8-d batteries. It appears that one is for the generator ( an old Onan 6kw)

1

is the house battery and the others are for starting. They sit between the
two perkins 6354 na's in a box below the engine level. The Onan sits aft of
the batteries midline in the engine room. I am looking for recommendations
based on my engines of what I really need for starting batteries both for

the

perkins and the onan. I am planning on getting some Trojan GC batteries for
the house bank. I need this to fit basically in the same foot print of the
current batteries. Any thoughts/ reccomendations.

Kim M Hall Salty Lady 43' Gulfstar Trawler


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Golf carts are the best bang for your buck in my opinion. 8d's are extremy heavy and hard to deal with. I am sure some will dissagree with this, but I have 8 golf carts that i use for starting/house bank and even down at 11.8 volts after using 50% of the battery power the engines turn right over and start. My inverter is set to shut down at 11.8 volts, so i cant totally drain the batteries dead. I have an isolated start battery for the gen set, so worst case if the golf carts went totally bad i can still get the engines started to go home. > From: kandivekim@hotmail.com > To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:59:11 -0500 > Subject: T&T: batteries for 43 gulfstar > > I am ready to tackle the replacement of my current battery setup. I have 4 > 8-d batteries. It appears that one is for the generator ( an old Onan 6kw) 1 > is the house battery and the others are for starting. They sit between the > two perkins 6354 na's in a box below the engine level. The Onan sits aft of > the batteries midline in the engine room. I am looking for recommendations > based on my engines of what I really need for starting batteries both for the > perkins and the onan. I am planning on getting some Trojan GC batteries for > the house bank. I need this to fit basically in the same foot print of the > current batteries. Any thoughts/ reccomendations. > > Kim M Hall Salty Lady 43' Gulfstar Trawler > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Rediscover Hotmail.: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. > http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Upda > tes2_042009 > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1b_explore_042009
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Ron Rogers
Mon, Apr 20, 2009 8:54 PM

It is the Optima Red Top that is designed for starting. The Blue Top D34M is
a dual-purpose battery which can serve as a starting battery. Neither I nor
Optima have any clue what the Yellow Tops are for! All retain a charge
astonishingly well, but, owing to their small size are not suitable (IMHO)
for a house bank which requires the batteries recommended by Arild or their
expensive AGM 6V equivalents.

Ron Rogers

It is the Optima Red Top that is designed for starting. The Blue Top D34M is a dual-purpose battery which can serve as a starting battery. Neither I nor Optima have any clue what the Yellow Tops are for! All retain a charge astonishingly well, but, owing to their small size are not suitable (IMHO) for a house bank which requires the batteries recommended by Arild or their expensive AGM 6V equivalents. Ron Rogers
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Richard Cook
Mon, Apr 20, 2009 9:23 PM

If you go to the Optima web site you'll see that the blue top comes in
either a starting version (34M), which is just like the red top except
for the terminals, and a dual purpose version (D34M), which has slightly
more AH capacity and puts out slightly less CCA. The D31M size is
bigger, and has more cranking power and more AH capacity.  Here's the
link to their specs:

http://www.optimabatteries.com/optima_edge/technical_specs.php#blue1

I had a pair of Optima 34M blue tops for starting my 260hp Volvo
diesel.  They performed admirably for eight years.  Last fall I replaced
them with Deka Intimidator starting AGM's, which are slightly more
robust, weighing about 3 pounds more each (41 vs 38 or so) and are
considerably less expensive, especially at an industrial battery supplier.

Richard Cook
New Moon (Bounty 257)

It is the Optima Red Top that is designed for starting. The Blue Top D34M is
a dual-purpose battery which can serve as a starting battery. Neither I nor
Optima have any clue what the Yellow Tops are for! All retain a charge
astonishingly well, but, owing to their small size are not suitable (IMHO)
for a house bank which requires the batteries recommended by Arild or their
expensive AGM 6V equivalents.

If you go to the Optima web site you'll see that the blue top comes in either a starting version (34M), which is just like the red top except for the terminals, and a dual purpose version (D34M), which has slightly more AH capacity and puts out slightly less CCA. The D31M size is bigger, and has more cranking power and more AH capacity. Here's the link to their specs: http://www.optimabatteries.com/optima_edge/technical_specs.php#blue1 I had a pair of Optima 34M blue tops for starting my 260hp Volvo diesel. They performed admirably for eight years. Last fall I replaced them with Deka Intimidator starting AGM's, which are slightly more robust, weighing about 3 pounds more each (41 vs 38 or so) and are considerably less expensive, especially at an industrial battery supplier. Richard Cook New Moon (Bounty 257) > It is the Optima Red Top that is designed for starting. The Blue Top D34M is > a dual-purpose battery which can serve as a starting battery. Neither I nor > Optima have any clue what the Yellow Tops are for! All retain a charge > astonishingly well, but, owing to their small size are not suitable (IMHO) > for a house bank which requires the batteries recommended by Arild or their > expensive AGM 6V equivalents.
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2elnav@netbistro.com
Mon, Apr 20, 2009 9:47 PM

Richard thanks for the OPTIMA link.
I must confess I had not kept up with all the brand names.  I did use the
original Gates Cyclon  cylindrical batteries.  Optima is the commercial
sucessor.
Arild

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If you go to the Optima web site    Here's the  link to their specs:

http://www.optimabatteries.com/optima_edge/technical_specs.php#blue1>

Richard thanks for the OPTIMA link. I must confess I had not kept up with all the brand names. I did use the original Gates Cyclon cylindrical batteries. Optima is the commercial sucessor. Arild ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Cook" <newmoon1@prodigy.net> > If you go to the Optima web site Here's the link to their specs: > > http://www.optimabatteries.com/optima_edge/technical_specs.php#blue1>
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M Sharp
Mon, Apr 20, 2009 10:06 PM

The yellow tops are dual purpose start/deep discharge battery with automotive
side mount and post terminals.

It is the Optima Red Top that is designed for starting. The Blue Top D34M

is

a dual-purpose battery which can serve as a starting battery. Neither I nor
Optima have any clue what the Yellow Tops are for! All retain a charge
astonishingly well, but, owing to their small size are not suitable (IMHO)
for a house bank which requires the batteries recommended by Arild or their
expensive AGM 6V equivalents.


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The yellow tops are dual purpose start/deep discharge battery with automotive side mount and post terminals. > > It is the Optima Red Top that is designed for starting. The Blue Top D34M is > a dual-purpose battery which can serve as a starting battery. Neither I nor > Optima have any clue what the Yellow Tops are for! All retain a charge > astonishingly well, but, owing to their small size are not suitable (IMHO) > for a house bank which requires the batteries recommended by Arild or their > expensive AGM 6V equivalents. _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail.: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Upda tes2_042009