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RE: TWL: Re: Re: Re: Diesel smell

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mknott@bcpl.net
Fri, Jun 2, 2000 4:17 PM

===== Original Message From "arider" arider@bellsouth.net =====
After crawling through many attics and basements as a general contractor for
over 30 years........where usually older folks (like me now) have their
clothes and other things stored in moth balls......explain to me if you can,
why you can't smell the moth balls when that is the whole idea to deter the
moths??  Is it because the diesel is a  stronger smell? :)

Bob,

I don't know the exact chemistry involved but have a few thoughts on the
possiblities.  First, as mothballs (napthalene) sublimates (goes from a solid
to a gas) it may not be the distinctive smell of napthalene that repels moths
but the chemistry of the napthalene gas.

When Rob says "you don't actually smell the moth balls but they take away the
other smells," it could be that the napthalene gas is combining/reacting with
the evaporative state of the diesel fuel to form a less odorous residual gas.

It sounds interesting, and I may try a little experiment with it myself.  I
would caution though, that you're adding another chemical to and perhaps
creating new unknown chemicals in the air you breathe on your boat.  Make sure
adequate ventilation is provided.

Regards,

Mel Knott
Sandpiper
West Indian 36
Annapolis, MD

>===== Original Message From "arider" <arider@bellsouth.net> ===== >After crawling through many attics and basements as a general contractor for >over 30 years........where usually older folks (like me now) have their >clothes and other things stored in moth balls......explain to me if you can, >why you can't smell the moth balls when that is the whole idea to deter the >moths?? Is it because the diesel is a stronger smell? :) > Bob, I don't know the exact chemistry involved but have a few thoughts on the possiblities. First, as mothballs (napthalene) sublimates (goes from a solid to a gas) it may not be the distinctive smell of napthalene that repels moths but the chemistry of the napthalene gas. When Rob says "you don't actually smell the moth balls but they take away the other smells," it could be that the napthalene gas is combining/reacting with the evaporative state of the diesel fuel to form a less odorous residual gas. It sounds interesting, and I may try a little experiment with it myself. I would caution though, that you're adding another chemical to and perhaps creating new unknown chemicals in the air you breathe on your boat. Make sure adequate ventilation is provided. Regards, Mel Knott Sandpiper West Indian 36 Annapolis, MD
S
scaramouche@tvo.org
Fri, Jun 2, 2000 4:34 PM

It sounds interesting, and I may try a little experiment with it
myself.  I
would caution though, that you're adding another chemical to and
perhaps
creating new unknown chemicals in the air you breathe on your boat.
Make sure
adequate ventilation is provided.

Wasn't the original question: "I can't smell the diesel odour but my
wife can"? Isn't the answer obvious? I'll probably die over that
remark, eh?
Seriously though, there seems to be a different perception toward
odours depending on whether you're male or female.
When I was teaching at college and living on an old wooden boat with
plenty of diesel and other odours, I would observe my female students
backing off at least three feet when I walked into the room whereas
male students didn't seem to mind.
One more thought: Someone on one of these lists mentioned an enzyme
spray product that effectively removes many odours. I use that for
cat and pet odours (like when a pet accidentially pees on the
carpet). The product I use is called FEBREZE. I wonder if that would
help?

mknott@bcpl.net writes: >It sounds interesting, and I may try a little experiment with it >myself. I >would caution though, that you're adding another chemical to and >perhaps >creating new unknown chemicals in the air you breathe on your boat. >Make sure >adequate ventilation is provided. Wasn't the original question: "I can't smell the diesel odour but my wife can"? Isn't the answer obvious? I'll probably die over that remark, eh? Seriously though, there seems to be a different perception toward odours depending on whether you're male or female. When I was teaching at college and living on an old wooden boat with plenty of diesel and other odours, I would observe my female students backing off at least three feet when I walked into the room whereas male students didn't seem to mind. One more thought: Someone on one of these lists mentioned an enzyme spray product that effectively removes many odours. I use that for cat and pet odours (like when a pet accidentially pees on the carpet). The product I use is called FEBREZE. I wonder if that would help?