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Re: [time-nuts] Advice on 10 MHz isolation/distribution

LS
life speed
Sat, Feb 20, 2010 1:17 AM

If I can believe the simulation (a big if) the ADA4899-1 can provide 90 dB isolation at 10 MHz, rolling up to 70 dB at 100 MHz, when configured with a gain of +2

The subcircuit model provided by ADI is useless for noise, unfortunately.  I guess I'll have to build and measure, which I don't mind doing.  Unless it turns out to be a waste of time, and I should have just used the transistor circuit.

Clay

If I can believe the simulation (a big if) the ADA4899-1 can provide 90 dB isolation at 10 MHz, rolling up to 70 dB at 100 MHz, when configured with a gain of +2 The subcircuit model provided by ADI is useless for noise, unfortunately.  I guess I'll have to build and measure, which I don't mind doing.  Unless it turns out to be a waste of time, and I should have just used the transistor circuit. Clay
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Pete Rawson
Sat, Feb 20, 2010 2:50 AM

Clay,

I would really like to have a copy of your test board for this effort.
I'm sure it will be a challenging layout. But it could be a very handy
piece of hardware. Supporting a PCA order would easy to do.

Pete Rawson

On Feb 19, 2010, at 6:17 PM, life speed wrote:

If I can believe the simulation (a big if) the ADA4899-1 can provide 90 dB isolation at 10 MHz, rolling up to 70 dB at 100 MHz, when configured with a gain of +2

The subcircuit model provided by ADI is useless for noise, unfortunately.  I guess I'll have to build and measure, which I don't mind doing.  Unless it turns out to be a waste of time, and I should have just used the transistor circuit.

Clay


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Clay, I would really like to have a copy of your test board for this effort. I'm sure it will be a challenging layout. But it could be a very handy piece of hardware. Supporting a PCA order would easy to do. Pete Rawson On Feb 19, 2010, at 6:17 PM, life speed wrote: > If I can believe the simulation (a big if) the ADA4899-1 can provide 90 dB isolation at 10 MHz, rolling up to 70 dB at 100 MHz, when configured with a gain of +2 > > The subcircuit model provided by ADI is useless for noise, unfortunately. I guess I'll have to build and measure, which I don't mind doing. Unless it turns out to be a waste of time, and I should have just used the transistor circuit. > > Clay > > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
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Bruce Griffiths
Sat, Feb 20, 2010 3:51 AM

life speed wrote:

If I can believe the simulation (a big if) the ADA4899-1 can provide 90 dB isolation at 10 MHz, rolling up to 70 dB at 100 MHz, when configured with a gain of +2

The subcircuit model provided by ADI is useless for noise, unfortunately.  I guess I'll have to build and measure, which I don't mind doing.  Unless it turns out to be a waste of time, and I should have just used the transistor circuit.

Clay

Its easy to calculate a lower bound to the amplifier phase noise floor
from the signal level at the output and the amplifier output noise due
to feedback resistors together with the amplifier input voltage and
current noise.
The actual phase noise floor  may be a few dB higher.

Bruce

life speed wrote: > If I can believe the simulation (a big if) the ADA4899-1 can provide 90 dB isolation at 10 MHz, rolling up to 70 dB at 100 MHz, when configured with a gain of +2 > > The subcircuit model provided by ADI is useless for noise, unfortunately. I guess I'll have to build and measure, which I don't mind doing. Unless it turns out to be a waste of time, and I should have just used the transistor circuit. > > Clay > > Its easy to calculate a lower bound to the amplifier phase noise floor from the signal level at the output and the amplifier output noise due to feedback resistors together with the amplifier input voltage and current noise. The actual phase noise floor may be a few dB higher. Bruce