Alan, Please do something that would really help us out...buy a house in Florida. Cheap now. RC In a message dated 2/28/2010 10:23:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, shapiro@sympatico.ca writes: There is no person in the world in receipt of a subsidy who does not claim that the subsidy is not in his own interest but rather in the interest of the country/state/city/economy/etc. The farmer claims his subsidy is to guarantee a safe food supply to the nation, the oil companies that it is to develope energy independance, the artist that it to develope the nations cultural resources, and so on And the cruiser wants a free dock because it is in the interests of the local businesses. But there is no such thing as a free lunch. The dock has to be maintained, insured, and so on. Why should the general taxpayer have to pay the bill to provide the free lunch directly to the cruiser and indirectly to the local business. Perhaps if the local businesses cannot exist without taxpayer transfusions, then they should not exist. I am not an American. I come down to Florida from Canada for about 4 months during the year and I love the attitudes of most Americans I meet, particularly the cruisers: independent, self financing, loving of country and distrusting of government. I keep my trawler in a run-down marina in St. Petersburg. There are alot of relatively poor youngish men, liveaboards, who are contantly looking for work in fishing or construction. Times are tough right now, but none of them is looking for welfare. One way or another, they pay there own way. I only wish there was more of this attitude in Canada. I too like to find a free dock. But I don't feel abused when it is denied me. And when I find one, I don't pretend that it is anything other than a benefit conferred on me at someone elses expense. Alan Shapiro _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.

Alan, There is a trust fund that is maintained from boating accessories and taxes that is to be used for facilities in any community that applies for them. There are several different levels of funding, but they generally are to be free of charge unless there is a small dedicated fee for maintenance. They have been shown to be a positive revenue asset to their respective communities. The imported folks in Venice chose to be self centered and would just as soon all the boaters went away. Jim Monahan Finale On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:58 PM, <Seasalt007@aol.com> wrote: > Alan, > > Please do something that would really help us out...buy a house in Florida. > Cheap now. > > RC > > > In a message dated 2/28/2010 10:23:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > shapiro@sympatico.ca writes: > > There is no person in the world in receipt of a subsidy who does not claim > that the subsidy is not in his own interest but rather in the interest of > the country/state/city/economy/etc. The farmer claims his subsidy is to > guarantee a safe food supply to the nation, the oil companies that it is > to > develope energy independance, the artist that it to develope the nations > cultural resources, and so on > > And the cruiser wants a free dock because it is in the interests of the > local businesses. But there is no such thing as a free lunch. The dock has > to be maintained, insured, and so on. Why should the general taxpayer have > to pay the bill to provide the free lunch directly to the cruiser and > indirectly to the local business. Perhaps if the local businesses cannot > exist without taxpayer transfusions, then they should not exist. > > I am not an American. I come down to Florida from Canada for about 4 > months > during the year and I love the attitudes of most Americans I meet, > particularly the cruisers: independent, self financing, loving of country > and distrusting of government. I keep my trawler in a run-down marina in > St. > Petersburg. There are alot of relatively poor youngish men, liveaboards, > who > are contantly looking for work in fishing or construction. Times are tough > > right now, but none of them is looking for welfare. One way or another, > they > pay there own way. I only wish there was more of this attitude in Canada. > > I too like to find a free dock. But I don't feel abused when it is denied > me. And when I find one, I don't pretend that it is anything other than a > benefit conferred on me at someone elses expense. > > Alan Shapiro > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited. > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.