I'll bet Georgs is reading all of these, hi buddy, great list !!! Lets look at WoodenBoat forums "FAQ" it works great and really cuts down on new guys asking all the same stuff, and it is an incredible wealth of knowledge. _________________________________________________________________ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&m kt=en-us