Message: 19
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 10:45:57 -0800
From: "Larry H" boatbuilder44@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: T&T: Important - Attention All Foreign Flagged
To: "Trawlers and Trawlering"
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Capt Bill,
The key words here are  'entering or clearing'  and  'reporting' .
'Entering or clearing' is what has to be done when arriving from a
foreign
port.    'Reporting' is what has to be done when moving from port to
port or
place to place.
What is unclear is how to report.  Can it be done by VHF radio? Is a
phone
call the only way?  Can it be done by dropping a postcard in the mail?
What
about anchoring where there is no phone service?  How big is a port?
How
far does the boat have to move to be in a new place?  If all this is
difficult for those speaking US English to understand,  what about
those who
speak another language?
Larry H

I'd say you use the same methods as filing an any NOA or ANOA. This is how we do it.

http://www.nvmc.uscg.gov/

https://www.nvmc.uscg.gov/enoa/logon.aspx

It's become a very big PITA and it appears each Port Captain can modify the rules as he/she sees fit for their port.

NOA/D Submission Support -The NVMC provides assistance 24 hours per day, 7 days a week by phone, email, or fax.
Phone: (800) 708-9823 or (304) 264-2502
Email:    document.write('' + 'sans' + '@' + 'nvmc.uscg.gov');                sans@nvmc.uscg.gov
Fax: (800) 547-8724 or (304) 264-2684

"' 160.210  Methods for submitting an NOA.

(a) Submission to the National Vessel Movement Center (NVMC). Except as provided in paragraphs (b) and (c) of this section, vessels must submit NOA information required by '160.206 (entries 1 through 9 in Table 160.206) to the NVMC, United States Coast Guard, 408 Coast Guard Drive, Kearneysville, WV 25430, by:
(1) Electronic submission via the electronic Notice of Arrival and Departure (eNOAD) and consisting of the following three formats:
(i) A Web site that can be used to submit NOA information directly to the NVMC, accessible from the NVMC web site at http://www.nvmc.uscg.gov;
(ii) Electronic submission of Extensible Markup Language (XML) formatted documents via web service;
(iii) Electronic submission via Microsoft InfoPath; contact the NVMC at sans@nvmc.uscg.gov or by telephone at 18007089823 or 3042642502 for more information;
(2) E-mail at sans@nvmc.uscg.gov. Workbook available at http://www.nvmc.uscg.gov;
(3) Fax at 18005478724 or 3042642684. Workbook available at http://www.nvmc.uscg.gov; or,
(4) Telephone at 18007089823 or 3042642502.
(b) Saint Lawrence Seaway transits. Those vessels transiting the Saint Lawrence Seaway inbound, bound for a port or place in the United States, may meet the submission requirements of paragraph (a) of this section by submitting the required information to the Saint Lawrence Seaway Development Corporation and the Saint Lawrence Seaway Management Corporation of Canada by fax at 3157643235 or at 3157643200. The Cargo Declaration (Customs Form 1302) in entry (8) in Table 160.206 must be submitted electronically to the USCS, as required by paragraph (d) of this section.
(c) Seventh Coast Guard District. Those foreign vessels 300 or less gross tons operating in the Seventh Coast Guard District must submit an NOA to the cognizant Captain of the Port (COTP). The Cargo Declaration (Customs Form 1302) in entry (8) in Table 160.206 must be submitted electronically to the USCS, as required by paragraph (d) of this section.
(d) Submission to the United States Customs Service's Sea Automated Manifest System (AMS). (1) Beginning July 1, 2003, the Cargo Declaration (Customs Form 1302) in entry (8) in Table 160.206 must be submitted electronically to the USCS Sea AMS by one of the following methods:
(i) By direct connection with USCS or by purchasing the proper software; or
(ii) Using a service provider or a Port Authority.
(2) To become a participant in Sea AMS, submitters must provide a letter of intent to USCS prior to first submission.
[USCG200211865, 68 FR 9543, Feb. 28, 2003; 68 FR 63735, Nov. 10, 2003, as amended by USCG200419963, 70 FR 74669, Dec. 16, 2005]
Effective Date Note:  By USCG200211865, 68 FR 27908, May 22, 2003, in '160.210, the last sentence of paragraph (b), the last sentence of paragraph (c), and paragraph (d) were suspended, effective May 22, 2003.

' 160.212  When to submit an NOA.
(a) Submission of NOA. (1) Except as set out in paragraph (a)(2) of this section, all vessels must submit NOAs within the times required in paragraph (a)(3) of this section.
(2) Towing vessels, when in control of a vessel carrying CDC and operating solely between ports or places in the continental United States, must submit an NOA before departure but at least 12 hours before entering the port or place of destination.
(3) Times for submitting NOAs areas follows:
If your voyage time is You must submit an NOA
(i) 96 hours or more; or At least 96 hours before entering the port or place of destination; or
(ii) Less than 96 hours Before departure but at least 24 hours before entering the port or place of destination.
(b) Submission of changes to NOA. (1) Except as set out in paragraph (b)(2) of this section, vessels must submit changes in NOA information within the times required in paragraph (b)(3) of this section.
(2) Towing vessels, when in control of a vessel carrying CDC and operating solely between ports or places in the continental United States, must submit changes to an NOA as soon as practicable but at least 6 hours before entering the port or place of destination.

(3) Times for submitting changes to NOAs are as follows:

If your remaining voyage time is Then you must submit changes to an NOA
(i) 96 hours or more; As soon as practicable but at least 24 hours before entering the port or place of destination;
(ii) Less than 96 hours but not less than 24 hours; or As soon as practicable but at least 24 hours before entering the port or place of destination; or
(iii) Less than 24 hours As soon as practicable but at least 12 hours before entering the port or place of destination."

And while the regs. state,

"' 160.203  Exemptions."

"1) V1) Vessels 300 gross tons or less, except for foreign vessels entering any port or place in the Seventh Coast Guard District as described in 33 CFR 3.351(b).essels 300 gross tons or less, except for foreign vessels entering any port or place in the Seventh Coast Guard District as described in 33 CFR 3.351(b)."

are EXEMPT from these regs. in most cases, it seems like more and more port captains are requiring all foreign flagged private vessels to report in.
As well as now we have to have a pilot on board in some areas where we never did before.

                                                                                           Capt. Bill

To all,

I live in Turkey. Over here, one checks into one port and check in is
done, until you are ready to leave.

If you are foreign flagged, they "suggest" that you "notify" the port
captain when you are changing ports, and even when going out.

I put those words in "" because if the Turkish Coast Guard sees a
foreign flag out in territorial waters, they will call the two
nearest marinas foreigners "typically" use and ask about you. If they
do not get a "satisfactory" answer, they come bearing down on you at
high speed (25+ knots) and in perfectly good, but unintelligible
Turkish via a bull horn, "ask" you to prepare to be boarded. That
experience is I am told is quite unforgettable.

So, most of the port captains have gotten into the business of being
inquisitive. Some think that it is kind of intrusive.

It is not.

My guess is that while the US has formalized this process, other
countries have not, but enforce the concept any way.

Just my 2 ". YMMV, etc etc etc

Lee

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