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Re: [time-nuts] Question concerning failure and value of HP 5371A

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Magnus Danielson
Fri, Oct 14, 2005 10:41 PM

From: "Arnold Tibus" Arnold.Tibus@gmx.de
Subject: [time-nuts] Question concerning failure and value of HP 5371A
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 00:21:38 +0200
Message-ID: E1EQXxQ-0004Nl-Cc@febo.com

Hello everybody,

Hi Arnold,

my name is Arnold, located in southern Germany, and I am quite new
joining this very interesting group - I got as well the fever of precise timing,
reading all you comments lot of months back - and learning a lot from all
your knowledge and experiences.

I am sure you are enjoying the discussion about GPS jammers on German nuclear
reactors? Just ponder a moment what that does to the time and frequency
industry... ;O)

I am collecting already some nice counters and oscillators, OCXOs and
Rb-types. My target is to build a very stable and precise frequency standard
applying gps.

Welcome to the gang, you will find yourself at home quite soon I hope.

Now I have the possibility to get (perhaps) a time interval counter
hp 5371A in very nice condition, but with a small black point:
When switching on it indicates:
" Instrument setup lost, Reset to default, Saved Configurations lost.
Press any key to continue".
Is that a severe problem?
Is such equipment a 'must' for serious working?

You probably have a bad backup battery. That is easy enought to replace. To be
expected.

What you might want to do is to get the HP 5371A service manual of the Agilent
webpage.

What is about the value for such a device, more than 600, 1000 ore
more $ ?

Keep looking around, but they go in the range 600-1000 USD as I recall it.

Thank you at the moment in advance,
I am sure that I will have to ask you in future more questions, if
allowed.

Best regards from the Lake Constance,

Arnold, DK2WT

Cheers,
Magnus - who was down to Münich for the Octoberfest

From: "Arnold Tibus" <Arnold.Tibus@gmx.de> Subject: [time-nuts] Question concerning failure and value of HP 5371A Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 00:21:38 +0200 Message-ID: <E1EQXxQ-0004Nl-Cc@febo.com> > Hello everybody, Hi Arnold, > my name is Arnold, located in southern Germany, and I am quite new > joining this very interesting group - I got as well the fever of precise timing, > reading all you comments lot of months back - and learning a lot from all > your knowledge and experiences. I am sure you are enjoying the discussion about GPS jammers on German nuclear reactors? Just ponder a moment what that does to the time and frequency industry... ;O) > I am collecting already some nice counters and oscillators, OCXOs and > Rb-types. My target is to build a very stable and precise frequency standard > applying gps. Welcome to the gang, you will find yourself at home quite soon I hope. > Now I have the possibility to get (perhaps) a time interval counter > hp 5371A in very nice condition, but with a small black point: > When switching on it indicates: > " Instrument setup lost, Reset to default, Saved Configurations lost. > Press any key to continue". > Is that a severe problem? > Is such equipment a 'must' for serious working? You probably have a bad backup battery. That is easy enought to replace. To be expected. What you might want to do is to get the HP 5371A service manual of the Agilent webpage. > What is about the value for such a device, more than 600, 1000 ore > more $ ? Keep looking around, but they go in the range 600-1000 USD as I recall it. > Thank you at the moment in advance, > I am sure that I will have to ask you in future more questions, if > allowed. > > Best regards from the Lake Constance, > > Arnold, DK2WT Cheers, Magnus - who was down to Münich for the Octoberfest
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Arnold Tibus
Sat, Oct 15, 2005 5:46 PM

Hi Magnus and the others in the group,
thank you very much for your comments and the help!

I had a look to the counter at the seller, propably really ok, but its at ebay
already above 1000 $, and he believes to get much more.
(We will see soon where it ends).
see #http://cgi.ebay.de/1-St-HP-5371A-Frequency-and-Time-Interval-Analyzer_W0QQitemZ5817342262QQcategoryZ31337QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

In Germany such devices are rare and very expensive, as there are some
dealers buying all the good equipment and reselling them to companies with
multiplicators....
Even for a really defective 5371A, showing fatal errors on RAM,
mathunit and others, they ask for at least around 600 $.
That's not my collar size....

This forces me to try to develop a very high speed gating device with
d-flip-flops as ripple counter, capable to work below few ns, best would
be to count up to 500 MHz pulses (1ns), but unfortunately I am already
an old codger who liked to work with analogue rf signals, not liking all
the digital devices.
The point is, I do not find gates capable to work well beyond 30, 40 MHz.
I there somebody having a helpful idea how this could be solved?

PS: I had a look to the internal h/w of the hp 5371A, the ocxo is a
normal hp 10811-60111 in, I thought to find a higher qualified type in
such devices.

No, I am not watching all that illnesses about jamming gps etc.,
because I think that this is good calming down people, but this would
not stop informed guys at all navigating to the target...there are other
ways. So what.

Hello Robert in Zürich, I hope to meet you again, viele Grüsse in
die Schweiz, nur etwa 70 Strassenkilometer von Salem.

Regards,

Arnold, DK2WT

On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 00:41:12 +0200 (CEST), Magnus Danielson wrote:

From: "Arnold Tibus" Arnold.Tibus@gmx.de
Subject: [time-nuts] Question concerning failure and value of HP 5371A
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 00:21:38 +0200
Message-ID: E1EQXxQ-0004Nl-Cc@febo.com

Hello everybody,

Hi Arnold,

my name is Arnold, located in southern Germany, and I am quite new
joining this very interesting group - I got as well the fever of precise timing,
reading all you comments lot of months back - and learning a lot from all
your knowledge and experiences.

I am sure you are enjoying the discussion about GPS jammers on German nuclear
reactors? Just ponder a moment what that does to the time and frequency
industry... ;O)

I am collecting already some nice counters and oscillators, OCXOs and
Rb-types. My target is to build a very stable and precise frequency standard
applying gps.

Welcome to the gang, you will find yourself at home quite soon I hope.

Now I have the possibility to get (perhaps) a time interval counter
hp 5371A in very nice condition, but with a small black point:
When switching on it indicates:
" Instrument setup lost, Reset to default, Saved Configurations lost.
Press any key to continue".
Is that a severe problem?
Is such equipment a 'must' for serious working?

You probably have a bad backup battery. That is easy enought to replace. To be
expected.

What you might want to do is to get the HP 5371A service manual of the Agilent
webpage.

What is about the value for such a device, more than 600, 1000 ore
more $ ?

Keep looking around, but they go in the range 600-1000 USD as I recall it.

Thank you at the moment in advance,
I am sure that I will have to ask you in future more questions, if
allowed.

Best regards from the Lake Constance,

Arnold, DK2WT

Cheers,
Magnus - who was down to Münich for the Octoberfest

Hi Magnus and the others in the group, thank you very much for your comments and the help! I had a look to the counter at the seller, propably really ok, but its at ebay already above 1000 $, and he believes to get much more. (We will see soon where it ends). see #http://cgi.ebay.de/1-St-HP-5371A-Frequency-and-Time-Interval-Analyzer_W0QQitemZ5817342262QQcategoryZ31337QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem In Germany such devices are rare and very expensive, as there are some dealers buying all the good equipment and reselling them to companies with multiplicators.... Even for a really defective 5371A, showing fatal errors on RAM, mathunit and others, they ask for at least around 600 $. That's not my collar size.... This forces me to try to develop a very high speed gating device with d-flip-flops as ripple counter, capable to work below few ns, best would be to count up to 500 MHz pulses (1ns), but unfortunately I am already an old codger who liked to work with analogue rf signals, not liking all the digital devices. The point is, I do not find gates capable to work well beyond 30, 40 MHz. I there somebody having a helpful idea how this could be solved? PS: I had a look to the internal h/w of the hp 5371A, the ocxo is a normal hp 10811-60111 in, I thought to find a higher qualified type in such devices. No, I am not watching all that illnesses about jamming gps etc., because I think that this is good calming down people, but this would not stop informed guys at all navigating to the target...there are other ways. So what. Hello Robert in Zürich, I hope to meet you again, viele Grüsse in die Schweiz, nur etwa 70 Strassenkilometer von Salem. Regards, Arnold, DK2WT On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 00:41:12 +0200 (CEST), Magnus Danielson wrote: >From: "Arnold Tibus" <Arnold.Tibus@gmx.de> >Subject: [time-nuts] Question concerning failure and value of HP 5371A >Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 00:21:38 +0200 >Message-ID: <E1EQXxQ-0004Nl-Cc@febo.com> >> Hello everybody, >Hi Arnold, >> my name is Arnold, located in southern Germany, and I am quite new >> joining this very interesting group - I got as well the fever of precise timing, >> reading all you comments lot of months back - and learning a lot from all >> your knowledge and experiences. >I am sure you are enjoying the discussion about GPS jammers on German nuclear >reactors? Just ponder a moment what that does to the time and frequency >industry... ;O) >> I am collecting already some nice counters and oscillators, OCXOs and >> Rb-types. My target is to build a very stable and precise frequency standard >> applying gps. >Welcome to the gang, you will find yourself at home quite soon I hope. >> Now I have the possibility to get (perhaps) a time interval counter >> hp 5371A in very nice condition, but with a small black point: >> When switching on it indicates: >> " Instrument setup lost, Reset to default, Saved Configurations lost. >> Press any key to continue". >> Is that a severe problem? >> Is such equipment a 'must' for serious working? >You probably have a bad backup battery. That is easy enought to replace. To be >expected. >What you might want to do is to get the HP 5371A service manual of the Agilent >webpage. >> What is about the value for such a device, more than 600, 1000 ore >> more $ ? >Keep looking around, but they go in the range 600-1000 USD as I recall it. >> Thank you at the moment in advance, >> I am sure that I will have to ask you in future more questions, if >> allowed. >> >> Best regards from the Lake Constance, >> >> Arnold, DK2WT >Cheers, >Magnus - who was down to Münich for the Octoberfest >_______________________________________________ >time-nuts mailing list >time-nuts@febo.com >https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts