OT favorite chip programmer/favorite ROM emulator
By far the best programmer on the planet is still the Data I/O Unisite (followed by the 3980, 3900, and 2900 prorgrammers). If a Unisite can't program it, you are in bad shape... it probably can't be programmed.
Bad news is a refurbed Unisite will set you back $25,000 plus the cost of socket adapters and software. Good news is with a little shopping around on Ebay, you can possibly snag one for around $100.
The trick is to find one with the socket adapters you need. Also the more pin driver cards it has installed, the better (a full load is 17 cards/68 pin drivers). Also, one with the internal hard drive (aka MSM, aka Mass Storage Module) is very desirable. Booting from a (720Kb only) floppy can take several minutes.
I have purchased several machines just because they had an adapter that I did not have. Also you need to make sure it comes with a full set of programming software (generally, the later the version better) because a current software set from DIO will set you back over $2000...
For more info, check out Bruce Lane's guide to DIO machines on Ebay:
http://reviews.ebay.com/Data-I-O-Device-Programmers-A-Condensed-Reference_W0QQugidZ10000000001698682?ssPageName=BUYGD:CAT:-1:SEARCH:3
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Another one to look at apparently is the Galep model 4(LPT) or 5(USB). I
don't have one but when this question was asked recently elsewhere, they
were very highly recommended - and very good support.
http://www.conitec.com/english/galep5.php
Dave
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Subject: [time-nuts] OT favorite chip programmer/favorite ROM emulator
By far the best programmer on the planet is still the Data I/O Unisite
(followed by the 3980, 3900, and 2900 prorgrammers). If a Unisite can't
program it, you are in bad shape... it probably can't be programmed.
Bad news is a refurbed Unisite will set you back $25,000 plus the cost of
socket adapters and software. Good news is with a little shopping around on
Ebay, you can possibly snag one for around $100.
The trick is to find one with the socket adapters you need. Also the more
pin driver cards it has installed, the better (a full load is 17 cards/68
pin drivers). Also, one with the internal hard drive (aka MSM, aka Mass
Storage Module) is very desirable. Booting from a (720Kb only) floppy can
take several minutes.
I have purchased several machines just because they had an adapter that I
did not have. Also you need to make sure it comes with a full set of
programming software (generally, the later the version better) because a
current software set from DIO will set you back over $2000...
For more info, check out Bruce Lane's guide to DIO machines on Ebay:
http://reviews.ebay.com/Data-I-O-Device-Programmers-A-Condensed-Reference_W0
QQugidZ10000000001698682?ssPageName=BUYGD:CAT:-1:SEARCH:3
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Mark Sims wrote:
By far the best programmer on the planet is still the Data I/O Unisite (followed by the 3980, 3900, and 2900
prorgrammers). If a Unisite can't program it, you are in bad shape... it probably can't be programmed.
That is really kind of a silly statement. Data I/O is known as the
cadillac of programmers, but mostly because of its high price.
Advin makes a programmer that will program everything the Data I/O will,
using the same algorithms, for 1/10th the price. Further all of their
software is available on their website for free download.
Their intro model has 44 drivers, and will program devices up to 128
pins. Their top of the line model has 128 drivers and will program
devices up to 304 pins... costs $3295.
Used Advin programmers are a mixed bag. When the 3.3V devices came out,
the voltage references on the pin driver DAC's got changed, so that obsoleted
them for 3.3V devices. However, the software for every machine they ever
made is available on their website. Also, their programmers use the
host computer for much of the programmer's power, and there is an issue
with some of the earlier machines and too fast PC's, so there might be
a need to buy an older throttled down PC to host your Advin programmer.
-Chuck Harris
Bad news is a refurbed Unisite will set you back $25,000 plus the cost of socket adapters and software. Good news is
with a little shopping around on Ebay, you can possibly snag one for around $100.
The trick is to find one with the socket adapters you need. Also the more pin driver cards it has installed, the
better (a full load is 17 cards/68 pin drivers). Also, one with the internal hard drive (aka MSM, aka Mass Storage
Module) is very desirable. Booting from a (720Kb only) floppy can take several minutes.
I have purchased several machines just because they had an adapter that I did not have. Also you need to make sure
it comes with a full set of programming software (generally, the later the version better) because a current
software set from DIO will set you back over $2000...
For more info, check out Bruce Lane's guide to DIO machines on Ebay:
http://reviews.ebay.com/Data-I-O-Device-Programmers-A-Condensed-Reference_W0QQugidZ10000000001698682?ssPageName=BUYGD:CAT:-1:SEARCH:3
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Hi David
Thanks for taking the time to post.
Have a great Easter-Patrick
David C. Partridge wrote:
Another one to look at apparently is the Galep model 4(LPT) or 5(USB). I
don't have one but when this question was asked recently elsewhere, they
were very highly recommended - and very good support.
http://www.conitec.com/english/galep5.php
Dave
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Sent: 10 April 2009 04:17
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] OT favorite chip programmer/favorite ROM emulator
By far the best programmer on the planet is still the Data I/O Unisite
(followed by the 3980, 3900, and 2900 prorgrammers). If a Unisite can't
program it, you are in bad shape... it probably can't be programmed.
Bad news is a refurbed Unisite will set you back $25,000 plus the cost of
socket adapters and software. Good news is with a little shopping around on
Ebay, you can possibly snag one for around $100.
The trick is to find one with the socket adapters you need. Also the more
pin driver cards it has installed, the better (a full load is 17 cards/68
pin drivers). Also, one with the internal hard drive (aka MSM, aka Mass
Storage Module) is very desirable. Booting from a (720Kb only) floppy can
take several minutes.
I have purchased several machines just because they had an adapter that I
did not have. Also you need to make sure it comes with a full set of
programming software (generally, the later the version better) because a
current software set from DIO will set you back over $2000...
For more info, check out Bruce Lane's guide to DIO machines on Ebay:
http://reviews.ebay.com/Data-I-O-Device-Programmers-A-Condensed-Reference_W0
QQugidZ10000000001698682?ssPageName=BUYGD:CAT:-1:SEARCH:3
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Sorry everyone
I was sending out my thanks and I accidentally posted to the list-Patrick
Patrick wrote:
Hi David
Thanks for taking the time to post.
Have a great Easter-Patrick
David C. Partridge wrote:
Another one to look at apparently is the Galep model 4(LPT) or 5(USB). I
don't have one but when this question was asked recently elsewhere, they
were very highly recommended - and very good support.
http://www.conitec.com/english/galep5.php
Dave
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Sent: 10 April 2009 04:17
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Subject: [time-nuts] OT favorite chip programmer/favorite ROM emulator
By far the best programmer on the planet is still the Data I/O Unisite
(followed by the 3980, 3900, and 2900 prorgrammers). If a Unisite can't
program it, you are in bad shape... it probably can't be programmed.
Bad news is a refurbed Unisite will set you back $25,000 plus the cost of
socket adapters and software. Good news is with a little shopping around on
Ebay, you can possibly snag one for around $100.
The trick is to find one with the socket adapters you need. Also the more
pin driver cards it has installed, the better (a full load is 17 cards/68
pin drivers). Also, one with the internal hard drive (aka MSM, aka Mass
Storage Module) is very desirable. Booting from a (720Kb only) floppy can
take several minutes.
I have purchased several machines just because they had an adapter that I
did not have. Also you need to make sure it comes with a full set of
programming software (generally, the later the version better) because a
current software set from DIO will set you back over $2000...
For more info, check out Bruce Lane's guide to DIO machines on Ebay:
http://reviews.ebay.com/Data-I-O-Device-Programmers-A-Condensed-Reference_W0
QQugidZ10000000001698682?ssPageName=BUYGD:CAT:-1:SEARCH:3
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