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n2lym

Sun, Nov 2, 2014 9:16 PM

Yes the diagnostic port on the slave unit diaplay's gps data just like
the Z3811. Therefore there must be serial data being exchanged on the 15
pin interconnect.

Mike

N2LYM

Message: 5
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 15:58:20 -0500
From: GandalfG8@aol.com
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A,
Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812...
Message-ID: 868c5.58494d20.4187f4ec@aol.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Just another thought though, does the diagnostic port on the slave also
communicate with SatStat etc?

That would imply at least a transfer of serial data in one direction,
even
if not for the control functions.

Regards

Nigel
GM8PZR

Yes the diagnostic port on the slave unit diaplay's gps data just like the Z3811. Therefore there must be serial data being exchanged on the 15 pin interconnect. Mike N2LYM Message: 5 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 15:58:20 -0500 From: GandalfG8@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812... Message-ID: <868c5.58494d20.4187f4ec@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Just another thought though, does the diagnostic port on the slave also communicate with SatStat etc? That would imply at least a transfer of serial data in one direction, even if not for the control functions. Regards Nigel GM8PZR

BC

Bob Camp

Mon, Nov 3, 2014 2:20 AM

HI

So at least there is one way communications from the GPS box to the slave box.

Bidirectional com would be a bit complex given the lack of UART’s on the pc board. I’d bet it just runs through a standard set of messages on the GPS and watches the results. The way to quickly prove I’m wrong would be to issue a command to the GPS from the slave that it must respond to. Something like go into survey mode or set the location to xxx yyy zzz. I’ve certainly been wrong before.

I suppose they could do dual source TTL com directly at the GPS module level. I’d think that would drive the GPS unit a bit nuts when the slave started switching things around….

Bob

On Nov 2, 2014, at 4:16 PM, n2lym n2lym@optonline.net wrote:

Yes the diagnostic port on the slave unit diaplay's gps data just like the Z3811. Therefore there must be serial data being exchanged on the 15 pin interconnect.

Mike

N2LYM

Message: 5
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 15:58:20 -0500
From: GandalfG8@aol.com
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A,
Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812...
Message-ID: 868c5.58494d20.4187f4ec@aol.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Just another thought though, does the diagnostic port on the slave also
communicate with SatStat etc?

That would imply at least a transfer of serial data in one direction, even
if not for the control functions.

Regards

Nigel
GM8PZR

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HI So at least there is one way communications from the GPS box to the slave box. Bidirectional com would be a bit complex given the lack of UART’s on the pc board. I’d bet it just runs through a standard set of messages on the GPS and watches the results. The way to quickly prove I’m wrong would be to issue a command to the GPS from the slave that it must respond to. Something like go into survey mode or set the location to xxx yyy zzz. I’ve certainly been wrong before. I suppose they could do dual source TTL com directly at the GPS module level. I’d think that would drive the GPS unit a bit nuts when the slave started switching things around…. Bob > On Nov 2, 2014, at 4:16 PM, n2lym <n2lym@optonline.net> wrote: > > Yes the diagnostic port on the slave unit diaplay's gps data just like the Z3811. Therefore there must be serial data being exchanged on the 15 pin interconnect. > > > Mike > > N2LYM > > > > > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 15:58:20 -0500 > From: GandalfG8@aol.com > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, > Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812... > Message-ID: <868c5.58494d20.4187f4ec@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Just another thought though, does the diagnostic port on the slave also > communicate with SatStat etc? > > That would imply at least a transfer of serial data in one direction, even > if not for the control functions. > > Regards > > Nigel > GM8PZR > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

BS

Bob Stewart

Mon, Nov 3, 2014 3:15 AM

Hi Bob,
I am only able to communicate with my system through the REF-0/slave unit. I had thought this was normal behavior till someone, you perhaps, posted that that was not correct. So, I've emailed Aecis to request a replacement REF-1.
Bob From: Bob Camp kb8tq@n1k.org
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3812 Diag port data? RE: time-nuts Digest, Vol 124, Issue 26

HI

So at least there is one way communications from the GPS box to the slave box.

Bidirectional com would be a bit complex given the lack of UART’s on the pc board. I’d bet it just runs through a standard set of messages on the GPS and watches the results. The way to quickly prove I’m wrong would be to issue a command to the GPS from the slave that it must respond to. Something like go into survey mode or set the location to xxx yyy zzz. I’ve certainly been wrong before.

I suppose they could do dual source TTL com directly at the GPS module level. I’d think that would drive the GPS unit a bit nuts when the slave started switching things around….

Bob

On Nov 2, 2014, at 4:16 PM, n2lym n2lym@optonline.net wrote:

Yes the diagnostic port on the slave unit diaplay's gps data just like the Z3811. Therefore there must be serial data being exchanged on the 15 pin interconnect.

Mike

N2LYM

Message: 5
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 15:58:20 -0500
From: GandalfG8@aol.com
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A,
Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812...
Message-ID: 868c5.58494d20.4187f4ec@aol.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Just another thought though, does the diagnostic port on the slave also
communicate with SatStat etc?

That would imply at least a transfer of serial data in one direction, even
if not for the control functions.

Regards

Nigel
GM8PZR

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Hi Bob, I am only able to communicate with my system through the REF-0/slave unit. I had thought this was normal behavior till someone, you perhaps, posted that that was not correct. So, I've emailed Aecis to request a replacement REF-1. Bob From: Bob Camp <kb8tq@n1k.org> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3812 Diag port data? RE: time-nuts Digest, Vol 124, Issue 26 HI So at least there is one way communications from the GPS box to the slave box. Bidirectional com would be a bit complex given the lack of UART’s on the pc board. I’d bet it just runs through a standard set of messages on the GPS and watches the results. The way to quickly prove I’m wrong would be to issue a command to the GPS from the slave that it must respond to. Something like go into survey mode or set the location to xxx yyy zzz. I’ve certainly been wrong before. I suppose they could do dual source TTL com directly at the GPS module level. I’d think that would drive the GPS unit a bit nuts when the slave started switching things around…. Bob > On Nov 2, 2014, at 4:16 PM, n2lym <n2lym@optonline.net> wrote: > > Yes the diagnostic port on the slave unit diaplay's gps data just like the Z3811. Therefore there must be serial data being exchanged on the 15 pin interconnect. > > > Mike > > N2LYM > > > > > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 15:58:20 -0500 > From: GandalfG8@aol.com > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, > Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812... > Message-ID: <868c5.58494d20.4187f4ec@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Just another thought though, does the diagnostic port on the slave also > communicate with SatStat etc? > > That would imply at least a transfer of serial data in one direction, even > if not for the control functions. > > Regards > > Nigel > GM8PZR > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

DL

Don Latham

Mon, Nov 3, 2014 7:32 AM

Does anyone know if Forth is the native tongue of these boards? I have yet to
fire my pair up.
Don

Bob Stewart

Hi Bob,
I am only able to communicate with my system through the REF-0/slave unit. I
had thought this was normal behavior till someone, you perhaps, posted that
that was not correct. So, I've emailed Aecis to request a replacement REF-1.
Bob From: Bob Camp kb8tq@n1k.org
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3812 Diag port data? RE: time-nuts Digest, Vol 124,
Issue 26

HI

So at least there is one way communications from the GPS box to the slave box.

Bidirectional com would be a bit complex given the lack of UART’s on the pc
board. I’d bet it just runs through a standard set of messages on the GPS and
watches the results. The way to quickly prove I’m wrong would be to issue a
command to the GPS from the slave that it must respond to. Something like go
into survey mode or set the location to xxx yyy zzz. I’ve certainly been
wrong before.

I suppose they could do dual source TTL com directly at the GPS module level.
I’d think that would drive the GPS unit a bit nuts when the slave started
switching things around….

Bob

On Nov 2, 2014, at 4:16 PM, n2lym n2lym@optonline.net wrote:

Yes the diagnostic port on the slave unit diaplay's gps data just like the
Z3811. Therefore there must be serial data being exchanged on the 15 pin
interconnect.

Mike

N2LYM

Message: 5
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 15:58:20 -0500
From: GandalfG8@aol.com
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A,
Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812...
Message-ID: 868c5.58494d20.4187f4ec@aol.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Just another thought though, does the diagnostic port on the slave also
communicate with SatStat etc?

That would imply at least a transfer of serial data in one direction, even
if not for the control functions.

Regards

Nigel
GM8PZR

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Does anyone know if Forth is the native tongue of these boards? I have yet to fire my pair up. Don Bob Stewart > Hi Bob, > I am only able to communicate with my system through the REF-0/slave unit. I > had thought this was normal behavior till someone, you perhaps, posted that > that was not correct. So, I've emailed Aecis to request a replacement REF-1. > Bob From: Bob Camp <kb8tq@n1k.org> > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:20 PM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3812 Diag port data? RE: time-nuts Digest, Vol 124, > Issue 26 > > HI > > So at least there is one way communications from the GPS box to the slave box. > > Bidirectional com would be a bit complex given the lack of UART’s on the pc > board. I’d bet it just runs through a standard set of messages on the GPS and > watches the results. The way to quickly prove I’m wrong would be to issue a > command to the GPS from the slave that it must respond to. Something like go > into survey mode or set the location to xxx yyy zzz. I’ve certainly been > wrong before. > > I suppose they could do dual source TTL com directly at the GPS module level. > I’d think that would drive the GPS unit a bit nuts when the slave started > switching things around…. > > Bob > > >> On Nov 2, 2014, at 4:16 PM, n2lym <n2lym@optonline.net> wrote: >> >> Yes the diagnostic port on the slave unit diaplay's gps data just like the >> Z3811. Therefore there must be serial data being exchanged on the 15 pin >> interconnect. >> >> >> Mike >> >> N2LYM >> >> >> >> >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 15:58:20 -0500 >> From: GandalfG8@aol.com >> To: time-nuts@febo.com >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, >> Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812... >> Message-ID: <868c5.58494d20.4187f4ec@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Just another thought though, does the diagnostic port on the slave also >> communicate with SatStat etc? >> >> That would imply at least a transfer of serial data in one direction, even >> if not for the control functions. >> >> Regards >> >> Nigel >> GM8PZR >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > -- "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLC 17850 Six Mile Road Huson, MT, 59846 mail: POBox 404 Frenchtown MT 59834-0404 VOX 406-626-4304 Skype: buffler2 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com

BC

Bob Camp

Mon, Nov 3, 2014 12:17 PM

Hi

Ok, on the slave you have, are you talking to the Diag (HP) port or to the RS-422 / PPS (Lucent) port?

Bob

On Nov 2, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Bob Stewart bob@evoria.net wrote:

Hi Bob,
I am only able to communicate with my system through the REF-0/slave unit. I had thought this was normal behavior till someone, you perhaps, posted that that was not correct. So, I've emailed Aecis to request a replacement REF-1.
Bob From: Bob Camp kb8tq@n1k.org
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3812 Diag port data? RE: time-nuts Digest, Vol 124, Issue 26

HI

So at least there is one way communications from the GPS box to the slave box.

Bidirectional com would be a bit complex given the lack of UART’s on the pc board. I’d bet it just runs through a standard set of messages on the GPS and watches the results. The way to quickly prove I’m wrong would be to issue a command to the GPS from the slave that it must respond to. Something like go into survey mode or set the location to xxx yyy zzz. I’ve certainly been wrong before.

I suppose they could do dual source TTL com directly at the GPS module level. I’d think that would drive the GPS unit a bit nuts when the slave started switching things around….

Bob

On Nov 2, 2014, at 4:16 PM, n2lym n2lym@optonline.net wrote:

Yes the diagnostic port on the slave unit diaplay's gps data just like the Z3811. Therefore there must be serial data being exchanged on the 15 pin interconnect.

Mike

N2LYM

Message: 5
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 15:58:20 -0500
From: GandalfG8@aol.com
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A,
Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812...
Message-ID: 868c5.58494d20.4187f4ec@aol.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Just another thought though, does the diagnostic port on the slave also
communicate with SatStat etc?

That would imply at least a transfer of serial data in one direction, even
if not for the control functions.

Regards

Nigel
GM8PZR

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Hi Ok, on the slave you have, are you talking to the Diag (HP) port or to the RS-422 / PPS (Lucent) port? Bob > On Nov 2, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Bob Stewart <bob@evoria.net> wrote: > > Hi Bob, > I am only able to communicate with my system through the REF-0/slave unit. I had thought this was normal behavior till someone, you perhaps, posted that that was not correct. So, I've emailed Aecis to request a replacement REF-1. > Bob From: Bob Camp <kb8tq@n1k.org> > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:20 PM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3812 Diag port data? RE: time-nuts Digest, Vol 124, Issue 26 > > HI > > So at least there is one way communications from the GPS box to the slave box. > > Bidirectional com would be a bit complex given the lack of UART’s on the pc board. I’d bet it just runs through a standard set of messages on the GPS and watches the results. The way to quickly prove I’m wrong would be to issue a command to the GPS from the slave that it must respond to. Something like go into survey mode or set the location to xxx yyy zzz. I’ve certainly been wrong before. > > I suppose they could do dual source TTL com directly at the GPS module level. I’d think that would drive the GPS unit a bit nuts when the slave started switching things around…. > > Bob > > >> On Nov 2, 2014, at 4:16 PM, n2lym <n2lym@optonline.net> wrote: >> >> Yes the diagnostic port on the slave unit diaplay's gps data just like the Z3811. Therefore there must be serial data being exchanged on the 15 pin interconnect. >> >> >> Mike >> >> N2LYM >> >> >> >> >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 15:58:20 -0500 >> From: GandalfG8@aol.com >> To: time-nuts@febo.com >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, >> Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812... >> Message-ID: <868c5.58494d20.4187f4ec@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Just another thought though, does the diagnostic port on the slave also >> communicate with SatStat etc? >> >> That would imply at least a transfer of serial data in one direction, even >> if not for the control functions. >> >> Regards >> >> Nigel >> GM8PZR >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

BS

Bob Stewart

Mon, Nov 3, 2014 3:12 PM

Hi Bob,
Talking on J8-Diagnostic port. All I see on the RS-422 port is a timestamp.

Bob From: Bob Camp kb8tq@n1k.org
To: Bob Stewart bob@evoria.net; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3812 Diag port data? RE: time-nuts Digest, Vol 124, Issue 26

Hi

Ok, on the slave you have, are you talking to the Diag (HP) port or to the RS-422 / PPS (Lucent) port?

Bob

On Nov 2, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Bob Stewart bob@evoria.net wrote:

Hi Bob,
I am only able to communicate with my system through the REF-0/slave unit. I had thought this was normal behavior till someone, you perhaps, posted that that was not correct. So, I've emailed Aecis to request a replacement REF-1.
Bob From: Bob Camp kb8tq@n1k.org
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3812 Diag port data? RE: time-nuts Digest, Vol 124, Issue 26

HI

So at least there is one way communications from the GPS box to the slave box.

Bidirectional com would be a bit complex given the lack of UART’s on the pc board. I’d bet it just runs through a standard set of messages on the GPS and watches the results. The way to quickly prove I’m wrong would be to issue a command to the GPS from the slave that it must respond to. Something like go into survey mode or set the location to xxx yyy zzz. I’ve certainly been wrong before.

I suppose they could do dual source TTL com directly at the GPS module level. I’d think that would drive the GPS unit a bit nuts when the slave started switching things around….

Bob

On Nov 2, 2014, at 4:16 PM, n2lym n2lym@optonline.net wrote:

Yes the diagnostic port on the slave unit diaplay's gps data just like the Z3811. Therefore there must be serial data being exchanged on the 15 pin interconnect.

Mike

N2LYM

Message: 5
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 15:58:20 -0500
From: GandalfG8@aol.com
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A,
Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812...
Message-ID: 868c5.58494d20.4187f4ec@aol.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Just another thought though, does the diagnostic port on the slave also
communicate with SatStat etc?

That would imply at least a transfer of serial data in one direction, even
if not for the control functions.

Regards

Nigel
GM8PZR

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Hi Bob, Talking on J8-Diagnostic port. All I see on the RS-422 port is a timestamp. Bob From: Bob Camp <kb8tq@n1k.org> To: Bob Stewart <bob@evoria.net>; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 6:17 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3812 Diag port data? RE: time-nuts Digest, Vol 124, Issue 26 Hi Ok, on the slave you have, are you talking to the Diag (HP) port or to the RS-422 / PPS (Lucent) port? Bob > On Nov 2, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Bob Stewart <bob@evoria.net> wrote: > > Hi Bob, > I am only able to communicate with my system through the REF-0/slave unit. I had thought this was normal behavior till someone, you perhaps, posted that that was not correct. So, I've emailed Aecis to request a replacement REF-1. > Bob From: Bob Camp <kb8tq@n1k.org> > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:20 PM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3812 Diag port data? RE: time-nuts Digest, Vol 124, Issue 26 > > HI > > So at least there is one way communications from the GPS box to the slave box. > > Bidirectional com would be a bit complex given the lack of UART’s on the pc board. I’d bet it just runs through a standard set of messages on the GPS and watches the results. The way to quickly prove I’m wrong would be to issue a command to the GPS from the slave that it must respond to. Something like go into survey mode or set the location to xxx yyy zzz. I’ve certainly been wrong before. > > I suppose they could do dual source TTL com directly at the GPS module level. I’d think that would drive the GPS unit a bit nuts when the slave started switching things around…. > > Bob > > >> On Nov 2, 2014, at 4:16 PM, n2lym <n2lym@optonline.net> wrote: >> >> Yes the diagnostic port on the slave unit diaplay's gps data just like the Z3811. Therefore there must be serial data being exchanged on the 15 pin interconnect. >> >> >> Mike >> >> N2LYM >> >> >> >> >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 15:58:20 -0500 >> From: GandalfG8@aol.com >> To: time-nuts@febo.com >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, >> Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812... >> Message-ID: <868c5.58494d20.4187f4ec@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Just another thought though, does the diagnostic port on the slave also >> communicate with SatStat etc? >> >> That would imply at least a transfer of serial data in one direction, even >> if not for the control functions. >> >> Regards >> >> Nigel >> GM8PZR >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

BR

Bill Riches

Mon, Nov 3, 2014 7:23 PM

Just loaded Satstat and found that it would not work with windoze 7 64 bit. Is there a 64 bit version around or do I dig out an old xp machine - or what program has been found to work?

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Just loaded Satstat and found that it would not work with windoze 7 64 bit. Is there a 64 bit version around or do I dig out an old xp machine - or what program has been found to work? Bill, WA2DVU Cape May --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

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Bob Camp

Tue, Nov 4, 2014 1:47 AM

Hi

On my pair of boxes, the slave is the one that is active. The GPS is the one that is inactive (standby). Plugging into the RS-422 / PPS port, I see a pps and a GPS timestamp, and the status bits. That tells me that the slave box must be seeing the GPS data strings from the GPS box.

It still leaves the question of “can you talk back to the GPS from the slave?” open.

My boxes were flakey at first. What I finally figured out was that the interface cable was the weak link. I’d bet that the short pins don’t mate quite well enough with their sockets. After some wiggling all has been ok for a while.

Bob

On Nov 3, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Bob Stewart bob@evoria.net wrote:

Hi Bob,
Talking on J8-Diagnostic port. All I see on the RS-422 port is a timestamp.

Bob From: Bob Camp kb8tq@n1k.org
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Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3812 Diag port data? RE: time-nuts Digest, Vol 124, Issue 26

Hi

Ok, on the slave you have, are you talking to the Diag (HP) port or to the RS-422 / PPS (Lucent) port?

Bob

On Nov 2, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Bob Stewart bob@evoria.net wrote:

Hi Bob,
I am only able to communicate with my system through the REF-0/slave unit. I had thought this was normal behavior till someone, you perhaps, posted that that was not correct. So, I've emailed Aecis to request a replacement REF-1.
Bob From: Bob Camp kb8tq@n1k.org
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Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3812 Diag port data? RE: time-nuts Digest, Vol 124, Issue 26

HI

So at least there is one way communications from the GPS box to the slave box.

Bidirectional com would be a bit complex given the lack of UART’s on the pc board. I’d bet it just runs through a standard set of messages on the GPS and watches the results. The way to quickly prove I’m wrong would be to issue a command to the GPS from the slave that it must respond to. Something like go into survey mode or set the location to xxx yyy zzz. I’ve certainly been wrong before.

I suppose they could do dual source TTL com directly at the GPS module level. I’d think that would drive the GPS unit a bit nuts when the slave started switching things around….

Bob

On Nov 2, 2014, at 4:16 PM, n2lym n2lym@optonline.net wrote:

Yes the diagnostic port on the slave unit diaplay's gps data just like the Z3811. Therefore there must be serial data being exchanged on the 15 pin interconnect.

Mike

N2LYM

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Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 15:58:20 -0500
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A,
Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812...
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Just another thought though, does the diagnostic port on the slave also
communicate with SatStat etc?

That would imply at least a transfer of serial data in one direction, even
if not for the control functions.

Regards

Nigel
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Hi On my pair of boxes, the slave is the one that is active. The GPS is the one that is inactive (standby). Plugging into the RS-422 / PPS port, I see a pps and a GPS timestamp, and the status bits. That tells me that the slave box *must* be seeing the GPS data strings from the GPS box. It still leaves the question of “can you talk back to the GPS from the slave?” open. My boxes were flakey at first. What I finally figured out was that the interface cable was the weak link. I’d bet that the short pins don’t mate quite well enough with their sockets. After some wiggling all has been ok for a while. Bob > On Nov 3, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Bob Stewart <bob@evoria.net> wrote: > > Hi Bob, > Talking on J8-Diagnostic port. All I see on the RS-422 port is a timestamp. > > Bob From: Bob Camp <kb8tq@n1k.org> > To: Bob Stewart <bob@evoria.net>; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 6:17 AM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3812 Diag port data? RE: time-nuts Digest, Vol 124, Issue 26 > > Hi > > Ok, on the slave you have, are you talking to the Diag (HP) port or to the RS-422 / PPS (Lucent) port? > > Bob > > > >> On Nov 2, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Bob Stewart <bob@evoria.net> wrote: >> >> Hi Bob, >> I am only able to communicate with my system through the REF-0/slave unit. I had thought this was normal behavior till someone, you perhaps, posted that that was not correct. So, I've emailed Aecis to request a replacement REF-1. >> Bob From: Bob Camp <kb8tq@n1k.org> >> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> >> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:20 PM >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3812 Diag port data? RE: time-nuts Digest, Vol 124, Issue 26 >> >> HI >> >> So at least there is one way communications from the GPS box to the slave box. >> >> Bidirectional com would be a bit complex given the lack of UART’s on the pc board. I’d bet it just runs through a standard set of messages on the GPS and watches the results. The way to quickly prove I’m wrong would be to issue a command to the GPS from the slave that it must respond to. Something like go into survey mode or set the location to xxx yyy zzz. I’ve certainly been wrong before. >> >> I suppose they could do dual source TTL com directly at the GPS module level. I’d think that would drive the GPS unit a bit nuts when the slave started switching things around…. >> >> Bob >> >> >>> On Nov 2, 2014, at 4:16 PM, n2lym <n2lym@optonline.net> wrote: >>> >>> Yes the diagnostic port on the slave unit diaplay's gps data just like the Z3811. Therefore there must be serial data being exchanged on the 15 pin interconnect. >>> >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> N2LYM >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 15:58:20 -0500 >>> From: GandalfG8@aol.com >>> To: time-nuts@febo.com >>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, >>> Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812... >>> Message-ID: <868c5.58494d20.4187f4ec@aol.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> Just another thought though, does the diagnostic port on the slave also >>> communicate with SatStat etc? >>> >>> That would imply at least a transfer of serial data in one direction, even >>> if not for the control functions. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Nigel >>> GM8PZR >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

DL

Don Latham

Tue, Nov 4, 2014 6:23 AM

Bob and all: Haven't hookedd upmy units yet. Marlon P Jones (MPJA) has some
Real Cheap 15 pin m-m cables that are 1 ft long, might be useful. no clipped
pins, whatever they're for. I don't think many of us want to hot-plug that
cable?
Don

Bob Camp

My boxes were flakey at first. What I finally figured out was that the
interface cable was the weak link. I’d bet that the short pins don’t mate
quite well enough with their sockets. After some wiggling all has been ok for
a while.

--
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who
have not got it."
-George Bernard Shaw

Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL
Six Mile Systems LLC
17850 Six Mile Road
Huson, MT, 59846
mail: POBox 404
Frenchtown MT 59834-0404
VOX 406-626-4304
Skype: buffler2
www.lightningforensics.com
www.sixmilesystems.com

Bob and all: Haven't hookedd upmy units yet. Marlon P Jones (MPJA) has some Real Cheap 15 pin m-m cables that are 1 ft long, might be useful. no clipped pins, whatever they're for. I don't think many of us want to hot-plug that cable? Don Bob Camp > > My boxes were flakey at first. What I finally figured out was that the > interface cable was the weak link. I’d bet that the short pins don’t mate > quite well enough with their sockets. After some wiggling all has been ok for > a while. > -- "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLC 17850 Six Mile Road Huson, MT, 59846 mail: POBox 404 Frenchtown MT 59834-0404 VOX 406-626-4304 Skype: buffler2 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com

TM

Tom Miller

Tue, Nov 4, 2014 6:32 AM

If they are straight wired pin 1 to pin 1, pin 2 to pin 2, etc, they will
not work.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Latham" djl@montana.com
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time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 1:23 AM
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124, Issue 26

Bob and all: Haven't hookedd upmy units yet. Marlon P Jones (MPJA) has
some
Real Cheap 15 pin m-m cables that are 1 ft long, might be useful. no
clipped
pins, whatever they're for. I don't think many of us want to hot-plug that
cable?
Don

Bob Camp

My boxes were flakey at first. What I finally figured out was that the
interface cable was the weak link. I’d bet that the short pins don’t mate
quite well enough with their sockets. After some wiggling all has been ok
for
a while.

--
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those
who
have not got it."
-George Bernard Shaw

Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL
Six Mile Systems LLC
17850 Six Mile Road
Huson, MT, 59846
mail: POBox 404
Frenchtown MT 59834-0404
VOX 406-626-4304
Skype: buffler2
www.lightningforensics.com
www.sixmilesystems.com

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If they are straight wired pin 1 to pin 1, pin 2 to pin 2, etc, they will not work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Latham" <djl@montana.com> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3812 Diag port data? RE: time-nuts Digest, Vol 124, Issue 26 > Bob and all: Haven't hookedd upmy units yet. Marlon P Jones (MPJA) has > some > Real Cheap 15 pin m-m cables that are 1 ft long, might be useful. no > clipped > pins, whatever they're for. I don't think many of us want to hot-plug that > cable? > Don > > Bob Camp >> >> My boxes were flakey at first. What I finally figured out was that the >> interface cable was the weak link. I’d bet that the short pins don’t mate >> quite well enough with their sockets. After some wiggling all has been ok >> for >> a while. >> > > -- > "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those > who > have not got it." > -George Bernard Shaw > > Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL > Six Mile Systems LLC > 17850 Six Mile Road > Huson, MT, 59846 > mail: POBox 404 > Frenchtown MT 59834-0404 > VOX 406-626-4304 > Skype: buffler2 > www.lightningforensics.com > www.sixmilesystems.com > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

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