Hi all thank you I have now printed out the dater sheets for The ICS570B NB3N502 ICS 512 These are all new to me so my next question are there any PCB's available for any of the above For best timing work should I go for Sq wave or sine wave output and out of the 3 is their a preference Must do some work and reading so Thank you to all Paul B south coast UK -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of paul swed Sent: 09 September 2019 20:10 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5 Mhz to 10 Mhz and 25 Mhz Have to say that chip looks identical to what Burt sent earlier. Settings and all. On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 3:01 PM Bob via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > You might look at the NB3N502 PLL mult chip. I've used this chip on my > rubidium interface board and other projects. It's cheap, current > production and does a number of multipliers from 2X 2.5X 3X 3.333333x 4X > and 5X Available from Mouser and others. I'm using one in a hybrid CW > transmitter as a nearly coil-less scheme with a 6CL6 final. all 5 bands > from either a 80 meter or 40 meter crystal. Keys really clean too. > Bob, KE6F > > > -----Original Message----- > From: paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement < > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> > Sent: Mon, Sep 9, 2019 9:01 am > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5 Mhz to 10 Mhz and 25 Mhz > > Bert was looking at the ICS512 and have to agree the price is cheap. How > have you applied them. It seems really simple. Do you follow with > filtering. Looking at 5 > 10 MHz and 5 > 15... > regards > Paul > WB8TSL > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 7:03 AM ew via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> > wrote: > > > PaulThe easiest way is one or two ICS512 or ICS570B we use the 570 > > extensively. Digi Key and ebay have both > > Bert Kehren > > In a message dated 9/8/2019 10:49:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, > > paul@bicknells.f2s.com writes: > > > > Dear all > > > > Can any one point me in the direction of a circuit that can convert > > 5 Mhz signal to give me 2 outputs one at 10 Mhz and another at 25 Mhz > > > > > > Regards Paul B > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.8048 / Virus Database: 4793/15884 - Release Date: 08/14/18 Internal Virus Database is out of date.

I looked for breakouts/eval boards for these. Only one I found was $250.00 nuts. maybe an 8=pin SOIC adapter board will do the job? found on dear ol' Amazon for cheap. Don On 2019-09-09 15:24, Paul Bicknell wrote: > Hi all thank you I have now printed out the dater sheets for > > The ICS570B NB3N502 ICS 512 > > These are all new to me so my next question are there any PCB's > available > for any of the above > > For best timing work should I go for Sq wave or sine wave output and > out of > the 3 is their a preference > > Must do some work and reading so > Thank you to all Paul B south coast UK > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of > paul > swed > Sent: 09 September 2019 20:10 > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5 Mhz to 10 Mhz and 25 Mhz > > Have to say that chip looks identical to what Burt sent earlier. > Settings > and all. > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 3:01 PM Bob via time-nuts > <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> > wrote: > >> You might look at the NB3N502 PLL mult chip. I've used this chip on >> my >> rubidium interface board and other projects. It's cheap, current >> production and does a number of multipliers from 2X 2.5X 3X 3.333333x >> 4X >> and 5X Available from Mouser and others. I'm using one in a hybrid >> CW >> transmitter as a nearly coil-less scheme with a 6CL6 final. all 5 >> bands >> from either a 80 meter or 40 meter crystal. Keys really clean too. >> Bob, KE6F >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> >> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement < >> time-nuts@lists.febo.com> >> Sent: Mon, Sep 9, 2019 9:01 am >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5 Mhz to 10 Mhz and 25 Mhz >> >> Bert was looking at the ICS512 and have to agree the price is cheap. >> How >> have you applied them. It seems really simple. Do you follow with >> filtering. Looking at 5 > 10 MHz and 5 > 15... >> regards >> Paul >> WB8TSL >> >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 7:03 AM ew via time-nuts >> <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> >> wrote: >> >> > PaulThe easiest way is one or two ICS512 or ICS570B we use the 570 >> > extensively. Digi Key and ebay have both >> > Bert Kehren >> > In a message dated 9/8/2019 10:49:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, >> > paul@bicknells.f2s.com writes: >> > >> > Dear all >> > >> > Can any one point me in the direction of a circuit that can convert >> > 5 Mhz signal to give me 2 outputs one at 10 Mhz and another at 25 Mhz >> > >> > >> > Regards Paul B >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> > To unsubscribe, go to >> > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> > and follow the instructions there. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> > To unsubscribe, go to >> > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> > and follow the instructions there. >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.8048 / Virus Database: 4793/15884 - Release Date: > 08/14/18 > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. -- Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL PO Box 404, Frenchtown, MT, 59834 VOX: 406-626-4304

I looked at all of the details and a breakout board works. These are SOIC-8's so the pin spacing is 1/2 of a normal IC. Believe .05". But still solderable. The NB3N502 is just a bit cheaper then the others and at least a bit of application data is out there. Another approach would be dead bug style on a copper ground plain. It will work. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 8:32 AM djl <djl@montana.com> wrote: > I looked for breakouts/eval boards for these. Only one I found was > $250.00 nuts. maybe an 8=pin SOIC adapter board will do the job? found > on dear ol' Amazon for cheap. > Don > > On 2019-09-09 15:24, Paul Bicknell wrote: > > Hi all thank you I have now printed out the dater sheets for > > > > The ICS570B NB3N502 ICS 512 > > > > These are all new to me so my next question are there any PCB's > > available > > for any of the above > > > > For best timing work should I go for Sq wave or sine wave output and > > out of > > the 3 is their a preference > > > > Must do some work and reading so > > Thank you to all Paul B south coast UK > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of > > paul > > swed > > Sent: 09 September 2019 20:10 > > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5 Mhz to 10 Mhz and 25 Mhz > > > > Have to say that chip looks identical to what Burt sent earlier. > > Settings > > and all. > > > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 3:01 PM Bob via time-nuts > > <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> > > wrote: > > > >> You might look at the NB3N502 PLL mult chip. I've used this chip on > >> my > >> rubidium interface board and other projects. It's cheap, current > >> production and does a number of multipliers from 2X 2.5X 3X 3.333333x > >> 4X > >> and 5X Available from Mouser and others. I'm using one in a hybrid > >> CW > >> transmitter as a nearly coil-less scheme with a 6CL6 final. all 5 > >> bands > >> from either a 80 meter or 40 meter crystal. Keys really clean too. > >> Bob, KE6F > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> > >> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement < > >> time-nuts@lists.febo.com> > >> Sent: Mon, Sep 9, 2019 9:01 am > >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5 Mhz to 10 Mhz and 25 Mhz > >> > >> Bert was looking at the ICS512 and have to agree the price is cheap. > >> How > >> have you applied them. It seems really simple. Do you follow with > >> filtering. Looking at 5 > 10 MHz and 5 > 15... > >> regards > >> Paul > >> WB8TSL > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 7:03 AM ew via time-nuts > >> <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > PaulThe easiest way is one or two ICS512 or ICS570B we use the 570 > >> > extensively. Digi Key and ebay have both > >> > Bert Kehren > >> > In a message dated 9/8/2019 10:49:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, > >> > paul@bicknells.f2s.com writes: > >> > > >> > Dear all > >> > > >> > Can any one point me in the direction of a circuit that can convert > >> > 5 Mhz signal to give me 2 outputs one at 10 Mhz and another at 25 Mhz > >> > > >> > > >> > Regards Paul B > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > >> > To unsubscribe, go to > >> > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > >> > and follow the instructions there. > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > >> > To unsubscribe, go to > >> > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > >> > and follow the instructions there. > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > >> To unsubscribe, go to > >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > >> and follow the instructions there. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > >> To unsubscribe, go to > >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > >> and follow the instructions there. > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2016.0.8048 / Virus Database: 4793/15884 - Release Date: > > 08/14/18 > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > and follow the instructions there. > > -- > Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL > PO Box 404, Frenchtown, MT, 59834 > VOX: 406-626-4304 > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. >

Don, don't worry too much about soldering the 8-pin SOIC's. You've been soldering 0.05" pitch TO-92's for decades. And each 4-pin side of a SOIC is 0.05" pitch as well. Rather than use an adapter with perfboard, I'd advise going with dead-bug with all grounded SOIC pins going straight to copper PCB and the other ones flying. The flying SOIC pins you can stagger-bend to make them easier to tack parts to. Tim N3QE On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 8:32 AM djl <djl@montana.com> wrote: > I looked for breakouts/eval boards for these. Only one I found was > $250.00 nuts. maybe an 8=pin SOIC adapter board will do the job? found > on dear ol' Amazon for cheap. > Don > > On 2019-09-09 15:24, Paul Bicknell wrote: > > Hi all thank you I have now printed out the dater sheets for > > > > The ICS570B NB3N502 ICS 512 > > > > These are all new to me so my next question are there any PCB's > > available > > for any of the above > > > > For best timing work should I go for Sq wave or sine wave output and > > out of > > the 3 is their a preference > > > > Must do some work and reading so > > Thank you to all Paul B south coast UK > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of > > paul > > swed > > Sent: 09 September 2019 20:10 > > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5 Mhz to 10 Mhz and 25 Mhz > > > > Have to say that chip looks identical to what Burt sent earlier. > > Settings > > and all. > > > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 3:01 PM Bob via time-nuts > > <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> > > wrote: > > > >> You might look at the NB3N502 PLL mult chip. I've used this chip on > >> my > >> rubidium interface board and other projects. It's cheap, current > >> production and does a number of multipliers from 2X 2.5X 3X 3.333333x > >> 4X > >> and 5X Available from Mouser and others. I'm using one in a hybrid > >> CW > >> transmitter as a nearly coil-less scheme with a 6CL6 final. all 5 > >> bands > >> from either a 80 meter or 40 meter crystal. Keys really clean too. > >> Bob, KE6F > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> > >> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement < > >> time-nuts@lists.febo.com> > >> Sent: Mon, Sep 9, 2019 9:01 am > >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5 Mhz to 10 Mhz and 25 Mhz > >> > >> Bert was looking at the ICS512 and have to agree the price is cheap. > >> How > >> have you applied them. It seems really simple. Do you follow with > >> filtering. Looking at 5 > 10 MHz and 5 > 15... > >> regards > >> Paul > >> WB8TSL > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 7:03 AM ew via time-nuts > >> <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > PaulThe easiest way is one or two ICS512 or ICS570B we use the 570 > >> > extensively. Digi Key and ebay have both > >> > Bert Kehren > >> > In a message dated 9/8/2019 10:49:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, > >> > paul@bicknells.f2s.com writes: > >> > > >> > Dear all > >> > > >> > Can any one point me in the direction of a circuit that can convert > >> > 5 Mhz signal to give me 2 outputs one at 10 Mhz and another at 25 Mhz > >> > > >> > > >> > Regards Paul B > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > >> > To unsubscribe, go to > >> > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > >> > and follow the instructions there. > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > >> > To unsubscribe, go to > >> > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > >> > and follow the instructions there. > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > >> To unsubscribe, go to > >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > >> and follow the instructions there. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > >> To unsubscribe, go to > >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > >> and follow the instructions there. > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2016.0.8048 / Virus Database: 4793/15884 - Release Date: > > 08/14/18 > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > and follow the instructions there. > > -- > Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL > PO Box 404, Frenchtown, MT, 59834 > VOX: 406-626-4304 > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. >

Not sure if it's using the same device, may be ICS501... but this appears to be the same functionality a bit cheaper: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clock-Multiplier-Module-Frequency-Multiplier-Module-2-50MHz-NEW/283386087346 I haven't tried one yet... On 10/09/2019 07:51, djl wrote: > I looked for breakouts/eval boards for these.  Only one I found was > $250.00 nuts.   maybe an 8=pin SOIC adapter board will do the job? > found on dear ol' Amazon for cheap. > Don > > On 2019-09-09 15:24, Paul Bicknell wrote: >> Hi all thank you I have now printed out the dater sheets for >> >> The  ICS570B        NB3N502        ICS 512 >> >> These are all new to me so my next question are there any PCB's >> available >> for any of the above >> >> For best timing  work should I go for Sq wave or sine wave output and >> out of >> the 3 is their a preference >> >> Must do some work and reading  so >> Thank you to all  Paul B  south coast   UK >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf >> Of paul >> swed >> Sent: 09 September 2019 20:10 >> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5 Mhz to 10 Mhz and 25 Mhz >> >> Have to say that chip looks identical to what Burt sent earlier. >> Settings >> and all. >> >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 3:01 PM Bob via time-nuts >> <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> >> wrote: >> >>> You might look at the NB3N502  PLL mult chip. I've used this chip on my >>> rubidium interface board and other projects.  It's cheap, current >>> production and does a number of multipliers from 2X 2.5X 3X >>> 3.333333x 4X >>> and 5X  Available from Mouser and others.  I'm using one in a hybrid CW >>> transmitter as a nearly coil-less scheme with a 6CL6 final.  all 5 >>> bands >>> from either a 80 meter or 40 meter crystal. Keys really clean too. >>> Bob, KE6F >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> >>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement < >>> time-nuts@lists.febo.com> >>> Sent: Mon, Sep 9, 2019 9:01 am >>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5 Mhz to 10 Mhz and 25 Mhz >>> >>> Bert was looking at the ICS512 and have to agree the price is cheap. >>> How >>> have you applied them. It seems really simple. Do you follow with >>> filtering. Looking at 5 > 10 MHz and 5 > 15... >>> regards >>> Paul >>> WB8TSL >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 7:03 AM ew via time-nuts >>> <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > PaulThe easiest way is one or two  ICS512 or ICS570B we use the 570 >>> > extensively. Digi Key and ebay have both >>> > Bert Kehren >>> > In a message dated 9/8/2019 10:49:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, >>> > paul@bicknells.f2s.com writes: >>> > >>> > Dear all >>> > >>> > Can any one point me in the direction of a circuit that can convert >>> > 5 Mhz signal to give me 2 outputs one at 10 Mhz and another at 25 Mhz >>> > >>> > >>> > Regards Paul B >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >>> > To unsubscribe, go to >>> > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >>> > and follow the instructions there. >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >>> > To unsubscribe, go to >>> > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >>> > and follow the instructions there. >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to >>> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >>> and follow the instructions there. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to >>> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >>> and follow the instructions there. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2016.0.8048 / Virus Database: 4793/15884 - Release Date: >> 08/14/18 >> Internal Virus Database is out of date. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. > -- Stephen Tompsett (G8LYB) Tel: 01788 578940 Mob: 07956 855816