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Mike Tellup
Wed, Jan 15, 2003 3:19 PM

All Hands,

Some of you use a mail filtering program which requires the sender to authenticate
themselves before the mail will be placed into your Inbox.

If you set up one of these programs, please include the TWGL address as a valid one
from the outset. If you do not automatically allow messages, you will not receive any
from the list.  The message will "bounce" back to the server.

Excessive bounces will result in the offending email address being unsubscribed
automatically by the mailman software.

The TWGL address is:  trawler-world-great-loop@lists.samurai.com

How this is implemented may vary among mail filtering programs.  If you encounter
problems, check your mail filtering program's documentation.

Thank you.

Mike Tellup
TWGL Listmaster

All Hands, Some of you use a mail filtering program which requires the sender to authenticate themselves before the mail will be placed into your Inbox. If you set up one of these programs, please include the TWGL address as a valid one from the outset. If you do not automatically allow messages, you will not receive any from the list. The message will "bounce" back to the server. Excessive bounces will result in the offending email address being unsubscribed automatically by the mailman software. The TWGL address is: trawler-world-great-loop@lists.samurai.com How this is implemented may vary among mail filtering programs. If you encounter problems, check your mail filtering program's documentation. Thank you. Mike Tellup TWGL Listmaster
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Schooley
Thu, Jan 16, 2003 4:51 AM

I have added a frequently asked questions (FAQ) page to my web site
www.portager.info (no advertisements or pop-ups, it is just for
trailerable trawler info) the direct link for the FAQ is
http://www.portager.info/Trailerable_trawler_FAQ.htm .

On the FAQ page, there is a link to my potentially trailerable or maybe
transportable trawler list. The direct link is
http://www.portager.info/Trailerable_boat_list_name.htm .

If you see any potentially trailerable trawlers that I missed or find
any errors, please let me know so I can update my list.

Regards;
Mike Schooley

I have added a frequently asked questions (FAQ) page to my web site www.portager.info (no advertisements or pop-ups, it is just for trailerable trawler info) the direct link for the FAQ is http://www.portager.info/Trailerable_trawler_FAQ.htm . On the FAQ page, there is a link to my potentially trailerable or maybe transportable trawler list. The direct link is http://www.portager.info/Trailerable_boat_list_name.htm . If you see any potentially trailerable trawlers that I missed or find any errors, please let me know so I can update my list. Regards; Mike Schooley
MK
M. Kenneth McQuage
Thu, Jan 16, 2003 5:32 AM

Mike,
On one of our trips to the Hudson we met at Coeymans marina a retired
machinist  who had a Nordic Tug - 26 I believe - who lived in Cape Cod and
carried this boat on the wooden bed of a Mitsubishi ( sp ) truck - of the
normally cube delivery truck size - diesel type . Most interesting fellow .
He and his wife  drove wherever they wanted to cruise - living aboard as
they went - and had it off loaded by the marina  - leaving the truck while
they cruised for as long as they wanted - reloaded it and went home - or on
to their next cruising area of choice ..

  It was  a  most interesting option of  trawler mobility . Sadly I do

not think I have a pic of his rig .

 All the Best
        Ken
        m/v Mrs. Hudson
Mike, On one of our trips to the Hudson we met at Coeymans marina a retired machinist who had a Nordic Tug - 26 I believe - who lived in Cape Cod and carried this boat on the wooden bed of a Mitsubishi ( sp ) truck - of the normally cube delivery truck size - diesel type . Most interesting fellow . He and his wife drove wherever they wanted to cruise - living aboard as they went - and had it off loaded by the marina - leaving the truck while they cruised for as long as they wanted - reloaded it and went home - or on to their next cruising area of choice .. It was a most interesting option of trawler mobility . Sadly I do not think I have a pic of his rig . All the Best Ken m/v Mrs. Hudson
PL
Phil Little
Fri, Jan 31, 2003 1:06 AM

Mike,

Excellent reference. Thanks for your labors.

I have had the "TT" philosophy since 1977, when I
purchased my Carver 25' Santa Cruz flybridge sedan,
235 hp gas power (1.8 mpg at 20 mph, 2.8 at 7 mph),
one you might want to add to the list. OOP, but many
good used around.

Total weight of the boat and trailer is approx. 8600
lbs., pulled with my Chevy 454 gas 1-ton dually
pickup. I paid the princely sum of $16000 for this
boat and trailer in '77, and I would replace it with
exactly the same thing, today, and not have to spend
more than $5000.

I can go from Milwaukee, my home, to Spanish, ON, in
the center of the North Channel, in 13 hours, about
550 miles, leaving in the morning and be in my first
anchorage well before dark.

Meanwhile, all my friends with big-buck boats the size
of a condo, sit in the marina and lament "Well, I'd
sure like to go to the NC but I haven't got the month
that it would take" plus they don't want to spend the
fuel and take the bad-weather beating that they are
sure to get, a week on the water each way!

Ho, ho, ho, I can't help thinking, as I spend a week
or two in the NC or perhaps in the Keweenau peninsula
in Lake Superior (8 hrs. road time) or our wisconsin
paradise, Door County (5 hrs).

Plus, the boat can't sink on the trailer! And I
haven't painted the bottom in 20 years!

This boat is the biggest bargain in trawlerdom - it's
got upper and lower stations, a 4-person dinette, a
huge v-berth, a large cockpit, good-sized galley area
with a lot of counter space, a stand-up head, camper
canvas, and a large flybridge. Combined with flat
weather decks, nonskid, toe rails and lifelines, you'd
be able to convince yourself that it's a REAL boat!
and not one of these Italian-styled airless tubs on
which you can't even go forward to handle an anchor!

They ain't boats!!

I also prefer mine over a tug lookalike, that costs
$75-150 grand and has less interior volume or
deckspace than I've got.

For 2 people, it is comfortable for weeks. Next year,
I will trail to Seattle for the Inside Passage,
perhaps, or maybe NY State for a canal trip.

Sure, it's a shallow-V,lighter displacement boat, but
I dont have to cross angry bodies of water to get to
the great spots and inshore areas. When it comes to
weather: Cruise the best and outrun the rest!

I only get 6 mpg (at 65 mph!)with the tow vehicle, but
that works pretty good for going to FL for a cruise,
for instance. Great Loop? Meetcha in Miami!

I would recommend this specific boat to anyone who
wants to go cruising in a smaller boat. And that $75
grand that you'll save will buy a lot of gasoline!

Phil Little
Milwaukee, WI


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Mike, Excellent reference. Thanks for your labors. I have had the "TT" philosophy since 1977, when I purchased my Carver 25' Santa Cruz flybridge sedan, 235 hp gas power (1.8 mpg at 20 mph, 2.8 at 7 mph), one you might want to add to the list. OOP, but many good used around. Total weight of the boat and trailer is approx. 8600 lbs., pulled with my Chevy 454 gas 1-ton dually pickup. I paid the princely sum of $16000 for this boat and trailer in '77, and I would replace it with exactly the same thing, today, and not have to spend more than $5000. I can go from Milwaukee, my home, to Spanish, ON, in the center of the North Channel, in 13 hours, about 550 miles, leaving in the morning and be in my first anchorage well before dark. Meanwhile, all my friends with big-buck boats the size of a condo, sit in the marina and lament "Well, I'd sure like to go to the NC but I haven't got the month that it would take" plus they don't want to spend the fuel and take the bad-weather beating that they are sure to get, a week on the water each way! Ho, ho, ho, I can't help thinking, as I spend a week or two in the NC or perhaps in the Keweenau peninsula in Lake Superior (8 hrs. road time) or our wisconsin paradise, Door County (5 hrs). Plus, the boat can't sink on the trailer! And I haven't painted the bottom in 20 years! This boat is the biggest bargain in trawlerdom - it's got upper and lower stations, a 4-person dinette, a huge v-berth, a large cockpit, good-sized galley area with a lot of counter space, a stand-up head, camper canvas, and a large flybridge. Combined with flat weather decks, nonskid, toe rails and lifelines, you'd be able to convince yourself that it's a REAL boat! and not one of these Italian-styled airless tubs on which you can't even go forward to handle an anchor! They ain't boats!! I also prefer mine over a tug lookalike, that costs $75-150 grand and has less interior volume or deckspace than I've got. For 2 people, it is comfortable for weeks. Next year, I will trail to Seattle for the Inside Passage, perhaps, or maybe NY State for a canal trip. Sure, it's a shallow-V,lighter displacement boat, but I dont have to cross angry bodies of water to get to the great spots and inshore areas. When it comes to weather: Cruise the best and outrun the rest! I only get 6 mpg (at 65 mph!)with the tow vehicle, but that works pretty good for going to FL for a cruise, for instance. Great Loop? Meetcha in Miami! I would recommend this specific boat to anyone who wants to go cruising in a smaller boat. And that $75 grand that you'll save will buy a lot of gasoline! Phil Little Milwaukee, WI __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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Charles Culotta
Fri, Jan 31, 2003 2:59 AM

I have had the "TT" philosophy since 1977, when I
purchased my Carver 25' Santa Cruz flybridge sedan,
235 hp gas power (1.8 mpg at 20 mph, 2.8 at 7 mph),
one you might want to add to the list.

Phil,
Great post there Cap. No supposition nor conjecture as  Joe Friday would
say ," Just the facts."
Thanks,
CCC

> > I have had the "TT" philosophy since 1977, when I > purchased my Carver 25' Santa Cruz flybridge sedan, > 235 hp gas power (1.8 mpg at 20 mph, 2.8 at 7 mph), > one you might want to add to the list. Phil, Great post there Cap. No supposition nor conjecture as Joe Friday would say ," Just the facts." Thanks, CCC
DS
Dick Schroder
Fri, Jan 31, 2003 3:50 AM

Darn, Ive been enjoying the trip more than the destination. I suppose 'time
available' is the key. Keep boatin' guys.

Dick Schroder
43' Gulfstar trawler
On the Ohio river in Indiana
oilpans@thepoint.net

Some mistakes are to much fun to make only once

Mike,

Excellent reference. Thanks for your labors.

I can go from Milwaukee, my home, to Spanish, ON, in
the center of the North Channel, in 13 hours, about
550 miles, leaving in the morning and be in my first
anchorage well before dark.

Meanwhile, all my friends with big-buck boats the size
of a condo, sit in the marina and lament "Well, I'd
sure like to go to the NC but I haven't got the month
that it would take" plus they don't want to spend the
fuel and take the bad-weather beating that they are
sure to get, a week on the water each way!

Ho, ho, ho, I can't help thinking, as I spend a week
or two in the NC or perhaps in the Keweenau peninsula
in Lake Superior (8 hrs. road time) or our wisconsin
paradise, Door County (5 hrs).

Phil Little
Milwaukee, WI


Darn, Ive been enjoying the trip more than the destination. I suppose 'time available' is the key. Keep boatin' guys. Dick Schroder 43' Gulfstar trawler On the Ohio river in Indiana oilpans@thepoint.net Some mistakes are to much fun to make only once > Mike, > > Excellent reference. Thanks for your labors. > > > I can go from Milwaukee, my home, to Spanish, ON, in > the center of the North Channel, in 13 hours, about > 550 miles, leaving in the morning and be in my first > anchorage well before dark. > > Meanwhile, all my friends with big-buck boats the size > of a condo, sit in the marina and lament "Well, I'd > sure like to go to the NC but I haven't got the month > that it would take" plus they don't want to spend the > fuel and take the bad-weather beating that they are > sure to get, a week on the water each way! > > Ho, ho, ho, I can't help thinking, as I spend a week > or two in the NC or perhaps in the Keweenau peninsula > in Lake Superior (8 hrs. road time) or our wisconsin > paradise, Door County (5 hrs). > > Phil Little > Milwaukee, WI _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawler-world-great-loop