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Replacement Refrig for Norcold

B
Btlifes2short@aol.com
Thu, Sep 9, 2010 1:17 PM

Good Morning Dick & Mary,

Here is some good info that I gathered from another list.  I have kept
this information as I still have an old Norcold on board that still is  working
great but I know one day will need replacing.  This sounds exactly  what
you are looking for,110AC Haier Fridge from Wal Mart? model  #ESRNO46BB

We will be in Fells Point next week, looking forward to our first visit
there!

Todd  & Brenda Lanning
Life's2Short
1985 40' Oceania  Trawler
btlifes2short@aol.com
MTOA #3800
Check out our blog @ http://btlifes2short.blogspot.com
(http://btlifes2short.blogspot.com/)
Currently:  Anchored out in Corsica Creek just off the Chester River, MD

"The foolish person seeks happiness in the  distance; the wise
person experiences it under their keel!"

Messages


1a.  Re: 110AC Haier Fridge from Wal Mart? model #ESRNO46BB
Posted  by:    Date: Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:51 am ((PDT))

E,

I  have been using this fridge now for the better part of two years
and we're  still very pleased with the way it performs.  As you probably
know,
a  replacement in kind from the old Norcold 12VDC/110Vac i had before the
Haier
would have cost over a thousand dollars.

As long as you have a  good inverter and perhaps a backup generator for
trips longer than three  days
the Haier fills the bill.  Obviously you don't want teen agers  constantly
nuking cheese nachos
on the microwave.

On our second last  three day trip with three adults and one teen ager,
we still had all four  greens showing on the volt meter on the third day.
We did have a 1.25 hour  run
at the island to a new location though, which charged the house set a  bit..

With no extra island runs we usually show about 12.4 V as we drop  the
mooring and head home
on the third day.  The inverter is on  constantly during the entire trip.

The info you want is in this posting I  made on Jan 6, 2009.


Notes on new 115VAC  refrigerator installation and power draw  test


Installation:

I've  installed a Haier 4.6 compact 115VAC refrigerator in the Mogambo,
replacing  our very old and noisy Norcold which gave up the ghost on our
last trip.  Guests sleeping in the salon in the future will sleep well, as
this Haier is  almost soundless.  When I turned it on, I thought I had a
problem as I  could not hear it until I put my head right on it!

We will run it through  our 2500 W inverter when out of the slip.  $149. at
Walmart's is a lot  better than well over $1,300 for another Norcold.

The interesting thing  is you can only buy this model: ESRNO46BB (BB is for
black) at Walmart.  It  is not even in the Haier website, as it was made to
Walmart's specifications,  requiring compliance with the energy star
rating, which I felt was  important.

The Haier HNSEO5BB is the same fridge except that it has a  motor to drive
the compressor and is therefore non compliant with energy star  specs.  The
one I bought runs the compressor with solid state circuitry and  Haier
assured me the capability is the same as the HNSEO5BB, only it's  quieter.
What's not to like about that!?

The compressor is  guaranteed for 5 years.

I rigged two teak mounting strips that were left  from the Norcold
installation, with bolts that slip into two holes in the steel  mounting bar under
the fridge's rear end.  These lock the fridge in so it  can't slide out.  I
replaced the front left leveling adjustor (too short)  with a hex head metric
bolt that matched the threads,  I then added some  small "L" shaped pieces
of the foam packing it came with to eliminate any  sideways or vertical
movement in heavy seas.

As I wanted the door to  swing open away from the galley, I changed the
hinges and found that to be an  easy job.

There is approximately 2" of space in the enclosure on both  sides, and on
the top and bottom.  At the rear, opposite the vent to the  outside, there
is a bit over 5" for air circulation.  For good measure I  drilled a bunch of
half inch holes, top and middle, through the bulkhead  separating the
fridge enclosure from the space under the sink.  There were  already three 2"
circular holes high in that bulkhead.  The power cord goes  through the rear
one.

I found some nice thin teak strips at a ship  chandlery to dress up the
front openings around the fridge.

Power draw  test:



At  12 noon today, Jan 6, 2009, I ended the test at  71 hours, three more
than  I would need for my average trip.
The total amp hours used was (-165.9 amp  hrs).  During the test I ran
lights and power tools to at least approximate  usage during an actual trip.  I
did not turn on the microwave, toaster or  coffee maker.

With everything off before I switched back on shore  power, the Link 10
volt display showed: 12.30 / .35 VDC
on the house  set.

The Link time left display showed 122.8 or a tad less than half of  the 255
total.

Average amp hours for the test were 2.3 and 1.1 of that is  the inverter,
so the fridge ran @ 1.2 amp hours
per hour.

Guess  I can throw away the box!

Good Morning Dick & Mary, Here is some good info that I gathered from another list. I have kept this information as I still have an old Norcold on board that still is working great but I know one day will need replacing. This sounds exactly what you are looking for,110AC Haier Fridge from Wal Mart? model #ESRNO46BB We will be in Fells Point next week, looking forward to our first visit there! Todd & Brenda Lanning Life's2Short 1985 40' Oceania Trawler btlifes2short@aol.com MTOA #3800 Check out our blog @ _http://btlifes2short.blogspot.com_ (http://btlifes2short.blogspot.com/) Currently: Anchored out in Corsica Creek just off the Chester River, MD "The foolish person seeks happiness in the distance; the wise person experiences it under their keel!" Messages ________________________________________________________________________ 1a. Re: 110AC Haier Fridge from Wal Mart? model #ESRNO46BB Posted by: Date: Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:51 am ((PDT)) E, I have been using this fridge now for the better part of two years and we're still very pleased with the way it performs. As you probably know, a replacement in kind from the old Norcold 12VDC/110Vac i had before the Haier would have cost over a thousand dollars. As long as you have a good inverter and perhaps a backup generator for trips longer than three days the Haier fills the bill. Obviously you don't want teen agers constantly nuking cheese nachos on the microwave. On our second last three day trip with three adults and one teen ager, we still had all four greens showing on the volt meter on the third day. We did have a 1.25 hour run at the island to a new location though, which charged the house set a bit.. With no extra island runs we usually show about 12.4 V as we drop the mooring and head home on the third day. The inverter is on constantly during the entire trip. The info you want is in this posting I made on Jan 6, 2009. ---------- Notes on new 115VAC refrigerator installation and power draw test _________________________________________________________ Installation: I've installed a Haier 4.6 compact 115VAC refrigerator in the Mogambo, replacing our very old and noisy Norcold which gave up the ghost on our last trip. Guests sleeping in the salon in the future will sleep well, as this Haier is almost soundless. When I turned it on, I thought I had a problem as I could not hear it until I put my head right on it! We will run it through our 2500 W inverter when out of the slip. $149. at Walmart's is a lot better than well over $1,300 for another Norcold. The interesting thing is you can only buy this model: ESRNO46BB (BB is for black) at Walmart. It is not even in the Haier website, as it was made to Walmart's specifications, requiring compliance with the energy star rating, which I felt was important. The Haier HNSEO5BB is the same fridge except that it has a motor to drive the compressor and is therefore non compliant with energy star specs. The one I bought runs the compressor with solid state circuitry and Haier assured me the capability is the same as the HNSEO5BB, only it's quieter. What's not to like about that!? The compressor is guaranteed for 5 years. I rigged two teak mounting strips that were left from the Norcold installation, with bolts that slip into two holes in the steel mounting bar under the fridge's rear end. These lock the fridge in so it can't slide out. I replaced the front left leveling adjustor (too short) with a hex head metric bolt that matched the threads, I then added some small "L" shaped pieces of the foam packing it came with to eliminate any sideways or vertical movement in heavy seas. As I wanted the door to swing open away from the galley, I changed the hinges and found that to be an easy job. There is approximately 2" of space in the enclosure on both sides, and on the top and bottom. At the rear, opposite the vent to the outside, there is a bit over 5" for air circulation. For good measure I drilled a bunch of half inch holes, top and middle, through the bulkhead separating the fridge enclosure from the space under the sink. There were already three 2" circular holes high in that bulkhead. The power cord goes through the rear one. I found some nice thin teak strips at a ship chandlery to dress up the front openings around the fridge. Power draw test: ____________________________________________________________________________ _____ At 12 noon today, Jan 6, 2009, I ended the test at 71 hours, three more than I would need for my average trip. The total amp hours used was (-165.9 amp hrs). During the test I ran lights and power tools to at least approximate usage during an actual trip. I did not turn on the microwave, toaster or coffee maker. With everything off before I switched back on shore power, the Link 10 volt display showed: 12.30 / .35 VDC on the house set. The Link time left display showed 122.8 or a tad less than half of the 255 total. Average amp hours for the test were 2.3 and 1.1 of that is the inverter, so the fridge ran @ 1.2 amp hours per hour. Guess I can throw away the box!