Eric,
Good point, I neglected to complete that thought. The deck and all external
structure have been painted, in the deck areas with awgrip which looks good
to my eye. No wood will be added to exterior surfaces. I agree with you and
worry about deck screw/sealant leakage at that age, Thanks
On the Hard in Mobile
stephen_offutt@sbcglobal.net
------Original Message-----
-From: capteric36@sbcglobal.net [mailto:capteric36@sbcglobal.net]
-Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 2:27 AM
-To: Stephen Offutt
-Subject: Re: T&T: Buying our first trawler-Advice? To the List
-Stephen,
- You mentioned that the teak decks had been
-removed. What is the plan for the decks?
- I it was me I would NOT want wood on the outside
-of my 'new' boat!
- Find out what the plan is, and if possible talk
-the guy out of installing teak.
- Maybe a new fiberglass anti-skid surface?
-Eric Thompson
-S/V Procrastinator
-South San Francisco
-capteric36@sbcglobal.net
------ Original Message -----
-From: "Stephen Offutt" soffutt@sbcglobal.net
-To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
-Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 12:12 AM
-Subject: Re: T&T: Buying our first trawler-Advice?
-To the List
-> To the List,
-> I wrote:
-> >We are buying a trawler for
-part-time-live-aboard. I'm asking for any
-> thoughts/experience on the >following specifics
-of this.
->
-> Thank you all for your thoughts and comments. I
-have consolidated them into
-> a check list and have used it all through the
-'4-5 rounds' of
-> negotiations/counter offers. This has been
-going on for 9 days now and the
-> admiral and I are worn out and were planning to
-move on to St Petersburg
-> tomorrow if this did not finish today. About
-the drawn-out negotiations, my
-> brother - a wunderkind salesman - said "it
-sounds like two people trying to
-> kill a deal".
->
-> By the way, my wrong on the engine. It is a
-PERKINS 200. We had looked
-> at 9 boats from Corpus Christi to Mobile on our
-boat quest thus far. I was
-> getting them confused. We left home just after
-Thanksgiving - with
-> everything packed on top and Dutch the dog in
-back, determined to find the
-> right boat if we had to do the loop by car to do
-it.
->
-> This 1983 36' Lien Hwa (Sea Star model) is being
-refitted from the hull up
-> by the seller, who owns boat yard. Seller
-states, in writing, that the only
-> hurricane damage to this boat was that it
-floated off the blocks and
-> settled, with minor dings and scrapes from
-debris. It has been completely
-> refinished outside. I checked around some and
-the yard seems to have a good
-> name, even back home. I checked on certified
-surveyors, found a couple who
-> have done a lot of survey work with trawlers pre
-and post hurricanes in this
-> area. Both warned about meter checking for
-water damage, oil
-> contamination, etc. (as discussed by List
-members). Previous engine had
-> 1800 hrs and we are told that it sucked up a bag
-while the charter group
-> ignored alarms - engine damaged ergo replaced.
-I dug through some rust on
-> an engine mount, found metal underneath. I can
-see about 40% of the fuel
-> tank tops and they appear dusty, dry and rust
-free. Seller (with his
-> boatyard) will warrant the engine for parts and
-labor for one year (we will
-> be in this part of the ICW for near that). The
-8kw Onan has 1300 hrs. He
-> agreed to refurbish and warrant all boat systems
-for one year (all parts
-> included and labor at his cost with priority
-scheduling for any work) and
-> polish the current fuel and fill tanks (I listen
-to the List). Seller is
-> the original owner and ordered it new for
-charter work. It never did have
-> teak in the saloon or down galley (marine
-wallpaper). These spaces are now
-> cleaned down to the plywood interior bulkheads.
-They look solid with no
-> darkened or weak areas. Teak decking has been
-removed and the entire
-> exterior refinished, including bottom job.
->
-> Today, we reached a final agreement and signed
-off with a deposit on It
-> (She-in-waiting?).
->
-> I will engage - what I think/hope is - a good
-surveyor for survey and sea
-> trials. If anyone can recommend a good surveyor
-in the Mobile-Pensacola
-> area, please do so. We are going to remain here
-through the refit process
-> and I will stay involved daily. I should learn
-a lot about the boat during
-> that period. After 2+ years out of service,
-re-commission is scheduled for
-> 31 January 2007. We will run shake-downs for
-the boat (and us) over the
-> following few months. Further thoughts and
-comments are greatly appreciated
->
-> Wow, it feels great to be this scared! I think
-I hear boater's best day #1
-> coming.
-> On the Hard in Mobile
-> stephen_offutt@sbcglobal.net
-> _______________________________________________
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Eric,
Good point, I neglected to complete that thought. The deck and all external
structure have been painted, in the deck areas with awgrip which looks good
to my eye. No wood will be added to exterior surfaces. I agree with you and
worry about deck screw/sealant leakage at that age, Thanks
On the Hard in Mobile
stephen_offutt@sbcglobal.net
------Original Message-----
-From: capteric36@sbcglobal.net [mailto:capteric36@sbcglobal.net]
-Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 2:27 AM
-To: Stephen Offutt
-Subject: Re: T&T: Buying our first trawler-Advice? To the List
-
-Stephen,
- You mentioned that the teak decks had been
-removed. What is the plan for the decks?
- I it was me I would NOT want wood on the outside
-of my 'new' boat!
- Find out what the plan is, and if possible talk
-the guy out of installing teak.
-
- Maybe a new fiberglass anti-skid surface?
-
-Eric Thompson
-S/V Procrastinator
-South San Francisco
-capteric36@sbcglobal.net
-
------ Original Message -----
-From: "Stephen Offutt" <soffutt@sbcglobal.net>
-To: <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com>
-Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 12:12 AM
-Subject: Re: T&T: Buying our first trawler-Advice?
-To the List
-
-
-> To the List,
-> I wrote:
-> >We are buying a trawler for
-part-time-live-aboard. I'm asking for any
-> thoughts/experience on the >following specifics
-of this.
->
-> Thank you all for your thoughts and comments. I
-have consolidated them into
-> a check list and have used it all through the
-'4-5 rounds' of
-> negotiations/counter offers. This has been
-going on for 9 days now and the
-> admiral and I are worn out and were planning to
-move on to St Petersburg
-> tomorrow if this did not finish today. About
-the drawn-out negotiations, my
-> brother - a wunderkind salesman - said "it
-sounds like two people trying to
-> kill a deal".
->
-> By the way, my wrong on the engine. It is a
-PERKINS 200. We had looked
-> at 9 boats from Corpus Christi to Mobile on our
-boat quest thus far. I was
-> getting them confused. We left home just after
-Thanksgiving - with
-> everything packed on top and Dutch the dog in
-back, determined to find the
-> right boat if we had to do the loop by car to do
-it.
->
-> This 1983 36' Lien Hwa (Sea Star model) is being
-refitted from the hull up
-> by the seller, who owns boat yard. Seller
-states, in writing, that the only
-> hurricane damage to this boat was that it
-floated off the blocks and
-> settled, with minor dings and scrapes from
-debris. It has been completely
-> refinished outside. I checked around some and
-the yard seems to have a good
-> name, even back home. I checked on certified
-surveyors, found a couple who
-> have done a lot of survey work with trawlers pre
-and post hurricanes in this
-> area. Both warned about meter checking for
-water damage, oil
-> contamination, etc. (as discussed by List
-members). Previous engine had
-> 1800 hrs and we are told that it sucked up a bag
-while the charter group
-> ignored alarms - engine damaged ergo replaced.
-I dug through some rust on
-> an engine mount, found metal underneath. I can
-see about 40% of the fuel
-> tank tops and they appear dusty, dry and rust
-free. Seller (with his
-> boatyard) will warrant the engine for parts and
-labor for one year (we will
-> be in this part of the ICW for near that). The
-8kw Onan has 1300 hrs. He
-> agreed to refurbish and warrant all boat systems
-for one year (all parts
-> included and labor at his cost with priority
-scheduling for any work) and
-> polish the current fuel and fill tanks (I listen
-to the List). Seller is
-> the original owner and ordered it new for
-charter work. It never did have
-> teak in the saloon or down galley (marine
-wallpaper). These spaces are now
-> cleaned down to the plywood interior bulkheads.
-They look solid with no
-> darkened or weak areas. Teak decking has been
-removed and the entire
-> exterior refinished, including bottom job.
->
-> Today, we reached a final agreement and signed
-off with a deposit on It
-> (She-in-waiting?).
->
-> I will engage - what I think/hope is - a good
-surveyor for survey and sea
-> trials. If anyone can recommend a good surveyor
-in the Mobile-Pensacola
-> area, please do so. We are going to remain here
-through the refit process
-> and I will stay involved daily. I should learn
-a lot about the boat during
-> that period. After 2+ years out of service,
-re-commission is scheduled for
-> 31 January 2007. We will run shake-downs for
-the boat (and us) over the
-> following few months. Further thoughts and
-comments are greatly appreciated
->
-> Wow, it feels great to be this scared! I think
-I hear boater's best day #1
-> coming.
-> On the Hard in Mobile
-> stephen_offutt@sbcglobal.net
-> _______________________________________________
->
-http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering
->
-> To unsubscribe send email to
->
-trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com
-with the word
-> UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or
-body of the message.
->
-> Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of
-Water World
-> Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.