At 08:40 AM 04/28/2000 -0400, arider wrote:

As far aa I know, we can discharge gray water into the water ways.

We got stopped by the Coasties in NC last summer. When he asked to see my
"locked Y valve" I told him that we have Lectro-Sans onboard. He said OK
but could he see them so the JG trainee would know what they were. After
the inspection was over, the new JG said that I should "throw away" all of
my out of date flares. I looked at him and said "who told you to say that?"
I was going to add "dummy" but Margaret was  within ear shot. I told him in
a emergency those old flares would be used first, if they didn't work I
would use the new ones.  But I've gotten off the track...
The reason for this note is a conversation I had with a Canadian at the
Miami Boat Show.  He a Lock Master for one of the cannals up there.  I
asked about discharge regs in Canada. He said that all waters in Canada
were no discharge and that also includes "gray water" He said all galleys
and showers need to be plumbed to the holding tank...I told him that I
don't think anyone making boat in the US was Plumbing the galley to the
holding tanks. (I also asked him what the Canadian Gov was doing about
"fish poop", his jaw dropped, finnaly he said he hadn't thought about that
before. I told him if they want to do the job right, they need to consider
all the sources of the "broblem".  He gave me his card, I told him I would
see him next year, same time, same place. I would expect an answer at that
time...;)

Can anyone confirm this situation for those of us who hope to someday go to
Canada by boat.

jd
Joe DellaFera / Margaret Murray
36' Prairie  DC "SAMAKI"
Pompano Beach, Fl.

At 10:34 PM 04/30/2000 -0700, "Hal Wyman" hal@halwyman.com wrote:

Arild  replies:
I lived in the Great Lakes until last summer and can  attest to the fact
that  such legislation has indeed been proposed.
"lakes" is a misnomer since most of  them are truly inland seas but being
fresh water  are called lakes.

Most communities surrounding these great lakes use them for drinking water
and thus any pollution poses serious health problems. The Great Lakes basin
is home to 70 million people on both sides of the  border.

The pristine waters in  what are primarily  recreational  areas such as
Georgian Bay, North Channel of  Lake Huron and the inland water canals  are
especially sensitive  to  pollution from  multiple sources including the
grey water from  recreational boats.
The real problem is the phosporus content which encourages  aquatic plant
growth.  This plant growth  alters fish habitat and when it decays
depletes the oxygen content enough  so that  dead zones exist  where no
fish  can live.
In some areas ( especially in waters with negligible current ) plant growth
is so excessive that  boat  movement is impossible due to clogged  water
intakes and fouled propellors.

When  major marinas  are effectively blocked to boat traffic by such  plant
growth the economic impact  is felt by everyone.

Whe massive die-offs occur  the  water quality suffers and  may not even be
suitable for drinking. Existing  water treatment plants cannnot  always
cope with  new types of  contaminants, especially bacterial or chemical.
Now the whole community suffers.

Environmentally yours

Arild

Sounds like balderdash to me.  Out here on the West Coast, the Yankees
continually grouse about Victoria, B.C., which dumps untreated (well, maybe
minimally treated) sewage into the Strait of Juan de Fuca.  Bays like
Prideaux Haven smell like outhouses in the middle of summer.  I've never
heard of any Canadian authorities caring about holding tanks or lack
thereof.

Hal

Joe and all:
It is for this reason (Rhode Island and some other places have also
passed ordinances against
gray water) that I am having the gray water plumbed into a 75-gallon
tank
normally used for additional fresh water on the new boat. Not the
holding tank, though.
I want to be able to control the discharge of both independently. There
is already
tankage for 200 gallons of water, and I felt I didn't need the
additional 75.
Russ

Joe DellaFera wrote:

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