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TWL: 12v & 110v in the same receptacle

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mknott@bcpl.net
Wed, Mar 7, 2001 2:09 PM

===== Original Message From Joe DellaFera samakijoe@mediaone.net =====
At 06:46 PM 03/06/2001 -0700, Norm Clark wrote:

Believe me, this may seem simple to you, but I'm not real handy with

anything

electrical...

In case you guys wanted to continue this thread further... I just had to
change the subject line.

Mel Knott

>===== Original Message From Joe DellaFera <samakijoe@mediaone.net> ===== >At 06:46 PM 03/06/2001 -0700, Norm Clark wrote: >> >>Believe me, this may seem simple to you, but I'm not real handy with anything >>electrical... In case you guys wanted to continue this thread further... I just had to change the subject line. Mel Knott
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scaramouche@tvo.org
Wed, Mar 7, 2001 2:35 PM

In case you guys wanted to continue this thread further... I just
had to
change the subject line.

I would and I have this comment: Never in my wildest dreams would I
have 12 V coming out of a 120 V type receptacle - never!
My boat has numerous cigarette lighter sockets and I find them
extremely flaky - they are simply not made for continuous use. Now
what is a recommended alternative? I looked at "official" 12 V
outlets and plugs in marine/sporting goods stores and find them
sinfully expensive (over $20 each). Perhaps European type plugs with
horizontal or round prongs so it's impossible to force them into 120V
outlets? What do people use and where did you get them?

George of Scaramouche, Lake Ontario, Canada

mknott@bcpl.net writes: >In case you guys wanted to continue this thread further... I just >had to >change the subject line. I would and I have this comment: Never in my wildest dreams would I have 12 V coming out of a 120 V type receptacle - never! My boat has numerous cigarette lighter sockets and I find them extremely flaky - they are simply not made for continuous use. Now what is a recommended alternative? I looked at "official" 12 V outlets and plugs in marine/sporting goods stores and find them sinfully expensive (over $20 each). Perhaps European type plugs with horizontal or round prongs so it's impossible to force them into 120V outlets? What do people use and where did you get them? George of Scaramouche, Lake Ontario, Canada
F
fburrows@mail.com
Wed, Mar 7, 2001 2:59 PM

George:

Marinco makes a higher quality plug and receptacle that lock in place and
are far superior to the normal cigarette lighter ones. They have built in
fuses and also accept the original style but just don't lock with anything
other than the Marinco mate.

I have known people that used different European plugs and receptacle but
there is no standard. It would be something you created for your boat. A
disadvantage of the European plugs is that you would have to make up an
adapter incase a friend shows up with a cell phone and you will also have
the same problem if you want to use something from the boat in your car.

The Marinco solution is more expensive but everything plugs into everything
else without any problems and the locking feature overcomes the biggest
problem with the cigarette lighter plugs.

Frank Burrows  fburrows@compuserve.com      1979 43' Viking MY  Piney
Narrows Chesapeake Bay

My boat has numerous cigarette lighter sockets and I find them
extremely flaky - they are simply not made for continuous use. Now
what is a recommended alternative? I looked at "official" 12 V
outlets and plugs in marine/sporting goods stores and find them
sinfully expensive (over $20 each). Perhaps European type plugs with
horizontal or round prongs so it's impossible to force them into 120V
outlets? What do people use and where did you get them?

George of Scaramouche, Lake Ontario, Canada

George: Marinco makes a higher quality plug and receptacle that lock in place and are far superior to the normal cigarette lighter ones. They have built in fuses and also accept the original style but just don't lock with anything other than the Marinco mate. I have known people that used different European plugs and receptacle but there is no standard. It would be something you created for your boat. A disadvantage of the European plugs is that you would have to make up an adapter incase a friend shows up with a cell phone and you will also have the same problem if you want to use something from the boat in your car. The Marinco solution is more expensive but everything plugs into everything else without any problems and the locking feature overcomes the biggest problem with the cigarette lighter plugs. Frank Burrows fburrows@compuserve.com 1979 43' Viking MY Piney Narrows Chesapeake Bay >My boat has numerous cigarette lighter sockets and I find them >extremely flaky - they are simply not made for continuous use. Now >what is a recommended alternative? I looked at "official" 12 V >outlets and plugs in marine/sporting goods stores and find them >sinfully expensive (over $20 each). Perhaps European type plugs with >horizontal or round prongs so it's impossible to force them into 120V >outlets? What do people use and where did you get them? > >George of Scaramouche, Lake Ontario, Canada
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pjr@netsense.net
Wed, Mar 7, 2001 6:30 PM

The way I see it, you've just got to have a sense of humor when you buy a
Taiwan boat.  My Morgan OI/51 had dual voltage lights and I loved them.  My
Marine Trader 44 has 12 volt receptacles next to the 110 units.  My solution
was to label them.  As for IEEE standards, I'm a fan, but not every country
in the world requires "paint to be edible" so I tend to try and adapt to
other cultures and suppliers.

                                         Regards...

Phil Rosch
M/V "Curmudgeon" MT-44TC
Current moored in Wickford, RI

I would and I have this comment: Never in my wildest dreams would I
have 12 V coming out of a 120 V type receptacle - never!

The way I see it, you've just got to have a sense of humor when you buy a Taiwan boat. My Morgan OI/51 had dual voltage lights and I loved them. My Marine Trader 44 has 12 volt receptacles next to the 110 units. My solution was to label them. As for IEEE standards, I'm a fan, but not every country in the world requires "paint to be edible" so I tend to try and adapt to other cultures and suppliers. Regards... Phil Rosch M/V "Curmudgeon" MT-44TC Current moored in Wickford, RI I would and I have this comment: Never in my wildest dreams would I have 12 V coming out of a 120 V type receptacle - never!