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I have explored the Customizer mainly to build demos of libraries. And it
does a good job but may be improved. I agree that there is a waste of space
in the customizer window. Any more compact design is welcome. The order of
the parameter is not reasonable: instead of alphabetical it should be the
order of appearance in the program file. The description of a parameter
should be the default: only when it is not available the parameter
identifier would be used. Usually the identifier is not as descriptive and
requires a lot of space. The "Show details" option should be changed
accordingly.
The best window arrangement I found for demos is to overlap the customizer,
editor and console windows:
http://forum.openscad.org/file/n18753/SweepDemo1.png
This is the image of a demo of my fork of sweep.scad
https://github.com/RonaldoCMP/list-comprehension-demos with this window
arrangement.
I observed an issue when editing fields like the ref_end parameter in the
image, a vector. If you click any of the vector fields to edit it, just
after a character is inserted or deleted, a new preview is done and the
cursor miraculously move to the beginning of the first field. That is
annoying and seems to be a bug. It would be better to require an ENTER to
end the editing mode and produce a preview.
I have explored the customizer only in a Windows 7 environment.
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In editing a field of a vector, the two arrow icons are useless. When in a
field, the up and down keyboard keys are better options for that. Page up
and down allowing greater jumps (hundreds), left and right for middle jumps
(tenths).
Comparing Thingiverse thing Sheriffs Badge
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:415487 in Thingiverse Customizer (TVC)
v's OpenSCAD Customizer (OSC).
[OpenSCAD version 2016.10.05 (git 4b59170) ]
I'm not sure to what degree they are meant to be compatible so I noted
anything I found below.
a. TVC Underscores in Variable_name are changed to spaces, looks nicer.
http://forum.openscad.org/file/n18761/Customizer_feedback_layout_TVC_A.jpg
a2. The side by side layout allows creative use of name/description, as
above or this use
http://forum.openscad.org/file/n18761/Customizer_feedback_layout_TVC.jpg
v's
http://forum.openscad.org/file/n18761/Customizer_feedback_layout_OSC.jpg
b. TVC Order of tabs is order in code, allows logical layout.
c. Order of variables in tab is the same, alphabetical. Note I had to name
variables starting with numbers to order them. I think it should be the same
order as code, and suggest Thingiverse change that way.
d. <oops>
e. TVC stops processing variables at the first non assignment operation, see
'module dummy()' in above Thing, OSC is getting a range of working variables
in the tabs which should not be there, also getting variables from module
parameters. Can't tell where it got 'pi' from - correction - it got it and
other variables from the include <write.scad> ...
(had to stop comparison, TVC is stuffed ATM)
Separate issues:
There is conflict with the scroll wheel between scrolling the customizer
pane, and changing slider values (and up/down, drop-down controls). If when
scrolling the pane, the mouse happens to rest over a slider the scroll wheel
then changes the slider instead of scrolling more. Not sure of best approach
to this, as scrolling the controls could be useful, but when testing I had
many unintentional changes to control values until I worked out what was
going on.
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Von: MichaelAtOz oz.at.michael@gmail.com
I'm not sure to what degree they are meant to be
compatible so I noted anything I found below.
Thanks for having a look at that. We did not really
declare an official compatibility list, but the basic
idea is to follow the syntax and behavior as close
as possible and reasonable.
For the GUI part things are a bit more relaxed as
we have different options and at least can try to
make it easier for the user.
a. TVC Underscores in Variable_name are changed
to spaces, looks nicer.
Good point. If we go for "hide variable name if
description is there" it might not be too important,
but I guess there's quite a number of model that
don't have a description.
a2. The side by side layout allows creative use
of name/description, as above or this use
I think we have to accept those kind of glitches,
maybe filtering descriptions that look strange by
some rule.
Trying to exactly follow the display is a lost
cause in my opinion.
b. TVC Order of tabs is order in code, allows
logical layout.
Yeah, I guess code order gets most votes by far,
so we probably want that or have a toggle for
both code and alphabetical order.
d. <oops>
???
Missing screenshot maybe?
e. TVC stops processing variables at the first
non assignment operation
Oh, hmm, we certainly should find a fix for that.
Maybe we want to even move that to the list of
things to fix before merging to the main dev
branch.
ciao,
Torsten.
tp3 wrote
d.
???
Missing screenshot maybe?
No. <oops>, d. was not an issue after all. It was [Global], until I checked
with TVC I felt it should list the globals above tabs showing all the time.
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Was there any resolution to getting decimal places in a customizer variable?
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On Nov 10, 2016, at 18:09, MichaelAtOz oz.at.michael@gmail.com wrote:
Was there any resolution to getting decimal places in a customizer variable?
Added to https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/1781
If any of the listed items are significantly more critical than others, feel free to create a new issue so we can prioritize it differently.
-Marius
Is there a Windows exe with the latest (post 2016.10.05) customizer changes?
I don't want to comment on what may be fixed already...
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<Thinking Cap>:
Find a way to integrate assert() with customizer GUI.
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On Nov 11, 2016, at 00:15, MichaelAtOz oz.at.michael@gmail.com wrote:
Is there a Windows exe with the latest (post 2016.10.05) customizer changes?
I don't want to comment on what may be fixed already…
Not yet, but it will be on the way as soon as we get a chance to manually kick off a Windows build..
-Marius