Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent TSIP
message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam about
the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was fighting the
implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to my own
solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C code into.
One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically using
the UNO made the project more difficult.
Russ
K0WFS
What was the problem you found. Other then a "new to you" platform? I'm
trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB. Even if
you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card for
logging they just plug in, no solder required.
Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto a
small uP based device. It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez russ.ramirez@gmail.comwrote:
Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent TSIP
message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam about
the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was fighting the
implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to my own
solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C code into.
One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically using
the UNO made the project more difficult.
Russ
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On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Chris Albertson <albertson.chris@gmail.com
wrote:
What was the problem you found. Other then a "new to you" platform? I'm
trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB. Even if
you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card for
logging they just plug in, no solder required.
Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto a
small uP based device. It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez <russ.ramirez@gmail.com
wrote:
Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent TSIP
message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam about
the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was fighting the
implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to my
own
solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C code
into.
One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically using
the UNO made the project more difficult.
Russ
K0WFS
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On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Chris Albertson <albertson.chris@gmail.com
wrote:
What was the problem you found. Other then a "new to you" platform?
I'm trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB.
Even if you want to do something like add a graphical display or and
SD card for logging they just plug in, no solder required.
Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto
a small uP based device. It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez <russ.ramirez@gmail.com
wrote:
Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent
TSIP message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement
Adam about the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I
was fighting the implementation of the controller card and that I
should cut-over to my
own
solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C
code
into.
One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically
using the UNO made the project more difficult.
Russ
K0WFS
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Yes, but not for technical reasons. I'm opting to build my own for the $15
in parts. Not quite free, but at the same time this isn't new to me and it
won't take long and I'll probably learn a little.
-Bob
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Eric Garner garnere@gmail.com wrote:
Is anyone else having difficulty submitting a request for an order form?
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Chris Albertson <
albertson.chris@gmail.com
wrote:
What was the problem you found. Other then a "new to you" platform? I'm
trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB. Even
if
you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card for
logging they just plug in, no solder required.
Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto a
small uP based device. It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez <russ.ramirez@gmail.com
wrote:
Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent TSIP
message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam
about
the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was fighting
the
implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to my
own
solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C code
into.
One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically
using
the UNO made the project more difficult.
Russ
K0WFS
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Me, too.
Jimt
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Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 1:22 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
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On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Chris Albertson <
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wrote:
What was the problem you found. Other then a "new to you" platform?
I'm trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB.
Even if you want to do something like add a graphical display or and
SD card for logging they just plug in, no solder required.
Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto
a small uP based device. It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez <russ.ramirez@gmail.com
wrote:
Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent
TSIP message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement
Adam about the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I
was fighting the implementation of the controller card and that I
should cut-over to my
own
solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C
code
into.
One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically
using the UNO made the project more difficult.
Russ
K0WFS
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Hi Chris,
I've posted this before, but it's worth saying again. I use the PocketPC version of Lady Heather on an IPAQ. These are available for next to nothing on Ebay and can run in a dock on the bench or you can gut it and embed it in a cased Thunderbolt. worn out batteries are not an issue as we have constant power available. They just need 5V. One with an SD card slot is good so you don't have to re-load the code from a PC if the power does go out.
Robert G8RPI.
From: Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:36
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
What was the problem you found. Other then a "new to you" platform? I'm
trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB. Even if
you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card for
logging they just plug in, no solder required.
Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto a
small uP based device. It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez russ.ramirez@gmail.comwrote:
Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent TSIP
message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam about
the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was fighting the
implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to my own
solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C code into.
One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically using
the UNO made the project more difficult.
Russ
K0WFS
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Sorry to reply to my own post.
I was wrong on the name of the PocketPC software. It's called Thunderhead see http://fuzzythinking.com/projects/thunderhead/
Robert G8RPI.
From: Robert Atkinson robert8rpi@yahoo.co.uk
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Thursday, 15 August 2013, 21:17
Subject: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC
Hi Chris,
I've posted this before, but it's worth saying again. I use the PocketPC version of Lady Heather on an IPAQ. These are available for next to nothing on Ebay and can run in a dock on the bench or you can gut it and embed it in a cased Thunderbolt. worn out batteries are not an issue as we have constant power available. They just need 5V. One with an SD card slot is good so you don't have to re-load the code from a PC if the power does go out.
Robert G8RPI.
From: Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:36
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
What was the problem you found. Other then a "new to you" platform? I'm
trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB. Even if
you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card for
logging they just plug in, no solder required.
Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto a
small uP based device. It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez russ.ramirez@gmail.comwrote:
Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent TSIP
message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam about
the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was fighting the
implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to my own
solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C code into.
One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically using
the UNO made the project more difficult.
Russ
K0WFS
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What OS runs on the IPAQ?
Did you have to re-build LH from source?
Edit: OK now I see you are running some other software called
"thunderhead". Same questions apply
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Robert Atkinson robert8rpi@yahoo.co.ukwrote:
Hi Chris,
I've posted this before, but it's worth saying again. I use the PocketPC
version of Lady Heather on an IPAQ. These are available for next to nothing
on Ebay and can run in a dock on the bench or you can gut it and embed it
in a cased Thunderbolt. worn out batteries are not an issue as we have
constant power available. They just need 5V. One with an SD card slot is
good so you don't have to re-load the code from a PC if the power does go
out.
Robert G8RPI.
From: Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
time-nuts@febo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:36
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
What was the problem you found. Other then a "new to you" platform? I'm
trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB. Even if
you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card for
logging they just plug in, no solder required.
Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto a
small uP based device. It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez <russ.ramirez@gmail.com
wrote:
Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent TSIP
message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam about
the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was fighting the
implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to my
own
solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C code
into.
One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically using
the UNO made the project more difficult.
Russ
K0WFS
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Hi
There are two products called IPAQ. One was a desktop computer, the other was a PDA. The desktop will run anything, the PDA can handle some of the BSD's and Linux's. Both need to be configured / compiled to match the device.
Bob
On Aug 16, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com wrote:
What OS runs on the IPAQ?
Did you have to re-build LH from source?
Edit: OK now I see you are running some other software called
"thunderhead". Same questions apply
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Robert Atkinson robert8rpi@yahoo.co.ukwrote:
Hi Chris,
I've posted this before, but it's worth saying again. I use the PocketPC
version of Lady Heather on an IPAQ. These are available for next to nothing
on Ebay and can run in a dock on the bench or you can gut it and embed it
in a cased Thunderbolt. worn out batteries are not an issue as we have
constant power available. They just need 5V. One with an SD card slot is
good so you don't have to re-load the code from a PC if the power does go
out.
Robert G8RPI.
From: Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
time-nuts@febo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:36
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
What was the problem you found. Other then a "new to you" platform? I'm
trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB. Even if
you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card for
logging they just plug in, no solder required.
Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto a
small uP based device. It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez <russ.ramirez@gmail.com
wrote:
Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent TSIP
message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam about
the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was fighting the
implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to my
own
solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C code
into.
One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically using
the UNO made the project more difficult.
Russ
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Hi,
This is not my software. See http://fuzzythinking.com/projects/thunderhead/
I just used the complied file, but the source code is there of you want
to change it. The iPAQ I built in was an H2200 series running PocketPC
2002. I've also ran it on a H3900 series (H3950) running PocketPC 2003. I used an SD card to store the exe file. A quick check on ebay shows
2200 iPAQs on buy it now for $25.
Robert G8RPI.
From: Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com
To: Robert Atkinson robert8rpi@yahoo.co.uk; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013, 19:44
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC
What OS runs on the IPAQ?
Did you have to re-build LH from source?
Edit: OK now I see you are running some other software called "thunderhead". Same questions apply
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Robert Atkinson robert8rpi@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hi Chris,
I've posted this before, but it's worth saying again. I use the PocketPC version of Lady Heather on an IPAQ. These are available for next to nothing on Ebay and can run in a dock on the bench or you can gut it and embed it in a cased Thunderbolt. worn out batteries are not an issue as we have constant power available. They just need 5V. One with an SD card slot is good so you don't have to re-load the code from a PC if the power does go out.
Robert G8RPI.
From: Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:36
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
What was the problem you found. Other then a "new to you" platform? I'm
trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB. Even if
you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card for
logging they just plug in, no solder required.
Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto a
small uP based device. It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez russ.ramirez@gmail.comwrote:
Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent TSIP
message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam about
the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was fighting the
implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to my own
solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C code into.
One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically using
the UNO made the project more difficult.
Russ
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Yes, that was my question, Which did you use, were you able to build LH or
Thunderhead for run on the PDA? If so which OS?
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Bob Camp lists@rtty.us wrote:
Hi
There are two products called IPAQ. One was a desktop computer, the other
was a PDA. The desktop will run anything, the PDA can handle some of the
BSD's and Linux's. Both need to be configured / compiled to match the
device.
Bob
On Aug 16, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com
wrote:
What OS runs on the IPAQ?
Did you have to re-build LH from source?
Edit: OK now I see you are running some other software called
"thunderhead". Same questions apply
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Robert Atkinson <robert8rpi@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:
Hi Chris,
I've posted this before, but it's worth saying again. I use the PocketPC
version of Lady Heather on an IPAQ. These are available for next to
nothing
on Ebay and can run in a dock on the bench or you can gut it and embed
it
in a cased Thunderbolt. worn out batteries are not an issue as we have
constant power available. They just need 5V. One with an SD card slot is
good so you don't have to re-load the code from a PC if the power does
go
out.
Robert G8RPI.
From: Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
time-nuts@febo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:36
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
What was the problem you found. Other then a "new to you" platform?
I'm
trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB. Even
if
you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card for
logging they just plug in, no solder required.
Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto a
small uP based device. It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez <russ.ramirez@gmail.com
wrote:
Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent TSIP
message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam
about
the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was fighting
the
implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to my
own
solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C code
into.
One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically
using
the UNO made the project more difficult.
Russ
K0WFS
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I do have a desktop IPAQ. It runs Windows Embedded on ARM (at least, this one does)
Didfier
Bob Camp lists@rtty.us wrote:
Hi
There are two products called IPAQ. One was a desktop computer, the
other was a PDA. The desktop will run anything, the PDA can handle some
of the BSD's and Linux's. Both need to be configured / compiled to
match the device.
Bob
On Aug 16, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Chris Albertson
albertson.chris@gmail.com wrote:
What OS runs on the IPAQ?
Did you have to re-build LH from source?
Edit: OK now I see you are running some other software called
"thunderhead". Same questions apply
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Robert Atkinson
robert8rpi@yahoo.co.ukwrote:
Hi Chris,
I've posted this before, but it's worth saying again. I use the
PocketPC
version of Lady Heather on an IPAQ. These are available for next to
nothing
on Ebay and can run in a dock on the bench or you can gut it and
embed it
in a cased Thunderbolt. worn out batteries are not an issue as we
have
constant power available. They just need 5V. One with an SD card
slot is
good so you don't have to re-load the code from a PC if the power
does go
out.
Robert G8RPI.
From: Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
time-nuts@febo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:36
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
What was the problem you found. Other then a "new to you" platform?
I'm
trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB.
Even if
you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card
for
logging they just plug in, no solder required.
Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be
modified.
One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions
onto a
small uP based device. It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez
wrote:
Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent
TSIP
message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam
about
the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was
fighting the
implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to
my
own
solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C
code
into.
One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically
using
the UNO made the project more difficult.
Russ
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Does the iPAQ have a serial port? I have a Dell PDA that runs Pocket PC2003 with WiFi and Bluetooth but no serial port.
Didier
Robert Atkinson robert8rpi@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hi,
This is not my software. See
http://fuzzythinking.com/projects/thunderhead/
I just used the complied file, but the source code is there of you want
to change it. The iPAQ I built in was an H2200 series running PocketPC
2002. I've also ran it on a H3900 series (H3950) running PocketPC 2003.
I used an SD card to store the exe file. A quick check on ebay shows
2200 iPAQs on buy it now for $25.
Robert G8RPI.
From: Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com
To: Robert Atkinson robert8rpi@yahoo.co.uk; Discussion of precise
time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013, 19:44
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC
What OS runs on the IPAQ?
Did you have to re-build LH from source?
Edit: OK now I see you are running some other software called
"thunderhead". Same questions apply
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Robert Atkinson
robert8rpi@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hi Chris,
I've posted this before, but it's worth saying again. I use the
PocketPC version of Lady Heather on an IPAQ. These are available for
next to nothing on Ebay and can run in a dock on the bench or you can
gut it and embed it in a cased Thunderbolt. worn out batteries are not
an issue as we have constant power available. They just need 5V. One
with an SD card slot is good so you don't have to re-load the code from
a PC if the power does go out.
Robert G8RPI.
From: Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:36
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
What was the problem you found. Other then a "new to you" platform?
I'm
trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB.
Even if
you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card
for
logging they just plug in, no solder required.
Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto
a
small uP based device. It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez
russ.ramirez@gmail.comwrote:
Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent
TSIP
message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam
about
the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was
fighting the
implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to
my own
solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C
code into.
One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically
using
the UNO made the project more difficult.
Russ
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Where is the software download for the PocketPC version of Lady Heather?
Tia
Jerry
K1JOS
-----Original Message-----
From: Didier [mailto:shalimr9@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 23:30
To: Robert Atkinson; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC
Does the iPAQ have a serial port? I have a Dell PDA that runs Pocket PC2003 with WiFi and Bluetooth but no serial port.
Didier
Robert Atkinson robert8rpi@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hi,
This is not my software. See
http://fuzzythinking.com/projects/thunderhead/
I just used the complied file, but the source code is there of you want
to change it. The iPAQ I built in was an H2200 series running PocketPC
2002. I've also ran it on a H3900 series (H3950) running PocketPC 2003.
I used an SD card to store the exe file. A quick check on ebay shows
2200 iPAQs on buy it now for $25.
Robert G8RPI.
From: Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com
To: Robert Atkinson robert8rpi@yahoo.co.uk; Discussion of precise
time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013, 19:44
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC
What OS runs on the IPAQ?
Did you have to re-build LH from source?
Edit: OK now I see you are running some other software called
"thunderhead". Same questions apply
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Robert Atkinson
robert8rpi@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hi Chris,
I've posted this before, but it's worth saying again. I use the
PocketPC version of Lady Heather on an IPAQ. These are available for
next to nothing on Ebay and can run in a dock on the bench or you can
gut it and embed it in a cased Thunderbolt. worn out batteries are not
an issue as we have constant power available. They just need 5V. One
with an SD card slot is good so you don't have to re-load the code from
a PC if the power does go out.
Robert G8RPI.
From: Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:36
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
What was the problem you found. Other then a "new to you" platform?
I'm
trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB.
Even if
you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card
for
logging they just plug in, no solder required.
Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto
a
small uP based device. It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez
russ.ramirez@gmail.comwrote:
Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent
TSIP
message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam
about
the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was
fighting the
implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to
my own
solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C
code into.
One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically
using
the UNO made the project more difficult.
Russ
K0WFS
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On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Jerry jsternmd@att.net wrote:
Where is the software download for the PocketPC version of Lady Heather?
I think you'd be starting with the source code and building for the
specific platform.
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Go up about 7 or 8 messages.
It is not a version of Lady Heather for the PocketPC, it is a monitor
software for the Thunderbolt that runs on certain PocketPC (those like the
iPaq that have a hardweare serial port). It is very far from the extended
functionality of Lady Heather, but useful as a health indicator.
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Jerry jsternmd@att.net wrote:
Where is the software download for the PocketPC version of Lady Heather?
Tia
Jerry
K1JOS
-----Original Message-----
From: Didier [mailto:shalimr9@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 23:30
To: Robert Atkinson; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC
Does the iPAQ have a serial port? I have a Dell PDA that runs Pocket
PC2003 with WiFi and Bluetooth but no serial port.
Didier
Robert Atkinson robert8rpi@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hi,
This is not my software. See
http://fuzzythinking.com/projects/thunderhead/
I just used the complied file, but the source code is there of you want
to change it. The iPAQ I built in was an H2200 series running PocketPC
2002. I've also ran it on a H3900 series (H3950) running PocketPC 2003.
I used an SD card to store the exe file. A quick check on ebay shows
2200 iPAQs on buy it now for $25.
Robert G8RPI.
From: Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com
To: Robert Atkinson robert8rpi@yahoo.co.uk; Discussion of precise
time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013, 19:44
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC
What OS runs on the IPAQ?
Did you have to re-build LH from source?
Edit: OK now I see you are running some other software called
"thunderhead". Same questions apply
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Robert Atkinson
robert8rpi@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hi Chris,
I've posted this before, but it's worth saying again. I use the
PocketPC version of Lady Heather on an IPAQ. These are available for
next to nothing on Ebay and can run in a dock on the bench or you can
gut it and embed it in a cased Thunderbolt. worn out batteries are not
an issue as we have constant power available. They just need 5V. One
with an SD card slot is good so you don't have to re-load the code from
a PC if the power does go out.
Robert G8RPI.
From: Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:36
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
What was the problem you found. Other then a "new to you" platform?
I'm
trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB.
Even if
you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card
for
logging they just plug in, no solder required.
Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto
a
small uP based device. It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez
russ.ramirez@gmail.comwrote:
Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent
TSIP
message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam
about
the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was
fighting the
implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to
my own
solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C
code into.
One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically
using
the UNO made the project more difficult.
Russ
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On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Didier Juges shalimr9@gmail.com wrote:
Go up about 7 or 8 messages.
It is not a version of Lady Heather for the PocketPC, it is a monitor
software for the Thunderbolt that runs on certain PocketPC (those like the
iPaq that have a hardweare serial port). It is very far from the extended
functionality of Lady Heather, but useful as a health indicator.
Got a link to the source, it could serve as a start
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Would be nice if someone did a Linux port of LH that could run on a
Raspberry Pi or something, then you could embed it into your T-Bolt
installation. Plug in a HDMI monitor if you want to look at it all the
time, or come in remotely via Ethernet.
eric
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Chris Albertson
albertson.chris@gmail.comwrote:
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Didier Juges shalimr9@gmail.com wrote:
Go up about 7 or 8 messages.
It is not a version of Lady Heather for the PocketPC, it is a monitor
software for the Thunderbolt that runs on certain PocketPC (those like
the
iPaq that have a hardweare serial port). It is very far from the extended
functionality of Lady Heather, but useful as a health indicator.
Got a link to the source, it could serve as a start
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LH installs and runs fine under WINE.
WINE can map a real serial port or a USB serial converter
to COMx.
On 08/18/2013 10:11 PM, Eric Williams wrote:
Would be nice if someone did a Linux port of LH that could run on a
Raspberry Pi or something, then you could embed it into your T-Bolt
installation. Plug in a HDMI monitor if you want to look at it all the
time, or come in remotely via Ethernet.
eric
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Chris Albertson
albertson.chris@gmail.comwrote:
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Didier Juges shalimr9@gmail.com wrote:
Go up about 7 or 8 messages.
It is not a version of Lady Heather for the PocketPC, it is a monitor
software for the Thunderbolt that runs on certain PocketPC (those like
the
iPaq that have a hardweare serial port). It is very far from the extended
functionality of Lady Heather, but useful as a health indicator.
Got a link to the source, it could serve as a start
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On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Eric Williams wd6cmu@gmail.com wrote:
Would be nice if someone did a Linux port of LH that could run on a
Raspberry Pi or something, then you could embed it into your T-Bolt
installation. Plug in a HDMI monitor if you want to look at it all the
time, or come in remotely via Ethernet.
No, the display capability needs to be removed from the the software. A
ported LH would just put the data someplace. A second program could create
plots and it could run on a different computer. Getting rid of the
display would make the porting go faster and no tie you to some specific
platform.
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I can imagine creating a screen image as a jpeg and making it available via the web server.
I have done that before for something else (a headless device.)
Didier KO4BB
Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Eric Williams wd6cmu@gmail.com
wrote:
Would be nice if someone did a Linux port of LH that could run on a
Raspberry Pi or something, then you could embed it into your T-Bolt
installation. Plug in a HDMI monitor if you want to look at it all
the
time, or come in remotely via Ethernet.
No, the display capability needs to be removed from the the software.
A
ported LH would just put the data someplace. A second program could
create
plots and it could run on a different computer. Getting rid of the
display would make the porting go faster and no tie you to some
specific
platform.
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Sent from my Motorola Droid Razr 4G LTE wireless tracker while I do other things.
Sending GIF images is not a good idea for several reasons
- If the display updates once per second, you'd need to send an entire GIF
image every second, - What if the user has a very small screen, like a cell phone, or he has a
large screen? The GIF will either be the wrong size or you need a way to
tell the server what size image to make - How to zoom and change the image scale? Again all the heavy lifting
must be dome on the server side
THis is backwards. I'd like the monitor to run on very LOW-END hardware,
like a PIC, AVR chip or whatever and hopefully without even the need to
boot an OS.
One way to move data from a monior to a display is SNMP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Network_Management_Protocol
This can be implemented with a very light weight process and not very much
data moves over the network. Also display programs that run on the
desktop computer already exist. It is easy to query and plot SNMP data.
So makethe Thunderbolt look like an SNMP device.
SNMP implements commends that i effect say "get me the temperature data for
the last N hours." or "set this parameter to this value". It is exactly
what is needed and we don't need to write the client side software. Unless
you'd want a custom display.
I think the monitor should be able to run on atiny uP, something that cost
$20 or so and use very little power, under 1W.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:30 AM, Didier Juges shalimr9@gmail.com wrote:
I can imagine creating a screen image as a jpeg and making it available
via the web server.
I have done that before for something else (a headless device.)
Didier KO4BB
Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Eric Williams wd6cmu@gmail.com
wrote:
Would be nice if someone did a Linux port of LH that could run on a
Raspberry Pi or something, then you could embed it into your T-Bolt
installation. Plug in a HDMI monitor if you want to look at it all
the
time, or come in remotely via Ethernet.
No, the display capability needs to be removed from the the software.
A
ported LH would just put the data someplace. A second program could
create
plots and it could run on a different computer. Getting rid of the
display would make the porting go faster and no tie you to some
specific
platform.
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Sorry for confusion caused by my using the L H words :-) it's called Thunderhead and is a lot cheaper than some solutions if you just want a desktop monitor or can hack an iPaq handheld into your Thunderbolt's case.
Details including complied EXE for PocketPC and source code is herehttp://fuzzythinking.com/projects/thunderhead/
Robert G8RPI.
From: Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013, 5:00
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Didier Juges shalimr9@gmail.com wrote:
Go up about 7 or 8 messages.
It is not a version of Lady Heather for the PocketPC, it is a monitor
software for the Thunderbolt that runs on certain PocketPC (those like the
iPaq that have a hardweare serial port). It is very far from the extended
functionality of Lady Heather, but useful as a health indicator.
Got a link to the source, it could serve as a start
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I have been looking at SNMP intensively for the last 2 weeks. I came to
appreciate the warning I saw on one of the first documents I read about it:
the protocol is simple although the implementation is not :) While I am
sure you can run a useful subset of SNMP on a small machine, there are much
simpler protocols to use for something like that. I like the web browser
client with javascript and Ajax if you need it because every device
nowadays can run it, and every device is powerful enough to do a decent job
with it.
Now, if you feel that you absolutely need to monitor your Thunderbolt with
your cell phone, I suggest you get a life :)
My suggestion was mainly based on using a laptop or other "computer", just
like LadyHeather does not.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Chris Albertson <albertson.chris@gmail.com
wrote:
Sending GIF images is not a good idea for several reasons
- If the display updates once per second, you'd need to send an entire GIF
image every second, - What if the user has a very small screen, like a cell phone, or he has a
large screen? The GIF will either be the wrong size or you need a way to
tell the server what size image to make - How to zoom and change the image scale? Again all the heavy lifting
must be dome on the server side
THis is backwards. I'd like the monitor to run on very LOW-END hardware,
like a PIC, AVR chip or whatever and hopefully without even the need to
boot an OS.
One way to move data from a monior to a display is SNMP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Network_Management_Protocol
This can be implemented with a very light weight process and not very much
data moves over the network. Also display programs that run on the
desktop computer already exist. It is easy to query and plot SNMP data.
So makethe Thunderbolt look like an SNMP device.
SNMP implements commends that i effect say "get me the temperature data for
the last N hours." or "set this parameter to this value". It is exactly
what is needed and we don't need to write the client side software. Unless
you'd want a custom display.
I think the monitor should be able to run on atiny uP, something that cost
$20 or so and use very little power, under 1W.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:30 AM, Didier Juges shalimr9@gmail.com wrote:
I can imagine creating a screen image as a jpeg and making it available
via the web server.
I have done that before for something else (a headless device.)
Didier KO4BB
Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Eric Williams wd6cmu@gmail.com
wrote:
Would be nice if someone did a Linux port of LH that could run on a
Raspberry Pi or something, then you could embed it into your T-Bolt
installation. Plug in a HDMI monitor if you want to look at it all
the
time, or come in remotely via Ethernet.
No, the display capability needs to be removed from the the software.
A
ported LH would just put the data someplace. A second program could
create
plots and it could run on a different computer. Getting rid of the
display would make the porting go faster and no tie you to some
specific
platform.
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You might say that if you need to monitor the performance of the
Thunderbolt at all, maybe "get a life". The little boxes work just as
well when you are not looking. But assuming we all are anti-social geeks
who like to look at ADEV plots and the like and worry if our equipment is
to close to a HVAC duct then if you are building software to make those
plots for us geeks, make sure it displays the plot on the device such geeks
are likely to have, that would be a web browser running on a Smart Phone
iPad or notebook.
Cell phones and tablets are how most people today access the internet.
(yes we've crossed over if you cost unit sales.) If you build a web server
today that can't serve those devices you loose most of the potential
customers. It is not hard to do. The simplest thing is just use plain old
HTML and let the device format the page how it likes. Next simplest is to
look at the device and build the page accordingly but that precludes simple
static html pages.
SNMP or what ever, just so long as no one sends GIF images one per second.
You should send DATA that is rendered on the display device.
Yes, SNMP is complex to implement, but no one needs to do that, just use an
existing implementation net-snmp http://net-snmp.sourceforge.net It's
free. Kind of the same with seb servers, no one would implement one
themselves, Apache is free.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Didier Juges shalimr9@gmail.com wrote:
I have been looking at SNMP intensively for the last 2 weeks. I came to
appreciate the warning I saw on one of the first documents I read about it:
the protocol is simple although the implementation is not :) While I am
sure you can run a useful subset of SNMP on a small machine, there are much
simpler protocols to use for something like that. I like the web browser
client with javascript and Ajax if you need it because every device
nowadays can run it, and every device is powerful enough to do a decent job
with it.
Now, if you feel that you absolutely need to monitor your Thunderbolt with
your cell phone, I suggest you get a life :)
My suggestion was mainly based on using a laptop or other "computer", just
like LadyHeather does not.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Chris Albertson <
albertson.chris@gmail.com
wrote:
Sending GIF images is not a good idea for several reasons
- If the display updates once per second, you'd need to send an entire
GIF
image every second,
2) What if the user has a very small screen, like a cell phone, or he
has a
large screen? The GIF will either be the wrong size or you need a way to
tell the server what size image to make
3) How to zoom and change the image scale? Again all the heavy lifting
must be dome on the server side
THis is backwards. I'd like the monitor to run on very LOW-END hardware,
like a PIC, AVR chip or whatever and hopefully without even the need to
boot an OS.
One way to move data from a monior to a display is SNMP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Network_Management_Protocol
This can be implemented with a very light weight process and not very
much
data moves over the network. Also display programs that run on the
desktop computer already exist. It is easy to query and plot SNMP data.
So makethe Thunderbolt look like an SNMP device.
SNMP implements commends that i effect say "get me the temperature data
for
the last N hours." or "set this parameter to this value". It is exactly
what is needed and we don't need to write the client side software.
Unless
you'd want a custom display.
I think the monitor should be able to run on atiny uP, something that
cost
$20 or so and use very little power, under 1W.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:30 AM, Didier Juges shalimr9@gmail.com
wrote:
I can imagine creating a screen image as a jpeg and making it available
via the web server.
I have done that before for something else (a headless device.)
Didier KO4BB
Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Eric Williams wd6cmu@gmail.com
wrote:
Would be nice if someone did a Linux port of LH that could run on a
Raspberry Pi or something, then you could embed it into your T-Bolt
installation. Plug in a HDMI monitor if you want to look at it all
the
time, or come in remotely via Ethernet.
No, the display capability needs to be removed from the the
software.
A
ported LH would just put the data someplace. A second program could
create
plots and it could run on a different computer. Getting rid of the
display would make the porting go faster and no tie you to some
specific
platform.
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Redondo Beach, California
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