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bobflower@aol.com
Sat, Sep 26, 2009 5:32 PM

Looking for some suggestions on the best Wi Fi equipment (MFG) to secure the best possible connection. To start some serious travel in Ocean Rose, I need to be connected to the Internet for business reasons. This is one area that I am willing to spend the proper amount of money to secure the best equipment. Outside antenna, amplifier, low loss cable, Either net connection into Apple Air Port Extreme would be best for me.

Thanks so much for the suggestions.

Bob Wilkins
Ocean Rose

Looking for some suggestions on the best Wi Fi equipment (MFG) to secure the best possible connection. To start some serious travel in Ocean Rose, I need to be connected to the Internet for business reasons. This is one area that I am willing to spend the proper amount of money to secure the best equipment. Outside antenna, amplifier, low loss cable, Either net connection into Apple Air Port Extreme would be best for me. Thanks so much for the suggestions. Bob Wilkins Ocean Rose
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David Marchand
Sat, Sep 26, 2009 6:02 PM

Bob:

I just spent nine months cruising from the west coast of Florida to Maine
and back to the Chesapeake. I had both a Verizon aircard and a wifi
amplifier, low loss cable and an antenna mounted on my bimini.

The wifi gear just wasn't worth it. It did work and extended the available
signal strength several times from what was available from the built in wifi
on my laptop.

But the number of unprotected usable wifi sites was too small to be of any
use.

The only time I really used it and it was very useful in this case, was in
Oriental, NC. There the Verizon signal was horribly slow. But there was a
free wifi signal at the marina at Oriental harbor. I was anchored about 1/4
mile away in line of sight and the amplifier rig pulled in the signal
nicely. Since I was anchored there for a week or so, I had internet coverage
that I wouldn't have had otherwise.

But this was a rare exception.

Anchored off of Miami Beach I had dozens of potential wifi sites but they
were all protected.

I suppose this is the difference between urban Miami and laid back Oriental.
But it was generally the case. Even in Maine I had 4-5 potential wifi sites
at The Basin a popular anchorage, but all were protected.

OTOH, 95% of the time I had a usable Verizon signal and 75% of the time it
was quite good.

So consider your wifi gear purchase carefully. It was not worth it IMHO.

David

Bob: I just spent nine months cruising from the west coast of Florida to Maine and back to the Chesapeake. I had both a Verizon aircard and a wifi amplifier, low loss cable and an antenna mounted on my bimini. The wifi gear just wasn't worth it. It did work and extended the available signal strength several times from what was available from the built in wifi on my laptop. But the number of unprotected usable wifi sites was too small to be of any use. The only time I really used it and it was very useful in this case, was in Oriental, NC. There the Verizon signal was horribly slow. But there was a free wifi signal at the marina at Oriental harbor. I was anchored about 1/4 mile away in line of sight and the amplifier rig pulled in the signal nicely. Since I was anchored there for a week or so, I had internet coverage that I wouldn't have had otherwise. But this was a rare exception. Anchored off of Miami Beach I had dozens of potential wifi sites but they were all protected. I suppose this is the difference between urban Miami and laid back Oriental. But it was generally the case. Even in Maine I had 4-5 potential wifi sites at The Basin a popular anchorage, but all were protected. OTOH, 95% of the time I had a usable Verizon signal and 75% of the time it was quite good. So consider your wifi gear purchase carefully. It was not worth it IMHO. David
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Frank Burrows
Sat, Sep 26, 2009 6:08 PM

Bob:

You will get lots of suggestions. I am using a Port Networks bridge
which is not the best solution. What I found is that the signal loss
through a remote antenna is HUGE.

Make sure your solution has the electronics built into the antenna so
there is no signal loss. Once the wifi signal is converted to data you
can run all the cables you need or do it wirelessly.

Frank Burrows

bobflower@aol.com wrote:

Looking for some suggestions on the best Wi Fi equipment (MFG) to secure the best possible connection. To start some serious travel in Ocean Rose, I need to be connected to the Internet for business reasons. This is one area that I am willing to spend the proper amount of money to secure the best equipment. Outside antenna, amplifier, low loss cable, Either net connection into Apple Air Port Extreme would be best for me.

Bob: You will get lots of suggestions. I am using a Port Networks bridge which is not the best solution. What I found is that the signal loss through a remote antenna is HUGE. Make sure your solution has the electronics built into the antenna so there is no signal loss. Once the wifi signal is converted to data you can run all the cables you need or do it wirelessly. Frank Burrows bobflower@aol.com wrote: > Looking for some suggestions on the best Wi Fi equipment (MFG) to secure the best possible connection. To start some serious travel in Ocean Rose, I need to be connected to the Internet for business reasons. This is one area that I am willing to spend the proper amount of money to secure the best equipment. Outside antenna, amplifier, low loss cable, Either net connection into Apple Air Port Extreme would be best for me.
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rollsdoc@aol.com
Sat, Sep 26, 2009 6:48 PM

Take a look at www.wifisolutionslynx.com ?works well for me. I had their system alongside my Radiolabs and the Lynx has almost 5 times the available sites most times.
Rodger

Take a look at www.wifisolutionslynx.com ?works well for me. I had their system alongside my Radiolabs and the Lynx has almost 5 times the available sites most times. Rodger -
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Rich Werner
Sat, Sep 26, 2009 6:54 PM

Do a search for the posts on the Nanostation2.  Inexpensive - around $50.00
and very effective.

Rich


Rich & Laura Werner
GB32-277

Do a search for the posts on the Nanostation2. Inexpensive - around $50.00 and very effective. Rich ______________________________ Rich & Laura Werner GB32-277
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Bob Peterson
Sat, Sep 26, 2009 7:14 PM

David, as we've discussed several times on T&T, unprotected Wi-Fi sites are
getting rarer and rarer.  On the West Coast, that has a lot to do with the
fact that AT&T now mails out their router defaulted to web-protection ON.
It is enabled by default.  So those who plug it is and toss away the
instructions, the majority it appears, are all protected now.

Unlike you, I find my Verizon Air-Card excellent up and down the West Coast.
It is not always top speed, but often it is.  There are still a few places
in remote areas where there simply isn't any signal at all, but those are
thankfully rare.

As you found the day of the "free lunch" with unprotected Wi-Fi access are
gone.  Vendors like AT&T defaulting their routers to Protected are one
source.  The fear of unprotecting their routers by ill-informed customers is
another cause.  But I found the Air Card a better compromise than paying $10
a day for commercial Wi-Fi.

Bob Peterson
"Lopaka Nane"
47' Lien Hwa CPMY
San Francisco

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of David Marchand
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 11:03 AM
To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Subject: Re: T&T: Wi Fi suggestions

Bob:

I just spent nine months cruising from the west coast of Florida to Maine
and back to the Chesapeake. I had both a Verizon aircard and a wifi
amplifier, low loss cable and an antenna mounted on my bimini.

The wifi gear just wasn't worth it. It did work and extended the available
signal strength several times from what was available from the built in wifi

on my laptop.

But the number of unprotected usable wifi sites was too small to be of any
use.
ited.

David, as we've discussed several times on T&T, unprotected Wi-Fi sites are getting rarer and rarer. On the West Coast, that has a lot to do with the fact that AT&T now mails out their router defaulted to web-protection ON. It is enabled by default. So those who plug it is and toss away the instructions, the majority it appears, are all protected now. Unlike you, I find my Verizon Air-Card excellent up and down the West Coast. It is not always top speed, but often it is. There are still a few places in remote areas where there simply isn't any signal at all, but those are thankfully rare. As you found the day of the "free lunch" with unprotected Wi-Fi access are gone. Vendors like AT&T defaulting their routers to Protected are one source. The fear of unprotecting their routers by ill-informed customers is another cause. But I found the Air Card a better compromise than paying $10 a day for commercial Wi-Fi. Bob Peterson "Lopaka Nane" 47' Lien Hwa CPMY San Francisco -----Original Message----- From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces+bob=peterson.org@lists.samurai.com [mailto:trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces+bob=peterson.org@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of David Marchand Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 11:03 AM To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com Subject: Re: T&T: Wi Fi suggestions Bob: I just spent nine months cruising from the west coast of Florida to Maine and back to the Chesapeake. I had both a Verizon aircard and a wifi amplifier, low loss cable and an antenna mounted on my bimini. The wifi gear just wasn't worth it. It did work and extended the available signal strength several times from what was available from the built in wifi on my laptop. But the number of unprotected usable wifi sites was too small to be of any use. ited.
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Warren Keuffel
Sat, Sep 26, 2009 7:32 PM

Cruising in BC this summer, I found that I needed the  ability to
connect via both Verizon and WiFi -- about 45%  for each and 10%
where nothing worked.

BTW I got a BlackBerry Storm partially for its tethering ability
(added-cost feature) and thereby was able to drop the $60/mo aircard
and only have one mobile device. What they don't tell you is that
when you go on the international plan, data access only applies to
the Storm -- not to the tether. My roaming bill was $900 for the
month! Fortunately they reversed the charges. So now, in BC, my
preferred access mode is via WiFi.

Warren

On Sep 26, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Bob Peterson wrote:

Unlike you, I find my Verizon Air-Card excellent up and down the
West Coast.
It is not always top speed, but often it is.  There are still a few
places
in remote areas where there simply isn't any signal at all, but
those are
thankfully rare.

Cruising in BC this summer, I found that I needed the ability to connect via both Verizon and WiFi -- about 45% for each and 10% where nothing worked. BTW I got a BlackBerry Storm partially for its tethering ability (added-cost feature) and thereby was able to drop the $60/mo aircard and only have one mobile device. What they don't tell you is that when you go on the international plan, data access only applies to the Storm -- not to the tether. My roaming bill was $900 for the month! Fortunately they reversed the charges. So now, in BC, my preferred access mode is via WiFi. Warren On Sep 26, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Bob Peterson wrote: > Unlike you, I find my Verizon Air-Card excellent up and down the > West Coast. > It is not always top speed, but often it is. There are still a few > places > in remote areas where there simply isn't any signal at all, but > those are > thankfully rare.
BH
Bob H
Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:46 AM

Bob,

I installed this setup this summer:

http://keenansystems.com/Engenius_wifi_setup_for_boats_eoc-322_ext_eub-362_ext.htm

I went with the 3rd option down the page (400mw Bridge).  However I got
better performance with an antenna from Netgear (ANT-2409), and it has a
better mounting bracket.  Antenna is on my arch, with 6' low loss cable
(again from Netgear) to the bridge which is mounted under the wetbar area.
I tested signal strength with the Engenius antenna and 2' pigtail vs. the
Netgear antenna and 6' cable and the Netgear still got higher strength even
with the longer cable.  Then again ... the antenna itself is close to $100
vs the Engenius being $28.

I can pickup unsecured or secure pay for use access points well beyond the
range of a plain old notebook pc.  It also makes any in marina wifi rock
solid, no drops etc.

Later in the summer I added the ESR-1221 wifi router ... so I have wired and
wireless capability for multiple devices.

Bob H

----- Original Message -----
From: bobflower@aol.com
To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:32 PM
Subject: T&T: Wi Fi suggestions

Looking for some suggestions on the best Wi Fi equipment (MFG) to secure
the best possible connection. To start some serious travel in Ocean Rose,
I need to be connected to the Internet for business reasons. This is one
area that I am willing to spend the proper amount of money to secure the
best equipment. Outside antenna, amplifier, low loss cable, Either net
connection into Apple Air Port Extreme would be best for me.

Thanks so much for the suggestions.

Bob Wilkins
Ocean Rose


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Bob, I installed this setup this summer: http://keenansystems.com/Engenius_wifi_setup_for_boats_eoc-322_ext_eub-362_ext.htm I went with the 3rd option down the page (400mw Bridge). However I got better performance with an antenna from Netgear (ANT-2409), and it has a better mounting bracket. Antenna is on my arch, with 6' low loss cable (again from Netgear) to the bridge which is mounted under the wetbar area. I tested signal strength with the Engenius antenna and 2' pigtail vs. the Netgear antenna and 6' cable and the Netgear still got higher strength even with the longer cable. Then again ... the antenna itself is close to $100 vs the Engenius being $28. I can pickup unsecured or secure pay for use access points well beyond the range of a plain old notebook pc. It also makes any in marina wifi rock solid, no drops etc. Later in the summer I added the ESR-1221 wifi router ... so I have wired and wireless capability for multiple devices. Bob H ----- Original Message ----- From: <bobflower@aol.com> To: <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:32 PM Subject: T&T: Wi Fi suggestions > Looking for some suggestions on the best Wi Fi equipment (MFG) to secure > the best possible connection. To start some serious travel in Ocean Rose, > I need to be connected to the Internet for business reasons. This is one > area that I am willing to spend the proper amount of money to secure the > best equipment. Outside antenna, amplifier, low loss cable, Either net > connection into Apple Air Port Extreme would be best for me. > > Thanks so much for the suggestions. > > Bob Wilkins > Ocean Rose > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.