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Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz Band-Pass Filter Needed

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Richard W. Solomon
Thu, Jan 8, 2009 7:33 PM

Looks like I can beat that price, the SCLF or SXLP devices are $8.95 each.

73, Dick, W1KSZ

-----Original Message-----

From: "Lux, James P" james.p.lux@jpl.nasa.gov
Sent: Jan 8, 2009 2:11 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz Band-Pass Filter Needed

James Lux, P.E.
Task Manager, SOMD Software Defined Radios
Flight Communications Systems Section
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
4800 Oak Grove Drive, Mail Stop 161-213
Pasadena, CA, 91109
+1(818)354-2075 phone
+1(818)393-6875 fax

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com
[mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:30 AM
To: danrae@verizon.net; Discussion of precise time and
frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz Band-Pass Filter Needed

Dan Rae wrote:

Richard W. Solomon wrote:

The GPSDO I want to use has an output rich in harmonics. In some
cases that is good, but Murphy rules and in the application I have
today, it is not good.

I need a 10 MHz Band-Pass Filter, Bandwidth is not critical,
something small with SMA connectors would be ideal, but I

can live with BNC.

Anyone have such a beast or know where I can get one ? I checked
Mini-Circuits and choked on the price !!

You mean the ever popular BBP-10.7 for $41?
Hard to beat that price for something comparable.

Dick, it is really easy to build one.  The wonderful (free!) filter
design program ELSIE will give you all the help you need.  I would
have thought an hour or so with a couple of toroids would do the
trick.  Even just a Low Pass filter would usually do to

turn a square wave into a sine...

It's actually much better to use an LPF than a bandpass
filter if you don't have subharmonic energy to deal with.  An
LPF with a cutoff midway between the fundamental and the 2nd
harmonic will show much less tempco (in the form of phase
shift over temperature) than a bandpass filter.

You might even be able to use some wonky little filter feedthrough with a suitable cutoff frequency.


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Looks like I can beat that price, the SCLF or SXLP devices are $8.95 each. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -----Original Message----- >From: "Lux, James P" <james.p.lux@jpl.nasa.gov> >Sent: Jan 8, 2009 2:11 PM >To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> >Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz Band-Pass Filter Needed > > > >James Lux, P.E. >Task Manager, SOMD Software Defined Radios >Flight Communications Systems Section >Jet Propulsion Laboratory >4800 Oak Grove Drive, Mail Stop 161-213 >Pasadena, CA, 91109 >+1(818)354-2075 phone >+1(818)393-6875 fax > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com >> [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR >> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:30 AM >> To: danrae@verizon.net; Discussion of precise time and >> frequency measurement >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz Band-Pass Filter Needed >> >> Dan Rae wrote: >> > Richard W. Solomon wrote: >> >> The GPSDO I want to use has an output rich in harmonics. In some >> >> cases that is good, but Murphy rules and in the application I have >> >> today, it is not good. >> >> >> >> I need a 10 MHz Band-Pass Filter, Bandwidth is not critical, >> >> something small with SMA connectors would be ideal, but I >> can live with BNC. >> >> >> >> Anyone have such a beast or know where I can get one ? I checked >> >> Mini-Circuits and choked on the price !! > >You mean the ever popular BBP-10.7 for $41? >Hard to beat that price for something comparable. > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > Dick, it is really easy to build one. The wonderful (free!) filter >> > design program ELSIE will give you all the help you need. I would >> > have thought an hour or so with a couple of toroids would do the >> > trick. Even just a Low Pass filter would usually do to >> turn a square wave into a sine... >> >> It's actually much better to use an LPF than a bandpass >> filter if you don't have subharmonic energy to deal with. An >> LPF with a cutoff midway between the fundamental and the 2nd >> harmonic will show much less tempco (in the form of phase >> shift over temperature) than a bandpass filter. > >You might even be able to use some wonky little filter feedthrough with a suitable cutoff frequency. > >_______________________________________________ >time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >and follow the instructions there.