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Racor 2 Micron vrs 10 Micron

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Trainman484848@aol.com
Thu, Jun 29, 2006 7:31 PM

Look, everyone gets to live with their own decisions.
If installing  2-micron primaries is a way to defer
routine maintenance on the secondary  filters, its
asking for trouble. Until I see some real evidence
(rather  than supposition) that suggests there's a
whole bunch of junk bypassing a  properly maintained
10-micron primary and clogging a properly  maintained
2-micron secondary, I'm going to follow the
recommendations of  engine and filter manufacturers -
especially since it's their warranty money  and R&D
money on the line. I just don't think they'd be making
these  recommendations if it wasn't sound advice - they
would stand to lose a lot  and gain very little.

Just my opinion -

Peter
www.SeaSkills.com (http://www.SeaSkills.com)

Hello Peter

There have been a lot of posts on this and you may be mixing up mine with
some others. I'm not suggesting that the traditional primary secondary doesn't
work or that the primary will allow large amounts of dirt to pass thru and
clog  the secondary. If the traditional system is right both filters will collect
dirt  as designed definitely no "Oh My Gawd" My position is that the only
advantage to  the traditional system is more filter area because both filters are
working at  the micron level installed. The same thing can be accomplished by
increasing  filter area on a 2 micron primary.

Unlike the "experts" in your link I believe the vacuum gauge is extremely
useful over the entire RPM range if you use it correctly. With new elements in
place I take readings at various RPM to get a baseline to work from I'm more
interested in change then the actual number. I also never suggested that the
final can be left in forever it won't need to be changed as often as the
primary  but should be changed periodically so as not to deteriorate from age or
moisture.

The big difference in my way of thinking and yours or your "experts" can be
best understood 150 miles offshore on a snotty night. I can glance at a vacuum
gauge and know the overall condition of my fuel system and you can't.

Brian Palmetto FL

Look, everyone gets to live with their own decisions. If installing 2-micron primaries is a way to defer routine maintenance on the secondary filters, its asking for trouble. Until I see some real evidence (rather than supposition) that suggests there's a whole bunch of junk bypassing a properly maintained 10-micron primary and clogging a properly maintained 2-micron secondary, I'm going to follow the recommendations of engine and filter manufacturers - especially since it's their warranty money and R&D money on the line. I just don't think they'd be making these recommendations if it wasn't sound advice - they would stand to lose a lot and gain very little. Just my opinion - Peter _www.SeaSkills.com_ (http://www.SeaSkills.com) Hello Peter There have been a lot of posts on this and you may be mixing up mine with some others. I'm not suggesting that the traditional primary secondary doesn't work or that the primary will allow large amounts of dirt to pass thru and clog the secondary. If the traditional system is right both filters will collect dirt as designed definitely no "Oh My Gawd" My position is that the only advantage to the traditional system is more filter area because both filters are working at the micron level installed. The same thing can be accomplished by increasing filter area on a 2 micron primary. Unlike the "experts" in your link I believe the vacuum gauge is extremely useful over the entire RPM range if you use it correctly. With new elements in place I take readings at various RPM to get a baseline to work from I'm more interested in change then the actual number. I also never suggested that the final can be left in forever it won't need to be changed as often as the primary but should be changed periodically so as not to deteriorate from age or moisture. The big difference in my way of thinking and yours or your "experts" can be best understood 150 miles offshore on a snotty night. I can glance at a vacuum gauge and know the overall condition of my fuel system and you can't. Brian Palmetto FL
D
dd@gregsteckel.com
Thu, Jun 29, 2006 7:52 PM

Regardless of which camp you are in, no one has really suggested using the
wrong size filter will cause any damage as long as the filters are changed
when required.  I have 2 micron in now and will see how long they last
before needing replaced - I also decided to spare both sizes just so I have
a choice when I do replace them next time...

Greg Steckel
M/V Different Drummer
President 35 Sundeck


www.chesapeaketrawlering.com
www.chesapeakesailor.com
www.fmyc.org

-----Original Message-----
From: Trainman484848@aol.com [mailto:Trainman484848@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 3:31 PM
To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Subject: T&T: Racor 2 Micron vrs 10 Micron

Look, everyone gets to live with their own decisions.
If installing  2-micron primaries is a way to defer routine maintenance on
the secondary  filters, its asking for trouble. Until I see some real
evidence (rather  than supposition) that suggests there's a whole bunch of
junk bypassing a  properly maintained 10-micron primary and clogging a
properly  maintained 2-micron secondary, I'm going to follow the
recommendations of  engine and filter manufacturers - especially since it's
their warranty money  and R&D money on the line. I just don't think they'd
be making these  recommendations if it wasn't sound advice - they would
stand to lose a lot  and gain very little.

Just my opinion -

Peter
www.SeaSkills.com (http://www.SeaSkills.com)

Hello Peter

There have been a lot of posts on this and you may be mixing up mine with
some others. I'm not suggesting that the traditional primary secondary
doesn't work or that the primary will allow large amounts of dirt to pass
thru and clog  the secondary. If the traditional system is right both
filters will collect dirt  as designed definitely no "Oh My Gawd" My
position is that the only advantage to  the traditional system is more
filter area because both filters are working at  the micron level installed.
The same thing can be accomplished by increasing  filter area on a 2 micron
primary.

Unlike the "experts" in your link I believe the vacuum gauge is extremely
useful over the entire RPM range if you use it correctly. With new elements
in place I take readings at various RPM to get a baseline to work from I'm
more interested in change then the actual number. I also never suggested
that the final can be left in forever it won't need to be changed as often
as the primary  but should be changed periodically so as not to deteriorate
from age or moisture.

The big difference in my way of thinking and yours or your "experts" can be
best understood 150 miles offshore on a snotty night. I can glance at a
vacuum  gauge and know the overall condition of my fuel system and you
can't.

Brian Palmetto FL


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Regardless of which camp you are in, no one has really suggested using the wrong size filter will cause any damage as long as the filters are changed when required. I have 2 micron in now and will see how long they last before needing replaced - I also decided to spare both sizes just so I have a choice when I do replace them next time... Greg Steckel M/V Different Drummer President 35 Sundeck ____________________ www.chesapeaketrawlering.com www.chesapeakesailor.com www.fmyc.org -----Original Message----- From: Trainman484848@aol.com [mailto:Trainman484848@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 3:31 PM To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com Subject: T&T: Racor 2 Micron vrs 10 Micron Look, everyone gets to live with their own decisions. If installing 2-micron primaries is a way to defer routine maintenance on the secondary filters, its asking for trouble. Until I see some real evidence (rather than supposition) that suggests there's a whole bunch of junk bypassing a properly maintained 10-micron primary and clogging a properly maintained 2-micron secondary, I'm going to follow the recommendations of engine and filter manufacturers - especially since it's their warranty money and R&D money on the line. I just don't think they'd be making these recommendations if it wasn't sound advice - they would stand to lose a lot and gain very little. Just my opinion - Peter _www.SeaSkills.com_ (http://www.SeaSkills.com) Hello Peter There have been a lot of posts on this and you may be mixing up mine with some others. I'm not suggesting that the traditional primary secondary doesn't work or that the primary will allow large amounts of dirt to pass thru and clog the secondary. If the traditional system is right both filters will collect dirt as designed definitely no "Oh My Gawd" My position is that the only advantage to the traditional system is more filter area because both filters are working at the micron level installed. The same thing can be accomplished by increasing filter area on a 2 micron primary. Unlike the "experts" in your link I believe the vacuum gauge is extremely useful over the entire RPM range if you use it correctly. With new elements in place I take readings at various RPM to get a baseline to work from I'm more interested in change then the actual number. I also never suggested that the final can be left in forever it won't need to be changed as often as the primary but should be changed periodically so as not to deteriorate from age or moisture. The big difference in my way of thinking and yours or your "experts" can be best understood 150 miles offshore on a snotty night. I can glance at a vacuum gauge and know the overall condition of my fuel system and you can't. Brian Palmetto FL _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To unsubscribe send email to trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com with the word UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.