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10 mile trip to boatyard with two good engines and one propeller

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badornato
Tue, Apr 21, 2015 11:09 PM

As I reported last week, our new to us old Nova 36 trawler
spit her port prop shaft out of the coupler on a training mission with
vigorous use
of forward/reverse throttles.
The errant port shaft cannot slip further aft with makeshift clamps but we
cannot get
her forward either.

Thurs am, I am helping son take boat to 10 mile away boat yard for shaft
re- placement
(put back in coupler) and long overdue bottom paint job.

She seems to move pretty well in a straight line on only the starboard
engine with a lot of rudder.  I was thinking about making the trip more
?balanced and perhaps give me better handling in close quarters  by hanging
a couple of used tires over the starboard bow or amidships  as compensatory
drag.

Thoughts??

Bruce Adornato
San Francisco
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Nova 36

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As I reported last week, our new to us old Nova 36 trawler spit her port prop shaft out of the coupler on a training mission with vigorous use of forward/reverse throttles. The errant port shaft cannot slip further aft with makeshift clamps but we cannot get her forward either. Thurs am, I am helping son take boat to 10 mile away boat yard for shaft re- placement (put back in coupler) and long overdue bottom paint job. She seems to move pretty well in a straight line on only the starboard engine with a lot of rudder. I was thinking about making the trip more ?balanced and perhaps give me better handling in close quarters by hanging a couple of used tires over the starboard bow or amidships as compensatory drag. Thoughts?? Bruce Adornato San Francisco Good News Bad News Nova 36 -- bta
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Bob McLeran
Tue, Apr 21, 2015 11:44 PM

Bruce, a lot of twin engine trawlers travel on one engine/shaft from
time to time as a fuel saving measure. Our former trawler had twins and
although we didn't do it as an economy thing, from time to time we'd run
with just one engine/shaft to learn how to steer in the event of a
single engine casualty.

I think you won't gain anything by throwing tires or anything else over
the side to increase drag other than slowing the boat down and creating
a hindrance when you pull along side a pier or enter the travel lift.
The boat will steer perfectly well for turning, straight line, etc, even
through the rudder-angle-indicator may be off a bit from what you would
normally expect with both engines pushing their weight.

You're just going to get an unplanned and quick lesson in single engine
maneuvering, IMHO! I'd sure want to practice backing and filling before
you get to the point where you have to enter the sling just to get a
feel for how she'll handle.

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On 4/21/2015 7:09 PM, badornato via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote:

She seems to move pretty well in a straight line on only the starboard
engine with a lot of rudder.  I was thinking about making the trip more
?balanced and perhaps give me better handling in close quarters  by hanging
a couple of used tires over the starboard bow or amidships  as compensatory
drag.

Bruce, a lot of twin engine trawlers travel on one engine/shaft from time to time as a fuel saving measure. Our former trawler had twins and although we didn't do it as an economy thing, from time to time we'd run with just one engine/shaft to learn how to steer in the event of a single engine casualty. I think you won't gain anything by throwing tires or anything else over the side to increase drag other than slowing the boat down and creating a hindrance when you pull along side a pier or enter the travel lift. The boat will steer perfectly well for turning, straight line, etc, even through the rudder-angle-indicator may be off a bit from what you would normally expect with both engines pushing their weight. You're just going to get an unplanned and quick lesson in single engine maneuvering, IMHO! I'd sure want to practice backing and filling before you get to the point where you have to enter the sling just to get a feel for how she'll handle. <><><><><><><><><><><><>Mozilla Thunderbird<><><><><><><><><><> Bob McLeran and Judy Young Manatee Cove Marina MV Sanderling Patrick Air Force Base DeFever 41 Trawler Melbourne, Florida Blog: http://mvsanderling.net/Blog Web: http://cruising.mvsanderling.net/ On 4/21/2015 7:09 PM, badornato via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote: She seems to move pretty well in a straight line on only the starboard engine with a lot of rudder. I was thinking about making the trip more ?balanced and perhaps give me better handling in close quarters by hanging a couple of used tires over the starboard bow or amidships as compensatory drag.
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Janice Marois
Wed, Apr 22, 2015 3:50 AM

Side note Bruce:

Aboard Seaweed, on the inside just forward of the stuffing box I have a
pair of shaft zincs. Their purpose is not electrolysis related. Instead,
the duo are to insure my shaft does not take any unexpected trips back too
far.

The added benefit is that I've always got a spare shaft zinc.
Just something to keep in mind when you finish your repairs...

Janice aboard Seaweed
http://janice142.com

And yes, I have sheared the key in my transmission causing the shaft to
back PARTIALLY out. The zincs did their job. :)

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 7:09 PM, badornato via Trawlers-and-Trawlering <
trawlers@lists.trawlering.com> wrote:

The errant port shaft cannot slip further aft with makeshift clamps but we
cannot get
her forward either.

Side note Bruce: Aboard Seaweed, on the inside just forward of the stuffing box I have a pair of shaft zincs. Their purpose is not electrolysis related. Instead, the duo are to insure my shaft does not take any unexpected trips back too far. The added benefit is that I've always got a spare shaft zinc. Just something to keep in mind when you finish your repairs... Janice aboard Seaweed http://janice142.com And yes, I have sheared the key in my transmission causing the shaft to back PARTIALLY out. The zincs did their job. :) On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 7:09 PM, badornato via Trawlers-and-Trawlering < trawlers@lists.trawlering.com> wrote: > > The errant port shaft cannot slip further aft with makeshift clamps but we > cannot get > her forward either.