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Tanker3
Mon, Mar 20, 2017 10:43 AM

I am very new to Open SCAD and I am trying to produce a part for a model I am
making.This is a drive wheel with a series of holes round its periphery, at
equal spacing. I have followed the 'difference' method to produce the
central axle hole, no problem there, and have used the 'children' method to
produce small cylinders, at the desired positions around the periphery. Now
I dont seem to be able to use the 'difference' method to make these holes
instead of cylinders. Seems whatever I try I come up with syntax error.
Probably a bit thick but would appreciate some guidance.

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I am very new to Open SCAD and I am trying to produce a part for a model I am making.This is a drive wheel with a series of holes round its periphery, at equal spacing. I have followed the 'difference' method to produce the central axle hole, no problem there, and have used the 'children' method to produce small cylinders, at the desired positions around the periphery. Now I dont seem to be able to use the 'difference' method to make these holes instead of cylinders. Seems whatever I try I come up with syntax error. Probably a bit thick but would appreciate some guidance. -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/trouble-making-a-round-flange-with-holes-in-tp20961.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Ronaldo Persiano
Mon, Mar 20, 2017 11:06 AM

It is impossible to identify a syntax error without seeing the code.

It is impossible to identify a syntax error without seeing the code.
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Tanker3
Tue, Mar 21, 2017 7:32 AM

Many apologies.
The code I have been trying to use is:

make_ring_of (radius = 40, count = 12)
cylinder (r = 4, h = 10, centre = true);
module make_ring_of (radius, count)
{
for (a = [0: count -1]){
angle = a * 360 /count;
translate (radius * [sin(angle), -cos(angle), 0])
rotate ([0, 0, angle])
children ();
}
}
translate ([0,0,2]){
difference (){
cylinder (h=5, r=50);
cylinder (h=10, r=5);
}
}

This gives me the disc with a central hole of 10mm diameter with a ring of
cylinders at 40 mm radius. This I am happy with, but then, when I try to
include the code for making the ring of cylinders in to the difference part
of the code in order to remove the ring of cylinders and replace them with
holes it won't work.

I am very new to using code and feel that I must have missed something
fundamental.

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Many apologies. The code I have been trying to use is: make_ring_of (radius = 40, count = 12) cylinder (r = 4, h = 10, centre = true); module make_ring_of (radius, count) { for (a = [0: count -1]){ angle = a * 360 /count; translate (radius * [sin(angle), -cos(angle), 0]) rotate ([0, 0, angle]) children (); } } translate ([0,0,2]){ difference (){ cylinder (h=5, r=50); cylinder (h=10, r=5); } } This gives me the disc with a central hole of 10mm diameter with a ring of cylinders at 40 mm radius. This I am happy with, but then, when I try to include the code for making the ring of cylinders in to the difference part of the code in order to remove the ring of cylinders and replace them with holes it won't work. I am very new to using code and feel that I must have missed something fundamental. -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/trouble-making-a-round-flange-with-holes-in-tp20961p20972.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Ronaldo Persiano
Tue, Mar 21, 2017 12:17 PM

Remove the second brace after children() and try.

Remove the second brace after children() and try.
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Ian Nichols
Tue, Mar 21, 2017 12:47 PM

On 21 March 2017 at 07:32, Tanker3 josieandpaul1@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

Many apologies.
The code I have been trying to use is:

make_ring_of (radius = 40, count = 12)
cylinder (r = 4, h = 10, centre = true);
module make_ring_of (radius, count)
{
for (a = [0: count -1]){
angle = a * 360 /count;
translate (radius * [sin(angle), -cos(angle), 0])
rotate ([0, 0, angle])
children ();
}
}
translate ([0,0,2]){
difference (){
cylinder (h=5, r=50);
cylinder (h=10, r=5);
}
}

This gives me the disc with a central hole of 10mm diameter with a ring of
cylinders at 40 mm radius. This I am happy with, but then, when I try to
include the code for making the ring of cylinders in to the difference part
of the code in order to remove the ring of cylinders and replace them with
holes it won't work.

I am very new to using code and feel that I must have missed something
fundamental.

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You've put the code to generate the ring of cylinders in the wrong place,
as far as I can see.  Difference () will subtract, from the first object in
its list, all the other objects in the list.

This should do it, when expanded with the necessary code:

translate ([0,0,2]){
difference (){
cylinder (h=5, r=50);
cylinder (h=10, r=5);

<put code for ring of cylinders to be subtracted in here>

}
}

Ian

Stand firm for what you believe in, until and unless logic and experience
prove you wrong.  Remember: when the emperor looks naked, the emperor is
naked, the truth and a lie are not "sort-of the same thing" and there is
no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza.

-Daria Morgendorffer

On 21 March 2017 at 07:32, Tanker3 <josieandpaul1@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > Many apologies. > The code I have been trying to use is: > > make_ring_of (radius = 40, count = 12) > cylinder (r = 4, h = 10, centre = true); > module make_ring_of (radius, count) > { > for (a = [0: count -1]){ > angle = a * 360 /count; > translate (radius * [sin(angle), -cos(angle), 0]) > rotate ([0, 0, angle]) > children (); > } > } > translate ([0,0,2]){ > difference (){ > cylinder (h=5, r=50); > cylinder (h=10, r=5); > } > } > > This gives me the disc with a central hole of 10mm diameter with a ring of > cylinders at 40 mm radius. This I am happy with, but then, when I try to > include the code for making the ring of cylinders in to the difference part > of the code in order to remove the ring of cylinders and replace them with > holes it won't work. > > I am very new to using code and feel that I must have missed something > fundamental. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/ > trouble-making-a-round-flange-with-holes-in-tp20961p20972.html > Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org > You've put the code to generate the ring of cylinders in the wrong place, as far as I can see. Difference () will subtract, from the first object in its list, all the other objects in the list. This should do it, when expanded with the necessary code: translate ([0,0,2]){ difference (){ cylinder (h=5, r=50); cylinder (h=10, r=5); <put code for ring of cylinders to be subtracted in here> } } Ian -- Stand firm for what you believe in, until and unless logic and experience prove you wrong. Remember: when the emperor looks naked, the emperor *is* naked, the truth and a lie are not "sort-of the same thing" and there is no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza. -Daria Morgendorffer
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Tanker3
Tue, Mar 21, 2017 1:39 PM

I tried what you suggested with no luck. I still come up with parser error
between 'module' and 'make_ring_of'. I've also tried moving the code for the
ring of cylinders into the code for difference() and still no luck. Maybe
I'm trying to do it the wrong way.

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I tried what you suggested with no luck. I still come up with parser error between 'module' and 'make_ring_of'. I've also tried moving the code for the ring of cylinders into the code for difference() and still no luck. Maybe I'm trying to do it the wrong way. -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/trouble-making-a-round-flange-with-holes-in-tp20961p20982.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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nop head
Tue, Mar 21, 2017 2:37 PM

This works:

module make_ring_of (radius, count)
{
for (a = [0: count -1]){
angle = a * 360 /count;

    translate (radius * [sin(angle), -cos(angle), 0])
        rotate ([0, 0, angle])
            children ();
}

}

translate ([0,0,2]){
difference (){
cylinder (h=5, r=50);

    translate([0, 0, -1]) {
        cylinder (h=10, r=5);

        make_ring_of (radius = 40, count = 12)
            cylinder (r = 4, h = 10, centre = true);
    }
}

}

On 21 March 2017 at 13:39, Tanker3 josieandpaul1@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

I tried what you suggested with no luck. I still come up with parser error
between 'module' and 'make_ring_of'. I've also tried moving the code for
the
ring of cylinders into the code for difference() and still no luck. Maybe
I'm trying to do it the wrong way.

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This works: module make_ring_of (radius, count) { for (a = [0: count -1]){ angle = a * 360 /count; translate (radius * [sin(angle), -cos(angle), 0]) rotate ([0, 0, angle]) children (); } } translate ([0,0,2]){ difference (){ cylinder (h=5, r=50); translate([0, 0, -1]) { cylinder (h=10, r=5); make_ring_of (radius = 40, count = 12) cylinder (r = 4, h = 10, centre = true); } } } On 21 March 2017 at 13:39, Tanker3 <josieandpaul1@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > I tried what you suggested with no luck. I still come up with parser error > between 'module' and 'make_ring_of'. I've also tried moving the code for > the > ring of cylinders into the code for difference() and still no luck. Maybe > I'm trying to do it the wrong way. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/ > trouble-making-a-round-flange-with-holes-in-tp20961p20982.html > Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >
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Tanker3
Wed, Mar 22, 2017 7:51 AM

Many thanks! Had to amend slightly as holes didn't go right through. Last
line:
cylinder (r=4, h=13, center=true);.
Can move on now!

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Many thanks! Had to amend slightly as holes didn't go right through. Last line: cylinder (r=4, h=13, center=true);. Can move on now! -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/trouble-making-a-round-flange-with-holes-in-tp20961p20988.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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nop head
Wed, Mar 22, 2017 11:41 AM

They go all the way through on the code I posted but centre is the wrong
spelling, so yes if you correct that they would need to be longer and you
can get rid of the translate -1.

This is how I would do it:

thickness = 5;

translate ([0,0,2]){
difference (){
cylinder (h = thickness, r = 50);

    cylinder (h = 2 * thickness + 1, r = 5, center = true);

    make_ring_of (radius = 40, count = 12)
        cylinder (r = 4, h = 2 * thickness + 1, center = true);
}

}

On 22 March 2017 at 07:51, Tanker3 josieandpaul1@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

Many thanks! Had to amend slightly as holes didn't go right through. Last
line:
cylinder (r=4, h=13, center=true);.
Can move on now!

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They go all the way through on the code I posted but centre is the wrong spelling, so yes if you correct that they would need to be longer and you can get rid of the translate -1. This is how I would do it: thickness = 5; translate ([0,0,2]){ difference (){ cylinder (h = thickness, r = 50); cylinder (h = 2 * thickness + 1, r = 5, center = true); make_ring_of (radius = 40, count = 12) cylinder (r = 4, h = 2 * thickness + 1, center = true); } } On 22 March 2017 at 07:51, Tanker3 <josieandpaul1@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > Many thanks! Had to amend slightly as holes didn't go right through. Last > line: > cylinder (r=4, h=13, center=true);. > Can move on now! > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/ > trouble-making-a-round-flange-with-holes-in-tp20961p20988.html > Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >
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Ronaldo Persiano
Wed, Mar 22, 2017 12:18 PM

A small detail: in the module make_ring_of(), things gets more readable if
all the trigs are avoided:

module make_ring_of (radius, count)
{
for (a = [0: count -1]){
angle = a * 360 /count;
rotate(angle)
translate([0,-radius,0])
children ();
}
}

A small detail: in the module make_ring_of(), things gets more readable if all the trigs are avoided: module make_ring_of (radius, count) { for (a = [0: count -1]){ angle = a * 360 /count; rotate(angle) translate([0,-radius,0]) children (); } }
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Parkinbot
Wed, Mar 22, 2017 4:25 PM

Btw, this is a very useful operator, which I use everyday. In my shortcuts
library I implemented it like this:

module rotN(r=10, N=4, offs=0, M=undef) for(i=[0:(M?M-1:N-1)])
rotate([0,0,offs+i*360/N])  translate([r,0,0]) children();

// Examples
color("green") rotN(40,12) cylinder(r=4, h=10);
color("red") rotN(30,12,M=6) cylinder(r=4, h=10);
color("blue") rotN(20,12,120, 6) cylinder(r=4, h=10);

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Btw, this is a very useful operator, which I use everyday. In my shortcuts library I implemented it like this: > module rotN(r=10, N=4, offs=0, M=undef) for(i=[0:(M?M-1:N-1)]) > rotate([0,0,offs+i*360/N]) translate([r,0,0]) children(); > > // Examples > color("green") rotN(40,12) cylinder(r=4, h=10); > color("red") rotN(30,12,M=6) cylinder(r=4, h=10); > color("blue") rotN(20,12,120, 6) cylinder(r=4, h=10); -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/trouble-making-a-round-flange-with-holes-in-tp20961p20992.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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doug moen
Wed, Mar 22, 2017 5:09 PM

Cool. My version is called rep_rotate(count) shape (rep == repeat).

module rep_rotate(count)
for (i=[0:count-1])
rotate(i*360/count)
children();

color("green")
rep_rotate(12) translate([40,0,0]) cylinder(r=4, h=10);

I'm not saying this is a better interface, I just think it's interesting
that a lot of people have come up with the same abstraction, and I like to
see how other people use OpenSCAD. Now that I've seen these other modules,
I might add a radius to mine.

On 22 March 2017 at 12:25, Parkinbot rudolf@parkinbot.com wrote:

Btw, this is a very useful operator, which I use everyday. In my shortcuts
library I implemented it like this:

module rotN(r=10, N=4, offs=0, M=undef) for(i=[0:(M?M-1:N-1)])
rotate([0,0,offs+i*360/N])  translate([r,0,0]) children();

// Examples
color("green") rotN(40,12) cylinder(r=4, h=10);
color("red") rotN(30,12,M=6) cylinder(r=4, h=10);
color("blue") rotN(20,12,120, 6) cylinder(r=4, h=10);

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Cool. My version is called `rep_rotate(count) shape` (rep == repeat). module rep_rotate(count) for (i=[0:count-1]) rotate(i*360/count) children(); color("green") rep_rotate(12) translate([40,0,0]) cylinder(r=4, h=10); I'm not saying this is a better interface, I just think it's interesting that a lot of people have come up with the same abstraction, and I like to see how other people use OpenSCAD. Now that I've seen these other modules, I might add a radius to mine. On 22 March 2017 at 12:25, Parkinbot <rudolf@parkinbot.com> wrote: > Btw, this is a very useful operator, which I use everyday. In my shortcuts > library I implemented it like this: > > > > module rotN(r=10, N=4, offs=0, M=undef) for(i=[0:(M?M-1:N-1)]) > > rotate([0,0,offs+i*360/N]) translate([r,0,0]) children(); > > > > // Examples > > color("green") rotN(40,12) cylinder(r=4, h=10); > > color("red") rotN(30,12,M=6) cylinder(r=4, h=10); > > color("blue") rotN(20,12,120, 6) cylinder(r=4, h=10); > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/ > trouble-making-a-round-flange-with-holes-in-tp20961p20992.html > Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org > > >
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Ronaldo
Wed, Mar 22, 2017 7:15 PM

Parkinbot wrote

Btw, this is a very useful operator, which I use everyday. In my shortcuts
library I implemented it like this:

Nice. My trouble with that kind of function and operators is that the more
flexible they are the more parameter names I have to memorize when I need
them. Yes, I always may consult the code but that is their burden.

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Parkinbot wrote > Btw, this is a very useful operator, which I use everyday. In my shortcuts > library I implemented it like this: Nice. My trouble with that kind of function and operators is that the more flexible they are the more parameter names I have to memorize when I need them. Yes, I always may consult the code but that is their burden. -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/trouble-making-a-round-flange-with-holes-in-tp20961p20994.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Parkinbot
Wed, Mar 22, 2017 10:24 PM

Ronaldo wrote

Nice. My trouble with that kind of function and operators is that the more
flexible they are the more parameter names I have to memorize when I need
them. Yes, I always may consult the code but that is their burden.

That is why I implement a help() module in every library. For shortcuts.scad
you get the output:

ECHO: "

shortcuts.scad

help(): shows this help
help_shortcuts(): shows this help
show_examples(): shows some examples
place_in_rect(): places children objects in grid

Transformations:

transform : T(x=0, y=0, z=0), Tx(x=0) , Ty(y=0), Tz(z=0)
rotate : R(x=0, y=0, z=0), Rx(x=0) , Ry(y=0), Rz(z=0)
scale : S(x=1, y=1, z=1), Sx(x=1) , Sy(y=1), Sz(z=1)
Logical
difference : D()
union : U()
intersection : I()

Useful

N instances around circle : rotN(r=10, N=4, offs=0, M=undef)
range function [0:1:N] : Rg(N)
color : C(r,b,g,t) or C(string,t)

Primitives

circle : Ci(r=10, d=undef)
circle_half : CiH(r=10, w=0, d=undef)
circle_segment : CiS(r=10, w1=0, w2=90, d=undef)
square : Sq(x=10, y=undef, center=true))
cylinder : Cy(r=10, h=1, center=true, r1=undef, r2=undef, d=undef)
cylinder_half : CyH(r=10, w=0, d=undef)
cylinder_segment: CyS(r=10, h=1, w1=0, w2=90,center=true, d=undef)
cylinder_segment: Pie(r=10, h=1, w1=0, w2=90,center=true, d=undef)
cube : Cu(x=10, y=undef, z=undef, center=true)
ring : Ri(R=10, r=5, h=1, center=true, D=undef, d=undef)
ring_half : RiH(R=10, r=5, h=1, w=0 center=true, D=undef, d=undef)
ring_segment : RiS(R=10, r=5, h=1, w1=0, w2=90, center=true, D=undef,
d=undef)
sphere: Sp(r=10))
sphere_half: SpH(r=10, w1 = 0, w2 = 0)
torus: To(torus(R=10, r=1, w1=0, w2=360)

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Ronaldo wrote > Nice. My trouble with that kind of function and operators is that the more > flexible they are the more parameter names I have to memorize when I need > them. Yes, I always may consult the code but that is their burden. That is why I implement a help() module in every library. For shortcuts.scad you get the output: > ECHO: " * > shortcuts.scad * > help(): shows this help > help_shortcuts(): shows this help > show_examples(): shows some examples > place_in_rect(): places children objects in grid * > Transformations: * > transform : T(x=0, y=0, z=0), Tx(x=0) , Ty(y=0), Tz(z=0) > rotate : R(x=0, y=0, z=0), Rx(x=0) , Ry(y=0), Rz(z=0) > scale : S(x=1, y=1, z=1), Sx(x=1) , Sy(y=1), Sz(z=1) > Logical > difference : D() > union : U() > intersection : I() * > Useful * > N instances around circle : rotN(r=10, N=4, offs=0, M=undef) > range function [0:1:N] : Rg(N) > color : C(r,b,g,t) or C(string,t) * > Primitives * > circle : Ci(r=10, d=undef) > circle_half : CiH(r=10, w=0, d=undef) > circle_segment : CiS(r=10, w1=0, w2=90, d=undef) > square : Sq(x=10, y=undef, center=true)) > cylinder : Cy(r=10, h=1, center=true, r1=undef, r2=undef, d=undef) > cylinder_half : CyH(r=10, w=0, d=undef) > cylinder_segment: CyS(r=10, h=1, w1=0, w2=90,center=true, d=undef) > cylinder_segment: Pie(r=10, h=1, w1=0, w2=90,center=true, d=undef) > cube : Cu(x=10, y=undef, z=undef, center=true) > ring : Ri(R=10, r=5, h=1, center=true, D=undef, d=undef) > ring_half : RiH(R=10, r=5, h=1, w=0 center=true, D=undef, d=undef) > ring_segment : RiS(R=10, r=5, h=1, w1=0, w2=90, center=true, D=undef, > d=undef) > sphere: Sp(r=10)) > sphere_half: SpH(r=10, w1 = 0, w2 = 0) > torus: To(torus(R=10, r=1, w1=0, w2=360) -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/trouble-making-a-round-flange-with-holes-in-tp20961p20995.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Ronaldo Persiano
Wed, Mar 22, 2017 11:24 PM

2017-03-22 19:24 GMT-03:00 Parkinbot rudolf@parkinbot.com:

That is why I implement a help() module in every library. For
shortcuts.scad
you get the output:

That is a good practice but what do you do when you have several libraries
in <use>, each with its help() ? There is no way to qualify an used
function or module.

2017-03-22 19:24 GMT-03:00 Parkinbot <rudolf@parkinbot.com>: > That is why I implement a help() module in every library. For > shortcuts.scad > you get the output: > That is a good practice but what do you do when you have several libraries in <use>, each with its help() ? There is no way to qualify an used function or module.
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Parkinbot
Thu, Mar 23, 2017 1:59 AM

Ronaldo wrote

That is a good practice but what do you do when you have several libraries
in
<use>
, each with its help() ? There is no way to qualify an used
function or module.

  1. There is a help_/library/() synonym (another naming convention)
  2. You always can include the library you want to call help() latest (yet
    another hack, I know)

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Ronaldo wrote > That is a good practice but what do you do when you have several libraries > in > <use> > , each with its help() ? There is no way to qualify an used > function or module. 1. There is a help_/library/() synonym (another naming convention) 2. You always can include the library you want to call help() latest (yet another hack, I know) -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/trouble-making-a-round-flange-with-holes-in-tp20961p20997.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.