Well, fellow listees, I know some of this has been hashed out before, but
a question or two. We often have guests aboard (sometimes overnight). The
admiral thinks it kosher to suggest they chip in for groceries consumed
and fuel burned.
How does this interface with not having a CG commercial captains
license? (I think its knicknamed "six pack," though I cant recall the
proper acronym.)
Then assuming I decide to go ahead and get the six pack, how many hours
of sea time are required as a prerequisite and how is that
determined/verified? 100 hours seems to stick in my mind. Advice welcome.
David Sorenson
Duluth, MN
Where hard water is accumulating on everything tonight

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technically if they give you a sixpack of Bud you are receiving compensation
and according to the letter of the law should be licensed. But unofficially
the Coast Guard decided a while back they had no intentions of going after
anyone for this kind of action. You would really have to make someone upset to
get bothered for something like this. If you were planning to get a license I
would highly recommend one of the Coast Guard approved Sea Schools. They will
do a thorough job of prepping you for the test and few fail going through one
of these schools. If you have one near you, give them a call and give them
your information regarding time on the water. The qualifications are not cut
and dry. They will tell you if you can apply or how much additional time you
will need. Chuck

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--- On Mon, 2/9/09, David H Sorenson davidsorenson@juno.com wrote:

Well, fellow listees, I know some of this has been hashed out before, but
a question or two. We often have guests aboard (sometimes overnight). The
admiral thinks it kosher to suggest they chip in for groceries consumed
and fuel burned.
How does this interface with not having a CG commercial captains
license? (I think its knicknamed "six pack," though I cant recall the
proper acronym.)
Then assuming I decide to go ahead and get the six pack, how many hours
of sea time are required as a prerequisite and how is that
determined/verified? 100 hours seems to stick in my mind. Advice welcome.
David Sorenson
Duluth, MN

I agree with Troy here - let them fill the tank and bring food.  Whenever we
invite people they always ask what to bring - we are not shy about letting
them know.  Whenever we invirte other boaters they insist and tell us what
they are bringing.

I just completed course work, testing, and compliance requirements last year
for my ticket.  I received a 50 Ton Masters certificate and am fairly fresh on
the requirements.

One item was not mentioned here unless I missed it. Upon receiving my ticket
one of my friends who is also liscenced mention to me that now that I have it
I will be held to a higher standard if anything does happen on the water.
Think long and hard before going through the requirements.  I took the course
work in order to make me a safer individual on the water - and also may earn a
couple bucks after retirement.

Captain Ross
Cynthia Lynne> From: troy994719@hotmail.com> To: davidsorenson@juno.com;
trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 19:20:40
-0600> Subject: Re: T&T: six pack license?> > David> You need to be really
carefull here, having people chip in for groceries and> fuel can get you into
a situation you dont want to be in. They can buy fuel at> the dock and bring
food and drinks to your boat but as soon as they give you> cash they can be
considered paying customers. The USCG has had cases in court> when people have
had passangers give money for fuel and then get hurt and sue> the owner,
claiming they paid to be onboard. If they buy fuel at the fuel dock> or bring
food and drinks aboard this is not paying you like giving you cash. I> know we
all trust our friends but you never know what some people might do.> > The
time needed for an Inland OUPV license is 360 days, a day is defined by 8>
hours underway. You can go back to when you were 15.5 years old and start>
recording time.> Here is a link to the requirments.>
http://www.uscg.mil/nmc/cb_capt.asp> > You will also need to make sure your
boat is up to standard to carry> passangers, one of the biggest is Type I
PFD's at $40 a piece.> > To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> Date:
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The issue as to whether you might be held to a higher standard is a red
herring. If you have a license, the big worry is having the CG trying to
have it revoked or suspended. The only thing that matters is taking
precautions to avoid having an accident.

I won't comment on which definable group worries about the former,
instead of the latter.

Mike

Capt. Mike Maurice
Tigard Oregon(Near Portland)