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Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

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EWKehren@aol.com
Sun, Feb 26, 2012 4:33 PM

Pete
Thanks for the link. Now it explains where they come from and what
condition they are in. Again I like to warn against ggg*fitting that sell Morion
as NEW and did sell FE 5680A as NEW. I did mail my very used sold as NEW
back to them so someone will get it if you continue to buy from them. They
agreed to reimburse me for shipping but as you see below now threaten me if I
do  not give them a positive review.
Look at shipping cost some of it is off the top! It is time to take a
breather and we will se a drop in prices. There is a limited market and we are
at least 50%

"We in the description, indicate the is used.
We have to make the best  possible treatment, a full refund to you, and pay
for shipping costs  $13.17
If you don't change the positive 5 star feedback, we don't pay $13.17  to
you!!
To trouble you, I'm so sorry!"

I will not change my feedback ggg are crooks and they know it. Be
carefully, there are other choices.
Bert Kehren

In a message dated 2/26/2012 1:42:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
bell.peter@gmail.com writes:

I  suspect a lot of the ebay sellers are buying stuff from Taobao and
just  reselling it.  For example, this appears to be the original
source of  the FE-5680As which were supplied with the OCXO and socket
(although he  seems to have run out of OCXOs  now)
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=12204039399 - the price  is
interesting, too - 90 RMB (about $15). Of course, they generally  won't
ship to addresses outside China.

The bit of his website  dealing with oscillators is interesting, too
(in Chinese, but lots of  photos) - I suspect some of the other stuff
being sold on ebay is being  sourced from  him:

http://www.dz98.com/an.htm

Regards,

Pete  Bell

Pete Thanks for the link. Now it explains where they come from and what condition they are in. Again I like to warn against ggg*fitting that sell Morion as NEW and did sell FE 5680A as NEW. I did mail my very used sold as NEW back to them so someone will get it if you continue to buy from them. They agreed to reimburse me for shipping but as you see below now threaten me if I do not give them a positive review. Look at shipping cost some of it is off the top! It is time to take a breather and we will se a drop in prices. There is a limited market and we are at least 50% "We in the description, indicate the is used. We have to make the best possible treatment, a full refund to you, and pay for shipping costs $13.17 If you don't change the positive 5 star feedback, we don't pay $13.17 to you!! To trouble you, I'm so sorry!" I will not change my feedback ggg are crooks and they know it. Be carefully, there are other choices. Bert Kehren In a message dated 2/26/2012 1:42:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, bell.peter@gmail.com writes: I suspect a lot of the ebay sellers are buying stuff from Taobao and just reselling it. For example, this appears to be the original source of the FE-5680As which were supplied with the OCXO and socket (although he seems to have run out of OCXOs now) http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=12204039399 - the price is interesting, too - 90 RMB (about $15). Of course, they generally won't ship to addresses outside China. The bit of his website dealing with oscillators is interesting, too (in Chinese, but lots of photos) - I suspect some of the other stuff being sold on ebay is being sourced from him: http://www.dz98.com/an.htm Regards, Pete Bell
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Magnus Danielson
Sun, Feb 26, 2012 10:22 PM

Hi Bert and all,

Very few occasions items like we talk about is really pristine, I expect
it to be used and only try to judge about how much milage it has. Most
of the dumpster diver level re-circulation folks has low knowledge, and
some excel and actually has a clue, but if only the pictures is their
own and show some reasonable level of degradation and then I judge if I
think there is a fair price or not for what roughly is being provided.

So far I have not been scammed very hard. Most of the stuff has been
within the expected level, but all that comes from makeing a decision of
what to expect and what price is fair for that expectation.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 02/26/2012 05:33 PM, EWKehren@aol.com wrote:

Pete
Thanks for the link. Now it explains where they come from and what
condition they are in. Again I like to warn against ggg*fitting that sell Morion
as NEW and did sell FE 5680A as NEW. I did mail my very used sold as NEW
back to them so someone will get it if you continue to buy from them. They
agreed to reimburse me for shipping but as you see below now threaten me if I
do  not give them a positive review.
Look at shipping cost some of it is off the top! It is time to take a
breather and we will se a drop in prices. There is a limited market and we are
at least 50%

"We in the description, indicate the is used.
We have to make the best  possible treatment, a full refund to you, and pay
for shipping costs  $13.17
If you don't change the positive 5 star feedback, we don't pay $13.17  to
you!!
To trouble you, I'm so sorry!"

I will not change my feedback ggg are crooks and they know it. Be
carefully, there are other choices.
Bert Kehren

In a message dated 2/26/2012 1:42:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
bell.peter@gmail.com writes:

I  suspect a lot of the ebay sellers are buying stuff from Taobao and
just  reselling it.  For example, this appears to be the original
source of  the FE-5680As which were supplied with the OCXO and socket
(although he  seems to have run out of OCXOs  now)
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=12204039399 - the price  is
interesting, too - 90 RMB (about $15). Of course, they generally  won't
ship to addresses outside China.

The bit of his website  dealing with oscillators is interesting, too
(in Chinese, but lots of  photos) - I suspect some of the other stuff
being sold on ebay is being  sourced from  him:

http://www.dz98.com/an.htm

Regards,

Pete  Bell


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Hi Bert and all, Very few occasions items like we talk about is really pristine, I expect it to be used and only try to judge about how much milage it has. Most of the dumpster diver level re-circulation folks has low knowledge, and some excel and actually has a clue, but if only the pictures is their own and show some reasonable level of degradation and then I judge if I think there is a fair price or not for what roughly is being provided. So far I have not been scammed very hard. Most of the stuff has been within the expected level, but all that comes from makeing a decision of what to expect and what price is fair for that expectation. Cheers, Magnus On 02/26/2012 05:33 PM, EWKehren@aol.com wrote: > Pete > Thanks for the link. Now it explains where they come from and what > condition they are in. Again I like to warn against ggg*fitting that sell Morion > as NEW and did sell FE 5680A as NEW. I did mail my very used sold as NEW > back to them so someone will get it if you continue to buy from them. They > agreed to reimburse me for shipping but as you see below now threaten me if I > do not give them a positive review. > Look at shipping cost some of it is off the top! It is time to take a > breather and we will se a drop in prices. There is a limited market and we are > at least 50% > > "We in the description, indicate the is used. > We have to make the best possible treatment, a full refund to you, and pay > for shipping costs $13.17 > If you don't change the positive 5 star feedback, we don't pay $13.17 to > you!! > To trouble you, I'm so sorry!" > > I will not change my feedback ggg are crooks and they know it. Be > carefully, there are other choices. > Bert Kehren > > > > > > In a message dated 2/26/2012 1:42:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > bell.peter@gmail.com writes: > > I suspect a lot of the ebay sellers are buying stuff from Taobao and > just reselling it. For example, this appears to be the original > source of the FE-5680As which were supplied with the OCXO and socket > (although he seems to have run out of OCXOs now) > http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=12204039399 - the price is > interesting, too - 90 RMB (about $15). Of course, they generally won't > ship to addresses outside China. > > The bit of his website dealing with oscillators is interesting, too > (in Chinese, but lots of photos) - I suspect some of the other stuff > being sold on ebay is being sourced from him: > > http://www.dz98.com/an.htm > > Regards, > > Pete Bell > > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
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Chris Albertson
Mon, Feb 27, 2012 4:07 AM

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Magnus Danielson
magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote:

"We in the description, indicate the is used.
We have to make the best  possible treatment, a full refund to you, and
pay
for shipping costs  $13.17
If you don't change the positive 5 star feedback, we don't pay $13.17  to
you!!
To trouble you, I'm so sorry!"

RIGHT AWAY.  Please forward the above to eBay.  They will warn the
seller once, next time his account is closed.  By eBay policy this is
not even in the "grey area" about what sellers are not allowed to do.
You really should as if people don't report this kind of stuff eBay
will get even worse

Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Magnus Danielson <magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org> wrote: >> >> "We in the description, indicate the is used. >> We have to make the best  possible treatment, a full refund to you, and >> pay >> for shipping costs  $13.17 >> If you don't change the positive 5 star feedback, we don't pay $13.17  to >> you!! >> To trouble you, I'm so sorry!" RIGHT AWAY. Please forward the above to eBay. They will warn the seller once, next time his account is closed. By eBay policy this is not even in the "grey area" about what sellers are not allowed to do. You really should as if people don't report this kind of stuff eBay will get even worse Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California