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Re: T&T: FW: Question on RACORS

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Frank Timpano via Trawlers-and-Trawlering
Thu, May 29, 2014 12:51 AM

I installed in-line fuel pump/priming bulbs upstream of my Racors. These are valved in or out of the fuel circuit as needed. In use, you squeeze them like an outboard motor's fuel priming bulb to re-fill the racor housings. This way there is no need to carry an extra container of fuel, and all the fuel going to the engine's final filter must go through the racor's element first.  I replace the filter, install the o-ring and cap, start the Tee Handle, then with the lid just slightly ajar, begin pumping fuel. When it reaches the top of the housing, finish tightening the Tee handle. Done. My cummins never miss a beat after this exercise. You can buy the kits to install these in line priming pumps from seaboard marine (sbmar.com). These guys are the diesel (esp cummins) gurus.

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From: Stan Nackdymon via Trawlers-and-Trawlering trawlers@lists.trawlering.com
Sent: May 28, 2014 5:28 PM
To: trawlers@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: T&T: FW: Question on RACORS

Shut of the pet cocks to the engine and refill the filter from the top, to
the top. That should keep fuel in the lines to the engine.

I installed in-line fuel pump/priming bulbs upstream of my Racors. These are valved in or out of the fuel circuit as needed. In use, you squeeze them like an outboard motor's fuel priming bulb to re-fill the racor housings. This way there is no need to carry an extra container of fuel, and all the fuel going to the engine's final filter must go through the racor's element first. I replace the filter, install the o-ring and cap, start the Tee Handle, then with the lid just slightly ajar, begin pumping fuel. When it reaches the top of the housing, finish tightening the Tee handle. Done. My cummins never miss a beat after this exercise. You can buy the kits to install these in line priming pumps from seaboard marine (sbmar.com). These guys are the diesel (esp cummins) gurus. -----Original Message----- >From: Stan Nackdymon via Trawlers-and-Trawlering <trawlers@lists.trawlering.com> >Sent: May 28, 2014 5:28 PM >To: trawlers@lists.trawlering.com >Subject: T&T: FW: Question on RACORS > >Shut of the pet cocks to the engine and refill the filter from the top, to >the top. That should keep fuel in the lines to the engine. >
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Stan Nackdymon via Trawlers-and-Trawlering
Thu, May 29, 2014 7:57 AM

How can you suck fuel through the racor if the pump is upstream of the filter and the housing lid is cracked open.  Seems like you'd only be sucking air.

Stan

How can you suck fuel through the racor if the pump is upstream of the filter and the housing lid is cracked open. Seems like you'd only be sucking air. Stan
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Frank Timpano via Trawlers-and-Trawlering
Fri, May 30, 2014 1:16 AM

Upstream, that is, before the filter. Between the tank and the filter.
You are pumping fuel from the tank INTO the filter.

On 5/29/2014 3:57 AM, Stan Nackdymon via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote:

How can you suck fuel through the racor if the pump is upstream of the filter and the housing lid is cracked open.  Seems like you'd only be sucking air.

Stan

Upstream, that is, before the filter. Between the tank and the filter. You are pumping fuel from the tank INTO the filter. On 5/29/2014 3:57 AM, Stan Nackdymon via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote: > How can you suck fuel through the racor if the pump is upstream of the filter and the housing lid is cracked open. Seems like you'd only be sucking air. > > Stan > >
RV
rt via Trawlers-and-Trawlering
Fri, May 30, 2014 1:35 AM

It is generally recommended that pump be installed after the fuel filter and that the pump pull fuel through the filter rather than push it.

It is my understanding that placing the pump before the filter can emulsify fuel/water and reduce the effectiveness of the water separator.

Randy Thompson
M/V Soul Tender

Sent from my iPhone

On May 29, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Frank Timpano via Trawlers-and-Trawlering trawlers@lists.trawlering.com wrote:

Upstream, that is, before the filter. Between the tank and the filter. You are pumping fuel from the tank INTO the filter.

It is generally recommended that pump be installed after the fuel filter and that the pump pull fuel through the filter rather than push it. It is my understanding that placing the pump before the filter can emulsify fuel/water and reduce the effectiveness of the water separator. Randy Thompson M/V Soul Tender Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Frank Timpano via Trawlers-and-Trawlering <trawlers@lists.trawlering.com> wrote: > > Upstream, that is, before the filter. Between the tank and the filter. You are pumping fuel from the tank INTO the filter.
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Frank Timpano via Trawlers-and-Trawlering
Sat, May 31, 2014 1:30 AM

It's a squeeze bulb. I hardly imagine it will emulsify fuel and water.
Besides, as already pointed out, if it's after the filter it will be
useless to prime the filter housing.

On 5/29/2014 9:35 PM, rt wrote:

It is generally recommended that pump be installed after the fuel filter and that the pump pull fuel through the filter rather than push it.

It is my understanding that placing the pump before the filter can emulsify fuel/water and reduce the effectiveness of the water separator.

Randy Thompson
M/V Soul Tender

Sent from my iPhone

On May 29, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Frank Timpano via Trawlers-and-Trawlering trawlers@lists.trawlering.com wrote:

Upstream, that is, before the filter. Between the tank and the filter. You are pumping fuel from the tank INTO the filter.

It's a squeeze bulb. I hardly imagine it will emulsify fuel and water. Besides, as already pointed out, if it's after the filter it will be useless to prime the filter housing. On 5/29/2014 9:35 PM, rt wrote: > It is generally recommended that pump be installed after the fuel filter and that the pump pull fuel through the filter rather than push it. > > It is my understanding that placing the pump before the filter can emulsify fuel/water and reduce the effectiveness of the water separator. > > Randy Thompson > M/V Soul Tender > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 29, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Frank Timpano via Trawlers-and-Trawlering <trawlers@lists.trawlering.com> wrote: >> >> Upstream, that is, before the filter. Between the tank and the filter. You are pumping fuel from the tank INTO the filter.
RV
rt via Trawlers-and-Trawlering
Sat, May 31, 2014 1:34 AM

True enuf, my misunderstanding. All I saw was the word pump.

Randy
M/V Soul Tender

On May 30, 2014, at 9:30 PM, Frank Timpano ftimpano@infionline.net wrote:

It's a squeeze bulb. I hardly imagine it will emulsify fuel and water. Besides, as already pointed out, if it's after the filter it will be useless to prime the filter housing.

On 5/29/2014 9:35 PM, rt wrote:
It is generally recommended that pump be installed after the fuel filter and that the pump pull fuel through the filter rather than push it.

It is my understanding that placing the pump before the filter can emulsify fuel/water and reduce the effectiveness of the water separator.

Randy Thompson
M/V Soul Tender

Sent from my iPhone

On May 29, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Frank Timpano via Trawlers-and-Trawlering trawlers@lists.trawlering.com wrote:

Upstream, that is, before the filter. Between the tank and the filter. You are pumping fuel from the tank INTO the filter.

True enuf, my misunderstanding. All I saw was the word pump. Randy M/V Soul Tender > On May 30, 2014, at 9:30 PM, Frank Timpano <ftimpano@infionline.net> wrote: > > It's a squeeze bulb. I hardly imagine it will emulsify fuel and water. Besides, as already pointed out, if it's after the filter it will be useless to prime the filter housing. > >> On 5/29/2014 9:35 PM, rt wrote: >> It is generally recommended that pump be installed after the fuel filter and that the pump pull fuel through the filter rather than push it. >> >> It is my understanding that placing the pump before the filter can emulsify fuel/water and reduce the effectiveness of the water separator. >> >> Randy Thompson >> M/V Soul Tender >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 29, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Frank Timpano via Trawlers-and-Trawlering <trawlers@lists.trawlering.com> wrote: >>> >>> Upstream, that is, before the filter. Between the tank and the filter. You are pumping fuel from the tank INTO the filter. > >