So, If I'm interpreting the pictures correctly, It appears the hot wire ionizer wire is spring loaded. It would probably take a significant impact to spring that back enough for the wire to weld back with any sort of discharge. It may be possible, but most likely not very easy to do. Although these pictures give an indication of what direction one would have to try hit it... Dan On 11/9/2019 12:00 PM, time-nuts-request@lists.febo.com wrote: > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 17:25:55 -0500 > From: paul swed<paulswedb@gmail.com> > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Dead 5061B > Message-ID: > <CAD2JfAhDF1ntJue3313+qMKhdrx2jY0bGFvb87q0nq8os1CgLA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hello to the group. > A few years back Skip took apart a 5061 CS tube. Took the best pictures > with detail that has ever been posted. I really learned about the internal > details from his effort. > Tom kindly found the links re-posted here. > > http://lists.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts_lists.febo.com/2016-October/083806.html > > The entire thread is interesting: > > http://lists.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts_lists.febo.com/2016-October/date.html#end > > In a off thread email we discussed the possibility of reattaching the > ionizer. Please look at the ionizer picture and you will see why that will > not work. Unlike a classic light bulb with tight coils of filament and > droop for expansion and contraction the ionizer is a straight tight ribbon. > When it pops material gets vaporized or simply falls away. There is no > material to by chance reattach. > > Granted there is nothing to lose by tinkering around its dead and in > reality thats what a Time-nut does. > > The very best of luck to you Jim and though your CS may be dead its been > great to read others help and guidance. > > Regards > > Paul > > WB8TSL

Hi For less than the price of a brand new tube, you can take it over and get it run through a 3D X-Ray setup. Not cheap, but then you will *know* what’s what in this specific tube. Last time I got into doing that sort of thing it was way more expensive than what I would spend in this case. Bob > On Nov 11, 2019, at 11:20 AM, Dan Kemppainen <dan@irtelemetrics.com> wrote: > > So, > > If I'm interpreting the pictures correctly, It appears the hot wire ionizer wire is spring loaded. It would probably take a significant impact to spring that back enough for the wire to weld back with any sort of discharge. > > It may be possible, but most likely not very easy to do. Although these pictures give an indication of what direction one would have to try hit it... > > Dan > > > On 11/9/2019 12:00 PM, time-nuts-request@lists.febo.com wrote: >> Message: 7 >> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 17:25:55 -0500 >> From: paul swed<paulswedb@gmail.com> >> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement >> <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Dead 5061B >> Message-ID: >> <CAD2JfAhDF1ntJue3313+qMKhdrx2jY0bGFvb87q0nq8os1CgLA@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> Hello to the group. >> A few years back Skip took apart a 5061 CS tube. Took the best pictures >> with detail that has ever been posted. I really learned about the internal >> details from his effort. >> Tom kindly found the links re-posted here. >> http://lists.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts_lists.febo.com/2016-October/083806.html >> The entire thread is interesting: >> http://lists.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts_lists.febo.com/2016-October/date.html#end >> In a off thread email we discussed the possibility of reattaching the >> ionizer. Please look at the ionizer picture and you will see why that will >> not work. Unlike a classic light bulb with tight coils of filament and >> droop for expansion and contraction the ionizer is a straight tight ribbon. >> When it pops material gets vaporized or simply falls away. There is no >> material to by chance reattach. >> Granted there is nothing to lose by tinkering around its dead and in >> reality thats what a Time-nut does. >> The very best of luck to you Jim and though your CS may be dead its been >> great to read others help and guidance. >> Regards >> Paul >> WB8TSL > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there.

Hi Dan at least the pictures I have seen are that the ionizer is a thin ribbon. I have not seen a filament style ionizer for cesium beam tubes. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 11:16 PM Dan Kemppainen <dan@irtelemetrics.com> wrote: > So, > > If I'm interpreting the pictures correctly, It appears the hot wire > ionizer wire is spring loaded. It would probably take a significant > impact to spring that back enough for the wire to weld back with any > sort of discharge. > > It may be possible, but most likely not very easy to do. Although these > pictures give an indication of what direction one would have to try hit > it... > > Dan > > > On 11/9/2019 12:00 PM, time-nuts-request@lists.febo.com wrote: > > Message: 7 > > Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 17:25:55 -0500 > > From: paul swed<paulswedb@gmail.com> > > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > > <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> > > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Dead 5061B > > Message-ID: > > < > CAD2JfAhDF1ntJue3313+qMKhdrx2jY0bGFvb87q0nq8os1CgLA@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > Hello to the group. > > A few years back Skip took apart a 5061 CS tube. Took the best pictures > > with detail that has ever been posted. I really learned about the > internal > > details from his effort. > > Tom kindly found the links re-posted here. > > > > > http://lists.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts_lists.febo.com/2016-October/083806.html > > > > The entire thread is interesting: > > > > > http://lists.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts_lists.febo.com/2016-October/date.html#end > > > > In a off thread email we discussed the possibility of reattaching the > > ionizer. Please look at the ionizer picture and you will see why that > will > > not work. Unlike a classic light bulb with tight coils of filament and > > droop for expansion and contraction the ionizer is a straight tight > ribbon. > > When it pops material gets vaporized or simply falls away. There is no > > material to by chance reattach. > > > > Granted there is nothing to lose by tinkering around its dead and in > > reality thats what a Time-nut does. > > > > The very best of luck to you Jim and though your CS may be dead its been > > great to read others help and guidance. > > > > Regards > > > > Paul > > > > WB8TSL > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. >