Hi Kevin, I tried this (am a Consultant) but on Windows 10 Enterprise, and
it had no effect. That's OK though because I am sick of the cr@p MS and
other companies are pulling with these platforms (even though it feeds
me:-).
I'll be implementing the PPS guidance that Canonical has documented for
20.04 tonight.
Russ
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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 17:28:53 +0000
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Subject: [time-nuts] Re: Replacement of Windows NTP server with Linux
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
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Russ,
You could have also just run gpedit.msc (group policy editor) to turn
off the updates/reboots in windows 10.
It comes standard on pro but can be added to home also I believe.
Kevin
Several comments along this line.
I have also attempted a number of ways to stop the enforced reboots and
upgrades in win 10.
I do know win 10 embedded/IOT does allow you to shut upgrades off. But
getting an embedded license seems challenging in 1 or 2 units. As far as I
can tell embedded is pretty much full win 10 with a bit more control.
But all that said this threads has been really good with respect to a small
ntp server for the home. Almost enough to twist my arm into a linux
implementation.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 11:28 AM Russ Ramirez russ.ramirez@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Kevin, I tried this (am a Consultant) but on Windows 10 Enterprise, and
it had no effect. That's OK though because I am sick of the cr@p MS and
other companies are pulling with these platforms (even though it feeds
me:-).
I'll be implementing the PPS guidance that Canonical has documented for
20.04 tonight.
Russ
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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 17:28:53 +0000
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Subject: [time-nuts] Re: Replacement of Windows NTP server with Linux
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
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Russ,
You could have also just run gpedit.msc (group policy editor) to turn
off the updates/reboots in windows 10.
It comes standard on pro but can be added to home also I believe.
Kevin
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To disable Windows Updates on a workgroup Windows.
Start > Run > gpedit.msc
Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components
Windows Update
Open Configure Automatic Updates
Select Disabled, then OK to close
To block feature releases (1803/1909/20h4 etc.) requires editing the
registry directly.
Other methods to prevent Windows Updates include running on an
isolated VLAN/Subnet etc.
I would however suggest that three raspberry Pi4 each with GPS/GPSDO
using PPS over GPIO would consume less power, and have greater overall
stability.
Cheers
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 4:47 PM paul swed paulswedb@gmail.com wrote:
Several comments along this line.
I have also attempted a number of ways to stop the enforced reboots and
upgrades in win 10.
I do know win 10 embedded/IOT does allow you to shut upgrades off. But
getting an embedded license seems challenging in 1 or 2 units. As far as I
can tell embedded is pretty much full win 10 with a bit more control.
But all that said this threads has been really good with respect to a small
ntp server for the home. Almost enough to twist my arm into a linux
implementation.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 11:28 AM Russ Ramirez russ.ramirez@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Kevin, I tried this (am a Consultant) but on Windows 10 Enterprise, and
it had no effect. That's OK though because I am sick of the cr@p MS and
other companies are pulling with these platforms (even though it feeds
me:-).I'll be implementing the PPS guidance that Canonical has documented for
20.04 tonight.Russ
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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 17:28:53 +0000
From: Kevin Schuchmann kschuchmann@protonmail.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Re: Replacement of Windows NTP server with Linux
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
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Russ,
You could have also just run gpedit.msc (group policy editor) to turn
off the updates/reboots in windows 10.
It comes standard on pro but can be added to home also I believe.Kevin
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Thanks for that info (below) about Win 10 turning off auto updates.
I think I got gpedit installed on my Win 10 Home and have made these
changes. Nice.
Does anyone know if there is a way to get Win 10 to stop nagging me
about creating/fixing a Microsoft account? -- "Microsoft account
problem -- we need to fix..."
I don't want an account. To paraphrase an old movie -- Accounts... we
ain't got no accounts. We don't need no stinking accounts.
BTW My one Win 10 PC is dual boot with Linux Mint.
On 4/14/2021 12:10 PM, shouldbe q931 wrote:
To disable Windows Updates on a workgroup Windows.
Start > Run > gpedit.msc
Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components
Windows Update
Open Configure Automatic Updates
Select Disabled, then OK to close
To block feature releases (1803/1909/20h4 etc.) requires editing the
registry directly.
Other methods to prevent Windows Updates include running on an
isolated VLAN/Subnet etc.
I would however suggest that three raspberry Pi4 each with GPS/GPSDO
using PPS over GPIO would consume less power, and have greater overall
stability.
Cheers
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 4:47 PM paul swed paulswedb@gmail.com wrote:
Several comments along this line.
I have also attempted a number of ways to stop the enforced reboots and
upgrades in win 10.
I do know win 10 embedded/IOT does allow you to shut upgrades off. But
getting an embedded license seems challenging in 1 or 2 units. As far as I
can tell embedded is pretty much full win 10 with a bit more control.
But all that said this threads has been really good with respect to a small
ntp server for the home. Almost enough to twist my arm into a linux
implementation.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 11:28 AM Russ Ramirez russ.ramirez@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Kevin, I tried this (am a Consultant) but on Windows 10 Enterprise, and
it had no effect. That's OK though because I am sick of the cr@p MS and
other companies are pulling with these platforms (even though it feeds
me:-).
I'll be implementing the PPS guidance that Canonical has documented for
20.04 tonight.
Russ
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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 17:28:53 +0000
From: Kevin Schuchmann kschuchmann@protonmail.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Re: Replacement of Windows NTP server with Linux
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
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Russ,
You could have also just run gpedit.msc (group policy editor) to turn
off the updates/reboots in windows 10.
It comes standard on pro but can be added to home also I believe.
Kevin
Am 15.04.21 um 10:12 schrieb Rex:
Thanks for that info (below) about Win 10 turning off auto updates.
I think I got gpedit installed on my Win 10 Home and have made these
changes. Nice.
Does anyone know if there is a way to get Win 10 to stop nagging me
about creating/fixing a Microsoft account? -- "Microsoft account
problem -- we need to fix..."
I don't want an account. To paraphrase an old movie -- Accounts... we
ain't got no accounts. We don't need no stinking accounts.
BTW My one Win 10 PC is dual boot with Linux Mint.
I did read from converging sources that this here:
https://udse.de/reboot-blocker/
is the only solution that really works. I did not test it. Web site is
German only.
I no more give WIn-? control over an entire hardware machine.
I run Win in a VMware virtual machine on top of Linux Mint. The network
of the VM ends at the host computer, so even Win7 is never exposed
to the bad, bad world.
Every other week I give WIN10 internet access after saving a copy of
the virtual machine. Then it can pull updates and reboot as often as it
likes.
Allowing/denying internet access is just two mouse clicks on VMware.
No more phoning home.
VMware is transparent for USB2/3. Even the Xilinx FPGA dongle works,
and the DG8SAQ network analyzer which has some real time requirements.
The no-cost VMware player is enough.
Gerhard
There's what I like to call a "Windows 10 De-F**ker" script, called
TronScript. It goes through and locks out all of Microsoft's bloatware.
https://www.danodemano.com/Tron/
The website looks a little phishy, but I use the script on every win10
machine I can get my hands on. There's a "Subreddit" dedicated to it, at
https://reddit.com/r/tronscript - if you're a redditor.
Feel free to email me off-list (or on-list) if you have any questions. Time
may not be my daily specialty, but this is.
Thanks,
Eamonn Nugent
Cloud Architect, MachineSP - https://machinesp.com
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 4:56 AM Gerhard Hoffmann <
ghf@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de> wrote:
Am 15.04.21 um 10:12 schrieb Rex:
Thanks for that info (below) about Win 10 turning off auto updates.
I think I got gpedit installed on my Win 10 Home and have made these
changes. Nice.
Does anyone know if there is a way to get Win 10 to stop nagging me
about creating/fixing a Microsoft account? -- "Microsoft account
problem -- we need to fix..."
I don't want an account. To paraphrase an old movie -- Accounts... we
ain't got no accounts. We don't need no stinking accounts.
BTW My one Win 10 PC is dual boot with Linux Mint.
I did read from converging sources that this here:
https://udse.de/reboot-blocker/
is the only solution that really works. I did not test it. Web site is
German only.
I no more give WIn-? control over an entire hardware machine.
I run Win in a VMware virtual machine on top of Linux Mint. The network
of the VM ends at the host computer, so even Win7 is never exposed
to the bad, bad world.
Every other week I give WIN10 internet access after saving a copy of
the virtual machine. Then it can pull updates and reboot as often as it
likes.
Allowing/denying internet access is just two mouse clicks on VMware.
No more phoning home.
VMware is transparent for USB2/3. Even the Xilinx FPGA dongle works,
and the DG8SAQ network analyzer which has some real time requirements.
The no-cost VMware player is enough.
Gerhard
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