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modules with multiple bands, 1pps, etc

LJ
Lux, Jim
Thu, Jul 27, 2023 10:48 PM

I've been looking at the variety of uBlox receivers for a project at
work, where I want multiple bands and a 1 pps to compare against a local
oscillator.

Are there other brands of these that I should be looking at? I'm not to
the point of writing down specs, more figuring out "what's available".

The receiver will be moving (slowly) so a "timing" receiver might not be
the best, although we're planning on doing more than one experiment.

Ultimately, it's to kind of duplicate what we're doing with SunRISE -
receive GNSS and HF signals, time tag them, and then post process.

But cheaper and terrestrial - no million dollar satellites for this one :)

On a similar note we've also got some student project folks using
SDRplay receivers (no GPS) - a whole bunch of high schools
(internationally) are participating in a overall radio astronomy
outreach.  BUT, if someone has used inexpensive SDRs with a GNSS module,
I'd be interested to hear about it.

https://sunrise.umich.edu/ground-radio-lab/

I've been looking at the variety of uBlox receivers for a project at work, where I want multiple bands and a 1 pps to compare against a local oscillator. Are there other brands of these that I should be looking at? I'm not to the point of writing down specs, more figuring out "what's available". The receiver will be moving (slowly) so a "timing" receiver might not be the best, although we're planning on doing more than one experiment. Ultimately, it's to kind of duplicate what we're doing with SunRISE - receive GNSS and HF signals, time tag them, and then post process. But cheaper and terrestrial - no million dollar satellites for this one :) On a similar note we've also got some student project folks using SDRplay receivers (no GPS) - a whole bunch of high schools (internationally) are participating in a overall radio astronomy outreach.  BUT, if someone has used inexpensive SDRs with a GNSS module, I'd be interested to hear about it. https://sunrise.umich.edu/ground-radio-lab/
EM
Ed Marciniak
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 5:55 AM

I haven’t (yet) used them, but Navsparq offers some interesting receivers as modules or breakout boards at very reasonable prices.


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Subject: [time-nuts] modules with multiple bands, 1pps, etc

I've been looking at the variety of uBlox receivers for a project at
work, where I want multiple bands and a 1 pps to compare against a local
oscillator.

Are there other brands of these that I should be looking at? I'm not to
the point of writing down specs, more figuring out "what's available".

The receiver will be moving (slowly) so a "timing" receiver might not be
the best, although we're planning on doing more than one experiment.

Ultimately, it's to kind of duplicate what we're doing with SunRISE -
receive GNSS and HF signals, time tag them, and then post process.

But cheaper and terrestrial - no million dollar satellites for this one :)

On a similar note we've also got some student project folks using
SDRplay receivers (no GPS) - a whole bunch of high schools
(internationally) are participating in a overall radio astronomy
outreach.  BUT, if someone has used inexpensive SDRs with a GNSS module,
I'd be interested to hear about it.

https://sunrise.umich.edu/ground-radio-lab/


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I haven’t (yet) used them, but Navsparq offers some interesting receivers as modules or breakout boards at very reasonable prices. ________________________________ From: Lux, Jim via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2023 5:48:45 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> Cc: Lux, Jim <jim@luxfamily.com> Subject: [time-nuts] modules with multiple bands, 1pps, etc I've been looking at the variety of uBlox receivers for a project at work, where I want multiple bands and a 1 pps to compare against a local oscillator. Are there other brands of these that I should be looking at? I'm not to the point of writing down specs, more figuring out "what's available". The receiver will be moving (slowly) so a "timing" receiver might not be the best, although we're planning on doing more than one experiment. Ultimately, it's to kind of duplicate what we're doing with SunRISE - receive GNSS and HF signals, time tag them, and then post process. But cheaper and terrestrial - no million dollar satellites for this one :) On a similar note we've also got some student project folks using SDRplay receivers (no GPS) - a whole bunch of high schools (internationally) are participating in a overall radio astronomy outreach. BUT, if someone has used inexpensive SDRs with a GNSS module, I'd be interested to hear about it. https://sunrise.umich.edu/ground-radio-lab/ _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com
MD
Magnus Danielson
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 10:02 AM

Have you considered the Mosaic-T/X5?

Very capable and you can feed it a 10 MHz from a reference.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 2023-07-28 00:48, Lux, Jim via time-nuts wrote:

I've been looking at the variety of uBlox receivers for a project at
work, where I want multiple bands and a 1 pps to compare against a
local oscillator.

Are there other brands of these that I should be looking at? I'm not
to the point of writing down specs, more figuring out "what's available".

The receiver will be moving (slowly) so a "timing" receiver might not
be the best, although we're planning on doing more than one experiment.

Ultimately, it's to kind of duplicate what we're doing with SunRISE -
receive GNSS and HF signals, time tag them, and then post process.

But cheaper and terrestrial - no million dollar satellites for this
one :)

On a similar note we've also got some student project folks using
SDRplay receivers (no GPS) - a whole bunch of high schools
(internationally) are participating in a overall radio astronomy
outreach.  BUT, if someone has used inexpensive SDRs with a GNSS
module, I'd be interested to hear about it.

https://sunrise.umich.edu/ground-radio-lab/


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Have you considered the Mosaic-T/X5? Very capable and you can feed it a 10 MHz from a reference. Cheers, Magnus On 2023-07-28 00:48, Lux, Jim via time-nuts wrote: > I've been looking at the variety of uBlox receivers for a project at > work, where I want multiple bands and a 1 pps to compare against a > local oscillator. > > Are there other brands of these that I should be looking at? I'm not > to the point of writing down specs, more figuring out "what's available". > > The receiver will be moving (slowly) so a "timing" receiver might not > be the best, although we're planning on doing more than one experiment. > > Ultimately, it's to kind of duplicate what we're doing with SunRISE - > receive GNSS and HF signals, time tag them, and then post process. > > But cheaper and terrestrial - no million dollar satellites for this > one :) > > On a similar note we've also got some student project folks using > SDRplay receivers (no GPS) - a whole bunch of high schools > (internationally) are participating in a overall radio astronomy > outreach.  BUT, if someone has used inexpensive SDRs with a GNSS > module, I'd be interested to hear about it. > > https://sunrise.umich.edu/ground-radio-lab/ > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com
BC
Bob Camp
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 12:40 PM

Hi

I went back to get a spare Mosaic-T recently and ran into a bit of an
issue. They now are getting serious about “we don’t sell to individuals”.
Early on, this didn’t seem to be a big deal. On the last order it very much
was.

Bob

On Jul 28, 2023, at 6:02 AM, Magnus Danielson via time-nuts time-nuts@lists.febo.com wrote:

Have you considered the Mosaic-T/X5?

Very capable and you can feed it a 10 MHz from a reference.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 2023-07-28 00:48, Lux, Jim via time-nuts wrote:

I've been looking at the variety of uBlox receivers for a project at work, where I want multiple bands and a 1 pps to compare against a local oscillator.

Are there other brands of these that I should be looking at? I'm not to the point of writing down specs, more figuring out "what's available".

The receiver will be moving (slowly) so a "timing" receiver might not be the best, although we're planning on doing more than one experiment.

Ultimately, it's to kind of duplicate what we're doing with SunRISE - receive GNSS and HF signals, time tag them, and then post process.

But cheaper and terrestrial - no million dollar satellites for this one :)

On a similar note we've also got some student project folks using SDRplay receivers (no GPS) - a whole bunch of high schools (internationally) are participating in a overall radio astronomy outreach.  BUT, if someone has used inexpensive SDRs with a GNSS module, I'd be interested to hear about it.

https://sunrise.umich.edu/ground-radio-lab/


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Hi I went back to get a spare Mosaic-T recently and ran into a bit of an issue. They now are getting serious about “we don’t sell to individuals”. Early on, this didn’t seem to be a big deal. On the last order it very much was. Bob > On Jul 28, 2023, at 6:02 AM, Magnus Danielson via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > Have you considered the Mosaic-T/X5? > > Very capable and you can feed it a 10 MHz from a reference. > > Cheers, > Magnus > > On 2023-07-28 00:48, Lux, Jim via time-nuts wrote: >> I've been looking at the variety of uBlox receivers for a project at work, where I want multiple bands and a 1 pps to compare against a local oscillator. >> >> Are there other brands of these that I should be looking at? I'm not to the point of writing down specs, more figuring out "what's available". >> >> The receiver will be moving (slowly) so a "timing" receiver might not be the best, although we're planning on doing more than one experiment. >> >> Ultimately, it's to kind of duplicate what we're doing with SunRISE - receive GNSS and HF signals, time tag them, and then post process. >> >> But cheaper and terrestrial - no million dollar satellites for this one :) >> >> On a similar note we've also got some student project folks using SDRplay receivers (no GPS) - a whole bunch of high schools (internationally) are participating in a overall radio astronomy outreach. BUT, if someone has used inexpensive SDRs with a GNSS module, I'd be interested to hear about it. >> >> https://sunrise.umich.edu/ground-radio-lab/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com
LJ
Lux, Jim
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 3:40 PM

On 7/28/23 5:40 AM, Bob Camp via time-nuts wrote:

Hi

I went back to get a spare Mosaic-T recently and ran into a bit of an
issue. They now are getting serious about “we don’t sell to individuals”.
Early on, this didn’t seem to be a big deal. On the last order it very much
was.

Bob

Well, this would be selling to JPL, about 5500 of us here, so not
exactly an individual.

:)

On 7/28/23 5:40 AM, Bob Camp via time-nuts wrote: > Hi > > I went back to get a spare Mosaic-T recently and ran into a bit of an > issue. They now are getting serious about “we don’t sell to individuals”. > Early on, this didn’t seem to be a big deal. On the last order it very much > was. > > Bob Well, this would be selling to JPL, about 5500 of us here, so not exactly an individual. :)
BC
Bob Camp
Fri, Jul 28, 2023 5:23 PM

Hi

I’ve seen these programs work various ways.

In one model the “central office” buys things and ships them out. In the other
model each  local “team” is responsible for sourcing their parts.

Things like software might done with one model (free from central office with
a limited license ) and hardware might done another way.

Lots of variables.

Bob

On Jul 28, 2023, at 11:40 AM, Lux, Jim via time-nuts time-nuts@lists.febo.com wrote:

On 7/28/23 5:40 AM, Bob Camp via time-nuts wrote:

Hi

I went back to get a spare Mosaic-T recently and ran into a bit of an
issue. They now are getting serious about “we don’t sell to individuals”.
Early on, this didn’t seem to be a big deal. On the last order it very much
was.

Bob

Well, this would be selling to JPL, about 5500 of us here, so not exactly an individual.

:)


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Hi I’ve seen these programs work various ways. In one model the “central office” buys things and ships them out. In the other model each local “team” is responsible for sourcing their parts. Things like software might done with one model (free from central office with a limited license ) and hardware might done another way. Lots of variables. Bob > On Jul 28, 2023, at 11:40 AM, Lux, Jim via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > On 7/28/23 5:40 AM, Bob Camp via time-nuts wrote: >> Hi >> >> I went back to get a spare Mosaic-T recently and ran into a bit of an >> issue. They now are getting serious about “we don’t sell to individuals”. >> Early on, this didn’t seem to be a big deal. On the last order it very much >> was. >> >> Bob > > > Well, this would be selling to JPL, about 5500 of us here, so not exactly an individual. > > :) > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com