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Lucent KS-24361

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Bob Stewart
Wed, Sep 13, 2023 11:16 PM

Some years ago a bunch of us bought a number of these Lucent KS-24361 unit pairs.  Mine has been in storage till now, and I'm trying to bring it back up using old notes.  So far I'm not getting anywhere and I was wondering if these things have maybe fallen foul of the 1024-week GPS bug?  Anyone know?  I guess my next step is to get the comms to it working regardless.

Bob

Some years ago a bunch of us bought a number of these Lucent KS-24361 unit pairs.  Mine has been in storage till now, and I'm trying to bring it back up using old notes.  So far I'm not getting anywhere and I was wondering if these things have maybe fallen foul of the 1024-week GPS bug?  Anyone know?  I guess my next step is to get the comms to it working regardless. Bob
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Bob Camp
Thu, Sep 14, 2023 12:31 AM

Hi

The 1024 week nonsense should simply make it put out a weird date. Otherwise
the the device (whatever it is) should be able to run just fine.

Bob

On Sep 13, 2023, at 7:16 PM, Bob Stewart via time-nuts time-nuts@lists.febo.com wrote:

Some years ago a bunch of us bought a number of these Lucent KS-24361 unit pairs.  Mine has been in storage till now, and I'm trying to bring it back up using old notes.  So far I'm not getting anywhere and I was wondering if these things have maybe fallen foul of the 1024-week GPS bug?  Anyone know?  I guess my next step is to get the comms to it working regardless.

Bob


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Hi The 1024 week nonsense should simply make it put out a weird date. Otherwise the the device (whatever it is) should be able to run just fine. Bob > On Sep 13, 2023, at 7:16 PM, Bob Stewart via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > Some years ago a bunch of us bought a number of these Lucent KS-24361 unit pairs. Mine has been in storage till now, and I'm trying to bring it back up using old notes. So far I'm not getting anywhere and I was wondering if these things have maybe fallen foul of the 1024-week GPS bug? Anyone know? I guess my next step is to get the comms to it working regardless. > > Bob > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com
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Don R
Thu, Sep 14, 2023 1:00 AM

Here is a blog covering the Ref 0 and Ref 1 units using the assist of
an Arduino to make them work.

standaloneREF0.jpg
[1]Standalone Operation of the Lucent KS-24361 REF-0 Unit
[2]syncchannel.blogspot.com
Don Resor
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 On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:35 PM, Bob Stewart via time-nuts
 <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:

Some years ago a bunch of us bought a number of these Lucent KS-24361
unit pairs.  Mine has been in storage till now, and I'm trying to bring
it back up using old notes.  So far I'm not getting anywhere and I was
wondering if these things have maybe fallen foul of the 1024-week GPS
bug?  Anyone know?  I guess my next step is to get the comms to it
working regardless.
Bob


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Here is a blog covering the Ref 0 and Ref 1 units using the assist of an Arduino to make them work. standaloneREF0.jpg [1]Standalone Operation of the Lucent KS-24361 REF-0 Unit [2]syncchannel.blogspot.com Don Resor Sent from someone's iPhone On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:35 PM, Bob Stewart via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: Some years ago a bunch of us bought a number of these Lucent KS-24361 unit pairs. Mine has been in storage till now, and I'm trying to bring it back up using old notes. So far I'm not getting anywhere and I was wondering if these things have maybe fallen foul of the 1024-week GPS bug? Anyone know? I guess my next step is to get the comms to it working regardless. Bob _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com References Visible links: 1. https://syncchannel.blogspot.com/2015/08/standalone-operation-of-lucent-ks-24361.html?m=1 2. https://syncchannel.blogspot.com/2015/08/standalone-operation-of-lucent-ks-24361.html?m=1 Hidden links: 4. https://syncchannel.blogspot.com/2015/08/standalone-operation-of-lucent-ks-24361.html?m=1
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alan bain
Thu, Sep 14, 2023 8:18 AM

Alan

On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 at 00:34, Bob Stewart via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:

Some years ago a bunch of us bought a number of these Lucent KS-24361 unit
pairs.  Mine has been in storage till now, and I'm trying to bring it back
up using old notes.  So far I'm not getting anywhere and I was wondering if
these things have maybe fallen foul of the 1024-week GPS bug?  Anyone
know?  I guess my next step is to get the comms to it working regardless.

I’ve got one working fine thanks to assistance received here! You do need
to tell it current date and time over the SCPI interface to sort the 1024-
state, but while remaining powered up it should be fine. I added a battery
backup to the Oncore board to speed up startup in future after a power down.

I found it helpful to get the oncore board functioning on its own first
(you simply need a psu and rs232 to ttl adaptor). The winoncore software
still worked on win11 (found I think on KO4BB).

There are potential tantalum capacitor issues - and they may cause
collateral damage. I had to replace one and a transistor which had
self-decapped.

Alan

Bob


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Alan On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 at 00:34, Bob Stewart via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Some years ago a bunch of us bought a number of these Lucent KS-24361 unit > pairs. Mine has been in storage till now, and I'm trying to bring it back > up using old notes. So far I'm not getting anywhere and I was wondering if > these things have maybe fallen foul of the 1024-week GPS bug? Anyone > know? I guess my next step is to get the comms to it working regardless. I’ve got one working fine thanks to assistance received here! You do need to tell it current date and time over the SCPI interface to sort the 1024- state, but while remaining powered up it should be fine. I added a battery backup to the Oncore board to speed up startup in future after a power down. I found it helpful to get the oncore board functioning on its own first (you simply need a psu and rs232 to ttl adaptor). The winoncore software still worked on win11 (found I think on KO4BB). There are potential tantalum capacitor issues - and they may cause collateral damage. I had to replace one and a transistor which had self-decapped. Alan > > Bob > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com
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Bob Stewart
Thu, Sep 14, 2023 9:07 PM

I had assumed (yeah I know) that this would do an automatic survey, which I think my Z3805A does.  Uh, no.  So, after giving up on my USB RS422 adapter, I used my one real serial port and the "pin hack" to talk to the thing and tell it do a survey.  Things are finally progressing.  I'm still uncertain about the 1024 week bug, though.  During all the things I tried before I finally got comms going, I swapped out the UT+ V2.2 receiver for a UT+ V3.1.  So if there was a 1024 week bug (which I saw on the receiver on my Z3805A when I got it) this would have fixed it - I think.

Bob

----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Bob Stewart via time-nuts time-nuts@lists.febo.comTo: Discussion of Precise Time and Frequency Measurement time-nuts@lists.febo.comCc: Bob Stewart bob@evoria.netSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 06:35:01 PM CDTSubject: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361
Some years ago a bunch of us bought a number of these Lucent KS-24361 unit pairs.  Mine has been in storage till now, and I'm trying to bring it back up using old notes.  So far I'm not getting anywhere and I was wondering if these things have maybe fallen foul of the 1024-week GPS bug?  Anyone know?  I guess my next step is to get the comms to it working regardless.

Bob


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I had assumed (yeah I know) that this would do an automatic survey, which I think my Z3805A does.  Uh, no.  So, after giving up on my USB RS422 adapter, I used my one real serial port and the "pin hack" to talk to the thing and tell it do a survey.  Things are finally progressing.  I'm still uncertain about the 1024 week bug, though.  During all the things I tried before I finally got comms going, I swapped out the UT+ V2.2 receiver for a UT+ V3.1.  So if there was a 1024 week bug (which I saw on the receiver on my Z3805A when I got it) this would have fixed it - I think. Bob ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Bob Stewart via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com>To: Discussion of Precise Time and Frequency Measurement <time-nuts@lists.febo.com>Cc: Bob Stewart <bob@evoria.net>Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 06:35:01 PM CDTSubject: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 Some years ago a bunch of us bought a number of these Lucent KS-24361 unit pairs.  Mine has been in storage till now, and I'm trying to bring it back up using old notes.  So far I'm not getting anywhere and I was wondering if these things have maybe fallen foul of the 1024-week GPS bug?  Anyone know?  I guess my next step is to get the comms to it working regardless. Bob _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com