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nortel trible NTBW50AA boards SCPI command access

MC
Mark C. Stephens
Fri, Sep 13, 2013 12:26 PM

I have a couple of these boards and I have modified one to access the SCPI command port available on the 'Z-Pack' rear connector.
The addition is simple but effective giving the TSIP front panel serial port plus the "cellular" serial port.
Note that you will now have 2 separate connectors for the different control modes.

One obvious use for the SCPI port could be for NTPD.
The NTBW50AA is lacking 1PPS but has a very accurate 2 Hz pulse ideal for NTPD.

Unfortunately the :syst:stat? command is lacking in the firmware.

If anyone in interested in the details I'll prepare a doc and share?

--marki

I have a couple of these boards and I have modified one to access the SCPI command port available on the 'Z-Pack' rear connector. The addition is simple but effective giving the TSIP front panel serial port plus the "cellular" serial port. Note that you will now have 2 separate connectors for the different control modes. One obvious use for the SCPI port could be for NTPD. The NTBW50AA is lacking 1PPS but has a very accurate 2 Hz pulse ideal for NTPD. Unfortunately the :syst:stat? command is lacking in the firmware. If anyone in interested in the details I'll prepare a doc and share? --marki
DL
Don Latham
Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:06 PM

Yes, please, Mark and thanks for the offer. I have one of these but
haven't got to it yet.

Don d'Huson

Mark C. Stephens

I have a couple of these boards and I have modified one to access the
SCPI command port available on the 'Z-Pack' rear connector.
The addition is simple but effective giving the TSIP front panel serial
port plus the "cellular" serial port.
Note that you will now have 2 separate connectors for the different
control modes.

One obvious use for the SCPI port could be for NTPD.
The NTBW50AA is lacking 1PPS but has a very accurate 2 Hz pulse ideal
for NTPD.

Unfortunately the :syst:stat? command is lacking in the firmware.

If anyone in interested in the details I'll prepare a doc and share?

--marki


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Yes, please, Mark and thanks for the offer. I have one of these but haven't got to it yet. Don d'Huson Mark C. Stephens > I have a couple of these boards and I have modified one to access the > SCPI command port available on the 'Z-Pack' rear connector. > The addition is simple but effective giving the TSIP front panel serial > port plus the "cellular" serial port. > Note that you will now have 2 separate connectors for the different > control modes. > > One obvious use for the SCPI port could be for NTPD. > The NTBW50AA is lacking 1PPS but has a very accurate 2 Hz pulse ideal > for NTPD. > > Unfortunately the :syst:stat? command is lacking in the firmware. > > If anyone in interested in the details I'll prepare a doc and share? > > > --marki > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- “The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.” -George Bernard Shaw Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLC 17850 Six Mile Road POB 134 Huson, MT, 59846 VOX 406-626-4304 Skype: buffler2 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com
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EB4APL
Fri, Sep 13, 2013 5:37 PM

Mark,

I'm interested also, my board is a NTGS50AA  but I think they are be
compatible.

Regards,
Ignacio EB4APL

On 13/09/2013 17:06, Don Latham wrote:

Yes, please, Mark and thanks for the offer. I have one of these but
haven't got to it yet.

Don d'Huson

Mark C. Stephens

I have a couple of these boards and I have modified one to access the
SCPI command port available on the 'Z-Pack' rear connector.
The addition is simple but effective giving the TSIP front panel serial
port plus the "cellular" serial port.
Note that you will now have 2 separate connectors for the different
control modes.

One obvious use for the SCPI port could be for NTPD.
The NTBW50AA is lacking 1PPS but has a very accurate 2 Hz pulse ideal
for NTPD.

Unfortunately the :syst:stat? command is lacking in the firmware.

If anyone in interested in the details I'll prepare a doc and share?

--marki

Mark, I'm interested also, my board is a NTGS50AA but I think they are be compatible. Regards, Ignacio EB4APL On 13/09/2013 17:06, Don Latham wrote: > Yes, please, Mark and thanks for the offer. I have one of these but > haven't got to it yet. > > Don d'Huson > > Mark C. Stephens >> I have a couple of these boards and I have modified one to access the >> SCPI command port available on the 'Z-Pack' rear connector. >> The addition is simple but effective giving the TSIP front panel serial >> port plus the "cellular" serial port. >> Note that you will now have 2 separate connectors for the different >> control modes. >> >> One obvious use for the SCPI port could be for NTPD. >> The NTBW50AA is lacking 1PPS but has a very accurate 2 Hz pulse ideal >> for NTPD. >> >> Unfortunately the :syst:stat? command is lacking in the firmware. >> >> If anyone in interested in the details I'll prepare a doc and share? >> >> >> --marki >>
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Iain Young
Fri, Sep 13, 2013 7:12 PM

Hi Mark

On 13/09/13 13:26, Mark C. Stephens wrote:

One obvious use for the SCPI port could be for NTPD.
The NTBW50AA is lacking 1PPS but has a very accurate 2 Hz pulse ideal for NTPD.

2Hz ? I thought it they were a pulse on the even second, thus actually
0.5 Hz ?

I wonder how the PPS Driver in NTP would react to that (either 2Hz, or
0.5Hz pulses). I guess if it really is 2Hz, then one of Tom's PICs
could be used to drop it to 1 Hz

But if it's 0.5 Hz, I wonder if a modification to the ATOM driver
or underlying PPS code would be needed

Or is the 2Hz signal coming off the SCPI port ?

Iain (and yes, like others, I am interested)

Hi Mark On 13/09/13 13:26, Mark C. Stephens wrote: > One obvious use for the SCPI port could be for NTPD. > The NTBW50AA is lacking 1PPS but has a very accurate 2 Hz pulse ideal for NTPD. 2Hz ? I thought it they were a pulse on the even second, thus actually 0.5 Hz ? I wonder how the PPS Driver in NTP would react to that (either 2Hz, or 0.5Hz pulses). I guess if it really is 2Hz, then one of Tom's PICs could be used to drop it to 1 Hz But if it's 0.5 Hz, I wonder if a modification to the ATOM driver or underlying PPS code would be needed Or is the 2Hz signal coming off the SCPI port ? Iain (and yes, like others, I am interested)
MC
Mark C. Stephens
Fri, Sep 13, 2013 9:20 PM

Typo - 0.5Hz, coming out of a 74AC74 driven by PAL.
Split off to front connector and "cellular interface" so there is 2 places to pick of 0.5Hz.

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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] nortel trible NTBW50AA boards SCPI command access

Hi Mark

On 13/09/13 13:26, Mark C. Stephens wrote:

One obvious use for the SCPI port could be for NTPD.
The NTBW50AA is lacking 1PPS but has a very accurate 2 Hz pulse ideal for NTPD.

2Hz ? I thought it they were a pulse on the even second, thus actually
0.5 Hz ?

I wonder how the PPS Driver in NTP would react to that (either 2Hz, or 0.5Hz pulses). I guess if it really is 2Hz, then one of Tom's PICs could be used to drop it to 1 Hz

But if it's 0.5 Hz, I wonder if a modification to the ATOM driver or underlying PPS code would be needed

Or is the 2Hz signal coming off the SCPI port ?

Iain (and yes, like others, I am interested)


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Typo - 0.5Hz, coming out of a 74AC74 driven by PAL. Split off to front connector and "cellular interface" so there is 2 places to pick of 0.5Hz. -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Iain Young Sent: Saturday, 14 September 2013 5:12 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] nortel trible NTBW50AA boards SCPI command access Hi Mark On 13/09/13 13:26, Mark C. Stephens wrote: > One obvious use for the SCPI port could be for NTPD. > The NTBW50AA is lacking 1PPS but has a very accurate 2 Hz pulse ideal for NTPD. 2Hz ? I thought it they were a pulse on the even second, thus actually 0.5 Hz ? I wonder how the PPS Driver in NTP would react to that (either 2Hz, or 0.5Hz pulses). I guess if it really is 2Hz, then one of Tom's PICs could be used to drop it to 1 Hz But if it's 0.5 Hz, I wonder if a modification to the ATOM driver or underlying PPS code would be needed Or is the 2Hz signal coming off the SCPI port ? Iain (and yes, like others, I am interested) _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Bob Camp
Fri, Sep 13, 2013 9:55 PM

Hi

Some of the similar boards have lots of 0.5 Hz coming out on differential pairs. I suspect that the easy approach for NTP would be to hack the driver.

Bob

On Sep 13, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Mark C. Stephens marks@non-stop.com.au wrote:

Typo - 0.5Hz, coming out of a 74AC74 driven by PAL.
Split off to front connector and "cellular interface" so there is 2 places to pick of 0.5Hz.

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Iain Young
Sent: Saturday, 14 September 2013 5:12 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] nortel trible NTBW50AA boards SCPI command access

Hi Mark

On 13/09/13 13:26, Mark C. Stephens wrote:

One obvious use for the SCPI port could be for NTPD.
The NTBW50AA is lacking 1PPS but has a very accurate 2 Hz pulse ideal for NTPD.

2Hz ? I thought it they were a pulse on the even second, thus actually
0.5 Hz ?

I wonder how the PPS Driver in NTP would react to that (either 2Hz, or 0.5Hz pulses). I guess if it really is 2Hz, then one of Tom's PICs could be used to drop it to 1 Hz

But if it's 0.5 Hz, I wonder if a modification to the ATOM driver or underlying PPS code would be needed

Or is the 2Hz signal coming off the SCPI port ?

Iain (and yes, like others, I am interested)


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Hi Some of the similar boards have *lots* of 0.5 Hz coming out on differential pairs. I suspect that the easy approach for NTP would be to hack the driver. Bob On Sep 13, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Mark C. Stephens <marks@non-stop.com.au> wrote: > Typo - 0.5Hz, coming out of a 74AC74 driven by PAL. > Split off to front connector and "cellular interface" so there is 2 places to pick of 0.5Hz. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Iain Young > Sent: Saturday, 14 September 2013 5:12 AM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] nortel trible NTBW50AA boards SCPI command access > > Hi Mark > > On 13/09/13 13:26, Mark C. Stephens wrote: > >> One obvious use for the SCPI port could be for NTPD. >> The NTBW50AA is lacking 1PPS but has a very accurate 2 Hz pulse ideal for NTPD. > > 2Hz ? I thought it they were a pulse on the even second, thus actually > 0.5 Hz ? > > I wonder how the PPS Driver in NTP would react to that (either 2Hz, or 0.5Hz pulses). I guess if it really is 2Hz, then one of Tom's PICs could be used to drop it to 1 Hz > > But if it's 0.5 Hz, I wonder if a modification to the ATOM driver or underlying PPS code would be needed > > Or is the 2Hz signal coming off the SCPI port ? > > > Iain (and yes, like others, I am interested) > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.