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Ken Ongemach
Wed, Feb 13, 2008 4:36 PM

Forget about the pump!  What causes backfilling of the tank, thru the pump,
is the fact that most people forget to add a vertical loop in the hose between
the thru hull & the pump, which goes above the waterline.. Just make this loop
& the backfilling will stop....Ken, Tampa, FL

Forget about the pump! What causes backfilling of the tank, thru the pump, is the fact that most people forget to add a vertical loop in the hose between the thru hull & the pump, which goes above the waterline.. Just make this loop & the backfilling will stop....Ken, Tampa, FL
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Pascal Gademer
Wed, Feb 13, 2008 4:50 PM

Personally, if i was to install a new tank or do any kind of work to my
existing install, I woudl move the discharge above the water line.

My previous two boats  had above WL macerator discharge and it's fine.
Since you don't discharge inland, chances are the seas are a choppy enough
offshore to quickly rinse any brown stain under the above WL TH.

so why bother with below WL discharge, sea cock, vented loop and all ?  I
like the KISS method...

pascal
Miami, fl
70 hatteras 53MY
live helmcam @ www.sandbarhopper.com

Personally, if i was to install a new tank or do any kind of work to my existing install, I woudl move the discharge above the water line. My previous two boats had above WL macerator discharge and it's fine. Since you don't discharge inland, chances are the seas are a choppy enough offshore to quickly rinse any brown stain under the above WL TH. so why bother with below WL discharge, sea cock, vented loop and all ? I like the KISS method... pascal Miami, fl 70 hatteras 53MY live helmcam @ www.sandbarhopper.com
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Scott H.E. Welch
Wed, Feb 13, 2008 6:27 PM

"Ken Ongemach" kongemac@tampabay.rr.com writes:

Forget about the pump!  What causes backfilling of the tank, thru the pump,
is the fact that most people forget to add a vertical loop in the hose
betwee n
the thru hull & the pump, which goes above the waterline.. Just make this
loo p
& the backfilling will stop

Actually, Ken, this won't help. Even if the loop is above the waterline,
water can still siphon back in. While it might not happen every time, it can
easily start siphoning. If you have a non-positive displacement pump (e.g. a
macerator) then the only safe thing to do is to close the through-hull
immediately after pumping.

Again, this is a good discussion, and it points to good reasons to move to a
positive displacement pump such as the Sealand. For what it's worth, I have
two holding tanks on Island Eagle, one with a Sealand and one with a
macerator. The Sealand has been flawless in 5 years. The macerator has failed
once and clogged once. Plus, I have to manually open and close the through
hull when I use the macerator. Next time it fails I will be replacing it with
a Sealand.

By the way, one other note, I also replaced both of the switches for the
pumps with 15 minute mechanical timer switches. They work like a charm.

Scott Welch
FirstClass Product Manager
www.firstclass.com

Those who make no mistakes rarely make anything.

"Ken Ongemach" <kongemac@tampabay.rr.com> writes: >Forget about the pump! What causes backfilling of the tank, thru the pump, >is the fact that most people forget to add a vertical loop in the hose >betwee n >the thru hull & the pump, which goes above the waterline.. Just make this >loo p >& the backfilling will stop Actually, Ken, this won't help. Even if the loop is above the waterline, water can still siphon back in. While it might not happen every time, it can easily start siphoning. If you have a non-positive displacement pump (e.g. a macerator) then the only safe thing to do is to close the through-hull immediately after pumping. Again, this is a good discussion, and it points to good reasons to move to a positive displacement pump such as the Sealand. For what it's worth, I have two holding tanks on Island Eagle, one with a Sealand and one with a macerator. The Sealand has been flawless in 5 years. The macerator has failed once and clogged once. Plus, I have to manually open and close the through hull when I use the macerator. Next time it fails I will be replacing it with a Sealand. By the way, one other note, I also replaced both of the switches for the pumps with 15 minute mechanical timer switches. They work like a charm. Scott Welch FirstClass Product Manager www.firstclass.com Those who make no mistakes rarely make anything.